Round 1 Pool 4: DeadManWonderLand vs. Tazzilla88

  1. Floydical
    Kimimaro vs. Kisame (created by Uzumaki16)

    DeadManWonderLand: Kimimaro

    Tazzilla88: Kisame

    Restrictions: Kisame has Samehada but cannot utilize his giant mobile water dome technique.

    Knowledge: Kimimaro knows about Samehada's ability to absorb chakra and Kisame has no knowledge of Kimimaro's KG.

    Starting Distance: 50 metres

    Location: Where Lee and Gaara fought Kimimaro

    Intent: Kill

    To clarify some things from my postings, you are limited to 15 post total that will be counted for scoring. From your 16th post on, you will not get credit for anything you stated. Keep all responses to a maximum of 20 lines, if you notice your response is more than that after posting it, please edit it as soon as you notice. If you have any posts at the end of the debate with more than 20 lines, you will get a DQ. This obviously does not count images you post or links you post to show evidence from the manga, only your lines of text. If you apply titles of some sort to clarify sections of your post this will not be counted either, again, only lines of text count. If you have any specific questions about the match, message me or Uzumaki and we will clarify it in this thread. Again, do not post in this thread until you are posting an argument, any and all posts you make count toward the 15 total.

    Either one of you can post first. Begin!
  2. DeadManWonderLand

    Kimimaro's abilities made him well suited for close-range combat fighting,demonstrating tremendous taijutsu skills combined with equally impressive speed, agility, and dexterity which he heavily relied on for his taihenjustu which is a system of movement and positioning that allows the user to adapt to his or her environment through a series of postures and skills primarily relying on dexterity, coordination, agility, and bone alignment. Taihenjutsu translates roughly to "Body changing skill," Taihenjutsu typically depends on skills that require the user to have a fair degree of spatial awareness as well as Kinetic awareness due to the constant movement and placement via pinpointed pre-cognition based on muscle memory. Because of this, highly developed taihenjutsu specialists typically develop a high degree of awareness in their environment and bodies which allows them to escape injury from strikes, throws, pins.Combined with his Shikotsumyaku that lets him manipulate his own skeletal structure would make getting a direct physical hit on kimmimaro almost virtually impossible.Even if by some chance kimmimaro was ubable to defend himself and unable to posistion himself correctly he can protect his body by have his bones portrude from his body which would force kisame to fight from at least mid range.The fluidity of his moves and kekegenkai allows him to be on a constant offensive and defensive posistion.Kisame would need to have space between them to begin interweving hand signs to perform some of his more intricate water ninjustu.Point being kisame would be at a huge disadvantage if the space between them was at a minimum.
  3. DeadManWonderLand
    Defense against Water Ninjustu

    Kimmimaro bares the Cursed Seal of Earth, which is said to be equal in power to the Cursed Seal of Heaven, and both Seals are said to be the strongest amongst the ones used by Orochimaru.Furthermore, after entering his Level 2 state: Kimimaro becomes much slower,but his skin is also thicker and harder, making it impossible for even Gaara's sand to penetrate it.This extra layer of defense gives kimmimaro a much needed armor of sorts against water oriented justu that kisame has that use condensed pressure to damage his enemies.This would make smaller compacted water based attacks ineffective.
  4. DeadManWonderLand
    Defesnse against large pools of water.

    Kimmimaro can make countless bones rise from underground,the blades of bone indiscriminately slaughter whoever stands on the ground's surface. Furthermore, if this fails to bring down his foe, Kimimaro can become one with the bones, which in turn can allow him to attack an enemy unnoticed.This ability to become one with the bones can provide shelter for him underground as he turns the earth itself into a death trap ,he can use this as a underground passage way to hide from a oncoming assault of high pressured water and use the bone spines to churn the earth opening it up and eventually swallowing most of kisames attack.Since this is one of kimmimaros only actual ninjustu (4 out of 5 of his dances are taijustu based) and relies very little on actual chakra.This would almost render kisames strongest technique in this particular match useless much as it was when facing Might guy.Kimimaro receives increased chakra levels and physical capabilities when his seal is active.This would further expand his ground and give him the option of leveling and absorbing a larger volume of water flood based attacks.Keep in mind kisame has no body of water to boost his attacks which hinder the proximity of his attacks making it much more likely for kimmimaro to dodge and have the earth absorb them.

    Whatever kisames plan is it would be crucial for every attack that succesfully lands on kimmimaro to be effective while maintaining a good distance,this will prove extremely difficult as kimmimaro is fast.with kisame trying to keep his distance while at the same time using water to attack it would provide kimmimaro ample time to see,dodge and act accordingly to his attacks.Since kisames justu are mainly water based there is not much he can do to mask his attacks which for the most part are plainly visible to the eye.
  5. kakashi owns all
    kakashi owns all
    DeadManWonderLand gets my vote by default
  6. Tazzilla88
    I was actually wondering if I could get an extension,I got assigned 6 essays all due this week. I finish up finals and essays tomorrow.
  7. Floydical
    I messaged DeadManWonderLand about it and he is okay with granting this very late extension. For now I am granting a 4 day extension on this because I want to be done with the first part of this round ASAP.
  8. Floydical
    This match will be closed tomorrow at 5:00pm eastern if no one else posts.
  9. Tazzilla88
    So I think you've underestimate Kisame a great deal in this battle. While it is true that Kimmimaro's specialty is taijutsu Kisame has proven that he himself is no slough when it comes to taijutsu. He's also evidenced that he is incredibly strong having broken the earth with a one handed swing of samahada. But what is very special about Kisame is his ability to quickly perform jutsus between taijutsu bouts. So I would argue that while Kimimmaro is a taijutsu fighter, it is more dangerous for him to get close to Kisame. What is even more dangerous for Kimmimaro though is the fact that Kisame can create his own water source in the time in takes his sword to descend down from a throw. This used in combination with one of Kisame's dangerous water based attacks can leave Kimmimaro in shreds, or devoid of chakra.
  10. Tazzilla88
    Given Kisame's thoughts we can gather that he has rather durable skin, which is a problem for Kimmimaro because his style of fighting necessitates he stab or slice his opponent to death. We've also managed to see Samahada completely tank an attack from Bee's raiton charged Hyper Vibrato why is that relevant. As we've seen demonstrated using raiton as an aid to pierce objects is destructive witnessed through Raikiri, Chidori, and Hell Stab, beyond that Kisame said that Bee's raiton penetration power is greater than the penetration power of wind, which as we know is great enough to pierce completely through a tree and a rock with limited chakra use, my point being that it is doubtful that Kimmimaro would be able to penetrate Samahada. I know you will say that Samahada drained the raiton chakra out of Bee's blade and that is true, however, Samahada only drains through direct contact which means the blade had alreadu made contact before Samhada drained the chakra and therefore the feat still stands.
    Now, as previously mentioned Kisame has the ability to create his own water source, he also has the ability to fuse with Samahada. Because Kimimaro is a taijutsu specialist he will most likely resort in having to engage in CQC at which point Kisame could knock him underwater and fuse with Samahada. And because Kimimmaro will most likely try to engage in CQC Kisame will have no reason to need the Water dome.
    You've mentioned an interesting ability of Kimmimaro, namely the Dance of the Seedling Fern. I will point out a few problems though with this technique. Firstly Kimimaro has no means of getting underground as no one is burying him underground here. Second because Kisame can alter the terrain and most likely will do so in order for the enviroment to suit him that puts Kimimaro at a particular disadvantage in terms of using Dance of the Seedling Fern. In addition Kisame still has rather good reaction times. And when fused with Samahada, Kisame can sense an opponents chakra which is going to drastically lower the chances of Kimamaro launching a surprise sneak attack on Kisame.
    Now you mention the toughness of Kimimaro's body after he's transformed but it would appear that Kimimaro really can't afford to lose his speed as given Kisame's stength and his own statements he can cut clear through bone.
    What I am confused to though is your churning the Earth argument. We've seen that when faced with an opponent Kimimaro seemingly waits for them to attack or to prepare an attack unless he's enraged. He did so against Naruto, Lee, and at times Gaara. So the idea that Kisame would just wait and watch him slowly open the earth in order to act as a drain seems confusing. Why would Kisame allow Kimimaro to take this action?
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