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    Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask? He was INCREDIBLY fast with it and had great physical strength, so could he be on par with gin or higher? (im talking about this form)



    And why didn't he use it against kenpachi? or did he not have it then?
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    i think tougher than gin but they never really say or show what gin can do all out either
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    logically he should be

    but we didn't see much gin tho
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Gin wasn't shown that much but from like I've seen stronger
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Spoilers: I dont think Gin let himself be a experiment for Aizen seeing as he hated him, and hollowfication does make a shinigami much stronger, therefore he must have been.
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Gin is by far stronger his bankai's ability was fearsome. Especially the part he never talked about being the nano's.
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Quote Originally Posted by JirayiaRIPforever View Post
    Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask? He was INCREDIBLY fast with it and had great physical strength, so could he be on par with gin or higher? (im talking about this form)



    And why didn't he use it against kenpachi? or did he not have it then?
    If he had it back then, Aizen's plans would have been revealed much too early don't you think...?
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Maybe. Not sure, I still think Gin is better
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Quote Originally Posted by JirayiaRIPforever View Post
    Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask? He was INCREDIBLY fast with it and had great physical strength, so could he be on par with gin or higher? (im talking about this form)



    And why didn't he use it against kenpachi? or did he not have it then?
    Tousen with the Mask is leagues stronger than Gin.
    Gin is much stronger naturally though. Without Tousen's Mask he wouldn't match Gin.

    Tousen didn't have the mask against Kenpachi. Even if he did it's obvious he wouldn't have used it because of the plot. Arrancar/Vizards weren't introduced back then. He wouldn't have used it period.



    Tousen was nothing to Aizen. He was a lab rat which is probably why he gave him Hollow powers. Tousen was blinded by his so-called "justice" and followed Aizen like a puppy. Aizen had no reason to ever trust Tousen who isn't at the mercy of his Kyoka Suigetsu.

    The only one Aizen even remotely trusted/favored was Gin. Even when he suspected Gin had his own agenda he still led him around
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Gin is the BEST
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Gin > Tousen

    No matter what kind of power-up you throw on him, Tousen will always be inferior to Gin. For one simple reason (which some of you have already mentioned): Gin did not allow Aizen to make him into a hybrid arrancar, Gin has pride, while Tousen was simply an idiot who abandoned all of his ideals in the end just to be able to see again and grow a bit more powerful. Remember that Gin was the one who back-stabbed Aizen, because he knew the situation was getting out of hand.
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Quote Originally Posted by VinceD View Post
    Gin > Tousen

    No matter what kind of power-up you throw on him, Tousen will always be inferior to Gin. For one simple reason (which some of you have already mentioned): Gin did not allow Aizen to make him into a hybrid arrancar, Gin has pride, while Tousen was simply an idiot who abandoned all of his ideals in the end just to be able to see again and grow a bit more powerful. Remember that Gin was the one who back-stabbed Aizen, because he knew the situation was getting out of hand.
    I've got to disagree with you. With the mask, I believe Tousen would overpower Gin. Tousen was able to overpower Komamura's Bankai. Someone who is known for his brute strength. Gin is more of an agile and speedy fighter, but it's also a fact that along with Hollowification comes a boost in nearly all other attributes (strength, speed, agility, etc) which stands to reason it's plausible that Tousen would be able to keep up with Gin's speed (if not outspeed him even)

    Without the mask, however, Gin would demolish Tousen. That much is clear
     
         
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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Gin is better.
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Gin is the best!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    I think gn might still be better
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    I've got to disagree with you. With the mask, I believe Tousen would overpower Gin. Tousen was able to overpower Komamura's Bankai. Someone who is known for his brute strength. Gin is more of an agile and speedy fighter, but it's also a fact that along with Hollowification comes a boost in nearly all other attributes (strength, speed, agility, etc) which stands to reason it's plausible that Tousen would be able to keep up with Gin's speed (if not outspeed him even)

    Without the mask, however, Gin would demolish Tousen. That much is clear

    I'm not too sure. Brute force isn't the only thing that makes someone a good fighter. Even though Tousen's hollowifcation did increase his destructive capability, it lessened his awareness which led to him being killed by Hisagi. That aspect of him kept him from being as strong as someone like Gin.

    As for Tousen just using the mask rather than the ressurrecion, lets not forget Gin was able to toy with Ichigo even with Ichigo using his mask; I don't think Tousen with his mask was as strong at that point.

    And lets be honest, had it been Gin against Komamura it would have been over in seconds. There's no way Komamura's bankai would be capable of dodging Gin's attacks due to its size, and we know that with one attack Gin could leave a speck of dust in Komamura's bankai and it would have been over.
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Tosen using the mask could probably give gin a run for his money. With out it, he would be hard pressed, unless you caught Gin in his Bankai.

    Of course, that's assuming that Gin got caught or Tosen would be able to dodge Gin's bankai (though I think that is entirely probable. Tosen could dodge most things with out his mask.)
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    i think Gin>Tousen.

    but why does tousen have a resurrection anyway though? he became a visard but only arrancar have resurrections.
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    I think he was better with Just his mask but Gin is the best! hehe
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    personally i think gin is stronger than tousen even if tousen went full hollow mode
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Gin would still win mid to high diff.
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    i'm gonna say that Tousen and here let me explain in 2 words:

    OVERPOWERED BANKAI

    now to explain more :

    Tousen's Bankai is OP, that OP actually that Kubo made him use it only once
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Gin is better
     
         

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    Re: Is Kaname tousen equal to Gin or stronger with hollow mask?

    Why are people saying Gin is better when we have no evidence? Tousen is obviously better from what we've seen. ****ty Bankai Ichigo doesn't compare to Tousen so don't use that argument.
     
         

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