now we know for sure resengan> kirnin (spelling)

[TOBI!]

yes becuase when kakashi was battleing pein, pein used the bean pein to
block kakashi's kirin, and the body wasn't so badly injured and already damaged

then naruto used resengan on the same body (at full power) and destroed it completly

[Garfield157]

yes becuase when kakashi was battleing pein, pein used the bean pein to
block kakashi's kirin, and the body wasn't so badly injured and already damaged

then naruto used resengan on the same body (at full power) and destroed it completly

Maybe the kirin (whatever the hell that is) weakened him? *shrugs*

I doubt it, but it could still be a possibility...

(bean pein? What?)

[TOBI!]

Maybe the kirin (whatever the hell that is) weakened him? *shrugs*

I doubt it, but it could still be a possibility...

(bean pein? What?)

what the japanese call the pein with many arms and stuff

[RokuNR]

Kakashi used Lightning Wolf, not Kirin.

[Garfield157]

Oh, sorry. I didn't know. ._.

It think rasengan (the wind one) would be stronger than kirin.

EDIT: @Roku: Oh, so I hadn't missed something. Good. *sweatdrop* Yeah, that didn't really do much to Pein.

[TOBI!]

Oh, sorry. I didn't know. ._.

It think rasengan (the wind one) would be stronger than kirin.

EDIT: @Roku: Oh, so I hadn't missed something. Good. *sweatdrop* Yeah, that didn't really do much to Pein.

well im just talking about basic resengan

[Garfield157]

well im just talking about basic resengan

Then I wouldn't be so sure... Hm. Yeah. Who knows?

I'd google it but I'm about to leave anyway. Byes.

[KenshinXXX]

naruto was in sage mode no ?

[Gatsndshanks]

Maybe the pain body was already weakened?

[TOBI!]

Maybe the pain body was already weakened?

maybe but it was still stronger than when i blocked kirin O.o

[twistedlink]

Kirin isnt based on chakra supply or manipulation.

Kirin takes lightning from the sky itself and its power is NOT limited by a persons chakra, in other words its power is based off how powerful the surge he makes is.

This technique has no real limit as there is not a very near limit to the ampage or voltage of electricity, its a VERY big number, however naruto is limited in RS from his chakra capacity, however wind beats lightning so...

Its the whole valley of the end rasengan vs chidori, only now its FRS vs kirin.

[UzumakiJake]

yes becuase when kakashi was battleing pein, pein used the bean pein to
block kakashi's kirin, and the body wasn't so badly injured and already damaged

then naruto used resengan on the same body (at full power) and destroed it completly

really?? i thought naruto just punched him.... this is news to me. thx man.


But like naruto is way stronger then kakashi. Resengan makes Chidori look like a childs toy remember j-man said that

[Ace]

For one, Naruto's in his prime time. He's a sage, knows a forbidden technique, and Rasengan in my Opinionis way stronger than Lighting blade.

Look

Naruto's tank



Sasuke's tank

[Izuna Uchiha]

yes becuase when kakashi was battleing pein, pein used the bean pein to
block kakashi's kirin, and the body wasn't so badly injured and already damaged

then naruto used resengan on the same body (at full power) and destroed it completly

true, nice obs, but we still don't know if this body is COMPLETLY dead...

U deserve a cookie for this here you go!

*trow a cookie at Tobi*

[squiremarcus]

Kirin isnt based on chakra supply or manipulation.

Kirin takes lightning from the sky itself and its power is NOT limited by a persons chakra, in other words its power is based off how powerful the surge he makes is.

This technique has no real limit as there is not a very near limit to the ampage or voltage of electricity, its a VERY big number, however naruto is limited in RS from his chakra capacity, however wind beats lightning so...

Its the whole valley of the end rasengan vs chidori, only now its FRS vs kirin.

Of couse If sasuke chooses to use his chakra to make kirin he can do it either way

[Skye Kaguya]

i think he mans rasengan is better than Raikiri...
not Kirin...

[meercy]

i think he mans rasengan is better than Raikiri...
not Kirin...

the same thing i was bout to say....lol....

But im not gone say eithier is stronger...i think they a stalemate.....
Sasuke Vs. Naruto @ the valley of end....0-0...

[Izuna Uchiha]

the same thing i was bout to say....lol....

But im not gone say eithier is stronger...i think they a stalemate.....
Sasuke Vs. Naruto @ the valley of end....0-0...

I think that sasuke won't be able to use his kirin, naruto could use his RS to make the could go away.

[meercy]

I think that sasuke won't be able to use his kirin, naruto could use his RS to make the could go away.

as far as karin... its a strong move and i believe he made that move on his on....
he just showed it to oro or he jus popped out of the ground like a snake and seen it....

it is a strong move but it wont compare to naruto RS....
But when talkin rasengan and chidori....I think they are a stalemate...

[BishamonSama]

Let's look at it like this:

Kakashi himself said that pure chakra attacks are much stronger when they have both shape recomposition and elemental recomposition.

Chidori is lightning chakra in the shape of a sword. It's got both shape and elemental recomposition.

Rasengan is a ball of raw chakra. It's got just shape recomposition.

Rasengan is stronger than Chidori, even though it doesn't have elemental recomposition.


And Kirin is just raw lightning. It's not particularly strong, it's just virtually unavoidable. All of these attacks (Chidori, Rasengan, Kirin) could kill you on one hit.

In that sense, Kirin's not much stronger, in plain old power, than Chidori. While I wouldn't go so far to say that a plain old rasengan could stop Kirin, I would say that a Kuuton: Rasengan would. And if that's true, a Fuuton: Rasenshuriken would definitely stop Kirin.

[Emperor]

Kuuton?
lol, ok you mean Fuuton.
True, but Naruto would have to make the RS before the Kirin comes at him

[Cash]

Let's look at it like this:

Kakashi himself said that pure chakra attacks are much stronger when they have both shape recomposition and elemental recomposition.

Chidori is lightning chakra in the shape of a sword. It's got both shape and elemental recomposition.

Rasengan is a ball of raw chakra. It's got just shape recomposition.

Rasengan is stronger than Chidori, even though it doesn't have elemental recomposition.


And Kirin is just raw lightning. It's not particularly strong, it's just virtually unavoidable. All of these attacks (Chidori, Rasengan, Kirin) could kill you on one hit.

In that sense, Kirin's not much stronger, in plain old power, than Chidori. While I wouldn't go so far to say that a plain old rasengan could stop Kirin, I would say that a Kuuton: Rasengan would. And if that's true, a Fuuton: Rasenshuriken would definitely stop Kirin.

You definitely got it right... chidori is the combination of shape and nature... what would chidori look like if the same shape manipulation was used with fire or wind? Its just a completely different use of form manipulation that rasengan...
Rasengan is the ultimate form of shape manipulation... any nature manipulation to that... makes the technique the ultimate chakra technique for that element... period...