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      Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      When the fourth mizukage was controlled, zabuza was still in ninja academy because during that time the mist village was called the blood mist village because of the fourth mizukage's actions while he was controlled. But the thing is, according to naruto databooks, zabuza and obito are of the same age.

      When the series began Zabuza was 26, the same age as Kakashi who was also the same age was Obito, but when Zabuza was in the ninja academy and killed all of his classmates he was 9 years old. So that should mean by that time Obito should have been nine years old, but he died when he was 13 years old so he couldn't have controlled the mizukage.

      So yeah something's kinda screwed up in the timeline. So maybe it was Madara who controlled the Mizukage because I read a theory in this site I think yesterday saying he may have controlled him by using a zetsu through the use of the tubes in his back or something like that.
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      yes he did and with that hair style im not surprised he fooled kisame
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Kakashi is much younger than rin and obito.
      Making obito older than zabuza.
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      It was never confirmed that Yagura, the Fourth Mizukage, actually started all that Blood Mist Village thing. It could have been the Kage before him.

      Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
      Kakashi is much younger than rin and obito.
      Making obito older than zabuza.
      No, they are all the same age! :y :D
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      but again when kisame looked at him a second time he was like oh its you and that was when obito had short hair soo im thinking kisame knew it wasnt madara all along who knows
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Seems like it however there could be a new revelation. Its deffo not his kamui eye. That means its one of those sharingans he implanted that gave him this ability. The sharingan itself has a hypnosis genjutsu that allows the user to control the enemy however, that genjutsu i have a hard time believing could control somebody like yagura. It must be an ms genjutsu similar on scale of KA otherwise kishi is trolling yagura or has put the basic sharingan on an even higher pedestal
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post
      It was never confirmed that Yagura, the Fourth Mizukage, actually started all that Blood Mist Village thing. It could have been the Kage before him.



      No, they are all the same age! :y :D
      Kakashi, ninja academy grad. age: 5.
      Obito:9
      Rin:9

      Kakashi is 4 years younger than the other 2.
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
      Kakashi is much younger than rin and obito.
      Making obito older than zabuza.
      Please stop spread false information.
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
      Seems like it however there could be a new revelation. Its deffo not his kamui eye. That means its one of those sharingans he implanted that gave him this ability. The sharingan itself has a hypnosis genjutsu that allows the user to control the enemy however, that genjutsu i have a hard time believing could control somebody like yagura. It must be an ms genjutsu similar on scale of KA otherwise kishi is trolling yagura or has put the basic sharingan on an even higher pedestal
      MS allows the power to control kurama, hashi his dna can as well, obito has both, why wouldnt he be able to pull it off vs 3tails and host?
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by ItachiLeeHatake View Post
      Please stop spread false information.
      Read the post above your own.
      Its not false info.
      Kakashi is truly younger.
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
      Kakashi, ninja academy grad. age: 5.
      Obito:9
      Rin:9

      Kakashi is 4 years younger than the other 2.
      I knew that you were going to say that!

      Kakashi only graduated before them, that's all. :shrug:
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Naruto failed is graduation exam 3 times and he's the same age as sasuke so does that make Naruto 3 years older than sasuke? NOOO
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      I need someone to show me a scan saying Yagura was being controlled during the bloody mist era because honestly I don't remember anyone saying that.
      The time we actually saw Tobi controlling the Mizukage (and meeting Kisame) happened after the Kyuubi attack though.
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post
      I knew that you were going to say that!

      Kakashi only graduated before them, that's all. :shrug:
      Exactly, man. Like how it took Naruto a longer time to graduate from the academy than the rest of his class, but they're all still very close in age.
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by bladechronicles94 View Post
      Naruto failed is graduation exam 3 times and he's the same age as sasuke so does that make Naruto 3 years older than sasuke? NOOO
      If you fail, doesnt have to mean you have to do the whole year again. It could mean you just have to do the exam again like a month later (re-exam) like happens irl as well.

      Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post
      I knew that you were going to say that!

      Kakashi only graduated before them, that's all. :shrug:
      Kakashi did the whole academy in a year and graduated at age 5.
      In that follow up year, he became chunin and he took that exam with rin and obito (who were 9).
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      I think this is right... but please prove it with manga fact... im pretty sure its correct tho.
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
      Kakashi did the whole academy in a year and graduated at age 5.
      In that follow up year, he became chunin and he took that exam with rin and obito (who were 9).
      How do you know it was the following year?! O_o

      Cuz it's not! Kakashi must have waited for others to graduate (it doesn't matter if they were or were not Obito or Rin) for him to take the Chunin Exam, cuz to enter it you need a team.

      Kakashi Only Graduated Before Them!
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by bladechronicles94 View Post
      Naruto failed is graduation exam 3 times and he's the same age as sasuke so does that make Naruto 3 years older than sasuke? NOOO
      who says naruto failed 3 times?
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by bladechronicles94 View Post
      When the fourth mizukage was controlled, zabuza was still in ninja academy because during that time the mist village was called the blood mist village because of the fourth mizukage's actions while he was controlled. But the thing is, according to naruto databooks, zabuza and obito are of the same age.
      This is wrong. The 4th mizukage isn't that old. I can prove it, so it is 100 % sure....

      Here you see Kisames memory of a mission he did for Fugaki, the fat guy of 7 swordsmen, who "Yagura" controlled by Obito, some years later made Kisame kill. Notice that Ibiki approaches Kisame.


      Now see this chapter from the chunin exam, which Obito took part in:


      It clearly proves Ibiki was also in the chunin exams at this time. From these 2 informations we can make a very qualified guess, that this scene:


      Must be about the same year as the Uchiha massacre, since Kisame most likely joined Akatsuki a bit after Itachi, given from the scene, where he talks to Itachi about sharks (wont look for it..)

      And to add another proof. The man Itachi approached to help him out with the Uchiha massacre had the exact same spiky hair, as the shadow we see behind Yagura.
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by IKSOKRIPS View Post
      How do you know it was the following year?! O_o

      Cuz it's not! Kakashi must have waited for others to graduate (it doesn't matter if they were or were not Obito or Rin) for him to take the Chunin Exam, cuz to enter it you need a team.

      Kakashi Only Graduated Before Them!
      Databook:
      Kakashi:
      Acadamy grad age, 5.
      Chunin grad age, 6.

      Conclusion:
      So it was the follow up year.
      He wasnt a chunin yet, when he took the exam with obito and rin.
      He became one in that very exam, as seen in the manga.

      Obito:
      Grad age, 9.
      Rin:
      Grad age 9.

      They are older than kakashi.
       
           
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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by bladechronicles94 View Post
      When the fourth mizukage was controlled, zabuza was still in ninja academy because during that time the mist village was called the blood mist village because of the fourth mizukage's actions while he was controlled. But the thing is, according to naruto databooks, zabuza and obito are of the same age.

      When the series began Zabuza was 26, the same age as Kakashi who was also the same age was Obito, but when Zabuza was in the ninja academy and killed all of his classmates he was 9 years old. So that should mean by that time Obito should have been nine years old, but he died when he was 13 years old so he couldn't have controlled the mizukage.

      So yeah something's kinda screwed up in the timeline. So maybe it was Madara who controlled the Mizukage because I read a theory in this site I think yesterday saying he may have controlled him by using a zetsu through the use of the tubes in his back or something like that.
      Your ages for Zabuza are incorrect, here's a link to my thread explaining why Zabuza is not that old, and also to answer your question of how Obito fits in the timeline. http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=248634
       
           
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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by lesley View Post
      who says naruto failed 3 times?
      Mizuki said so in chapter 1
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by lesley View Post
      who says naruto failed 3 times?
      he failed 3 times... but it could have been the same year tho.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by CDT23 View Post
      he failed 3 times... but it could have been the same year tho.
      exactly.
      and naruto mentioned it to neji as well.
      Naruto have been in classes with kiba, sasuke, sakura etc. and graduated in the same year as all of them.
       
           

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      Re: Did Obito Really Control The Mizukage?

      Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
      Databook:
      Kakashi:
      Acadamy grad age, 5.
      Chunin grad age, 6.

      Conclusion:
      So it was the follow up year.
      He wasnt a chunin yet, when he took the exam with obito and rin.
      He became one in that very exam, as seen in the manga.

      Obito:
      Grad age, 9.
      Rin:
      Grad age 9.

      They are older than kakashi.
      Oh, yeah, forgot about that, sorry.

      But still, Kakashi is the same-freaking-age as them!

      Kishimoto made a lot of mistakes in Chapter 599: "Obito Uchiha", it screwed up the Timeline. :shrug:
       
           

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