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    Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    The title says it all.












    Look at the Manga page below... specifically referring to the Treasured Tools of the Sage of the Six Paths that Tobi has in his possession:













    Karuma (who lived with the Sage himself) says:

    "They have the power to strongly seal away anything. WHATEVER GOES IN CAN NEVER COME OUT, NO MATTER WHAT..."






    ...does anyone see where I'm going with this...? How in the world is Tobi able to utilize the beings inside of a "sealed" container, unless it is able to reverse the effects of the sealing technique...? And does this apply to all sealing techniques? If not, why???


    Last note. When the Raikages had the Purifying Pot, after temporarily sealing the 8 Tails they were always able to eventually "unleash" the 8 Tails when it was time to try and turn it into a Jinchurriki again. How is this possible if Kishi originally implies that anything sealed can never be unsealed?











    Your theories please.
     
         
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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    <.< maybe Kishi forgot
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Jesus christ people. It's just a saying. Stop taking every single sentence literally. Amaterasu is not as hot as the sun and clearly you can unseal things from it. Just let it go.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    And maybe the translation is wrong..?
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    Jesus christ people. It's just a saying. Stop taking every single sentence literally. Amaterasu is not as hot as the sun and clearly you can unseal things from it. Just let it go.
    +rep dude I'm glad someone said it. I find that many people on NB take the dialogs fr the characters waaaay to literally sometimes
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    I think he meant they can never come out on their own.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Good point with the eight tails.. ive been waiting for a loophole to sealing jutsu bring back yondaime hokage minato in jinchuuriki form haha hell smash out tobi before anyone realizes he was revived
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    probably forgetfullness which i doubt, or maybe he didn't mean it literally or it could be a translation error
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kage Phoenix View Post
    <.< maybe Kishi forgot
    Off topic I know, but Ash would never go for Dawn over Misty!

    On topic, I kinda hope so, would be EPIC to see all the hokages in action
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    i think he meant nothing can break out of the seal but it can be unsealed by someone on the outside
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    trollage no jutsu
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    Jesus christ people. It's just a saying. Stop taking every single sentence literally. Amaterasu is not as hot as the sun and clearly you can unseal things from it. Just let it go.



    Clearly?!? Seriously you say "CLEARLY"?!?



    Clearly... if you EVER were to make a thread about the Hokages being used in the war, YOU WOULD GET FLAMED TO DEATH. Why? Because everyone on this site agreed that those people sealed could NEVER be unsealed, hence no one being able to bring them back to life via Edo. This was never assumed, that any soul "sealed" could be unsealed at any moment. So yes, me and everyone else on this site LITERALLY ASSUMED you could not be unsealed from this type of jutsu. #ImJustSayin
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MilwaukeegHost View Post
    Karuma (who lived with the Sage himself) says:

    "They have the power to strongly seal away anything. WHATEVER GOES IN CAN NEVER COME OUT, NO MATTER WHAT..."

    ...does anyone see where I'm going with this...? How in the world is Tobi able to utilize the beings inside of a "sealed" container, unless it is able to reverse the effects of the sealing technique...? And does this apply to all sealing techniques? If not, why???

    Last note. When the Raikages had the Purifying Pot, after temporarily sealing the 8 Tails they were always able to eventually "unleash" the 8 Tails when it was time to try and turn it into a Jinchurriki again. How is this possible if Kishi originally implies that anything sealed can never be unsealed?
    Excellent questions.

    My guess is that they were not sealed, just contained, so they can't escape - that's why the pot is always shown with chains around it. Alternatively it's possible that they were sealed, but the seal did not have the power of the So6P.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Memoria View Post
    I think he meant they can never come out on their own.
    i agree with you. if someone been seal into those things they cant released them self only a skillful user who knows about the pot and bottle purposes can undo the damage its just as simply as that. you people are taking everything word for word now(serious). what had surprise me was that the RIKAGE or his teleportation technique girl (the secretary) said that the pot is differ from the bottle if someone speaks it records their voice immediately and seals them instantly why did TOBI or so called MADARA UCHIHA went the long way he could of just seal everyone right their and then, but I'm wondering either kishi trolled him or madara just doesn't know about that purpose/use of the pot of truth.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    So 1st Hokage can come back?
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Maybe because he ate the whole container he consumed it all. Imagine it being like digestion the container probably got destroyed and he harvested the chakra. :shrug: IDK your guess is as good as mine at this point.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Remember we are talking about a pot and a bottle. Mabye Tobi just took the lids off.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    whats so hard to understand?


    tobi actually has the items so therefore if have the items themselve u can control what they seal.


    The fox was talking about getting the souls in general matter like trying to reivive them or summon them or what ever.

    But if u actually have the items themselves u have control of what gets sealed into it so therefore u have control what goes out as well.


    why do u think tobi went out of his way to get these items?
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    pretty sure they say it in the manga..

    the only sealing jutsu that seals the user AND it's target *forever* and cannot be undone is the... cant remember the name.. demon god jutsu or whatever. the one minato used on the fox.

    3rd used that on the 1st and 2nd. they cant come back. same for 4th. besides tsunade all the other hokages are in that seal. so they will never come back.

    i cant say ive read about being able to undo other seals, but now it's looking like you can. dunno why everyone is getting so worked up about it, i sort of expected it lol
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Just open the pot lid = and say release = Unsealing.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Hokages aren't in a chained container. The seal the fourth used, sealed them in death reaper's belly.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    ...wasn't it Kabuto who started the Edo Tensei? It would have been him that unsealed Gin and Kin, surely xD
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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuchi View Post
    Hokages aren't in a chained container. The seal the fourth used, sealed them in death reaper's belly.


    I think , that Death Reaper = is about same as sending some on to hell or something.


    Remember the hell in DBZ?

    When Picolo and Kami synchronized their energies and created a vortex to free Goku from Hell.

    Maybe Kishi will free some of the Hokages this way?

    Since The Hokages are not dead.

    Their soul is kept there for eternity.


    But currently it would be rational to think , that shiki fujin is irreversable = Until Kishi says otherwise.


    Opinions?
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    Jesus christ people. It's just a saying. Stop taking every single sentence literally. Amaterasu is not as hot as the sun and clearly you can unseal things from it. Just let it go.
    *gasp !* oh ! boy .... when ppl are reading Naruto ... they take every WORD as universal truth
    jus let it go dude !
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    he consumed the pot = he ate everything that was in the pot 2
    or its an translation error and it means "someone that is trapped in the pot could never come out by himself"
     
         

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