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    So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    So Kakashi getting MS was at the very mercy of Obito! Even after awakening the MS due to Obito, Kakashi couldn't use it till he became an adult, kinda pathetic if you ask me
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Kakashi is the one who killed Rin and they both awaked MS in same time so your theory fail.
    In contrary that just prove that a non Uchiha is the youngest to awake MS.Kakashi is simply a beast.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchihajin Sasuke View Post
    So Kakashi getting MS was at the very mercy of Obito! Even after awakening the MS due to Obito, Kakashi couldn't use it till he became an adult, kinda pathetic if you ask me
    Um ok those are just assumptions and not facts and this is a fail hate thread
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    hm Obito's trauma of seeing rin killed made kakashi awaken his MS
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    And everyone knows Kakashi has like no stamina to hold the sharingan even when he fought Zabuza in part 1. So of course the awakening of the MS is going to drain him. Stop trying to flame
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tendou00 View Post
    Kakashi is the one who killed Rin and they both awaked MS in same time so your theory fail.
    In contrary that just prove that a non Uchiha is the youngest to awake MS.Kakashi is simply a beast.
    If he really awakened MS on his own, then why couldn't he use it until he became an adult? Don't make sense to me

    Just to correct things, Obito's younger than Kakashi, so he is the youngest person to awaken the MS
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    well it is pathetic i agreed
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tendou00 View Post
    Kakashi is the one who killed Rin and they both awaked MS in same time so your theory fail.
    In contrary that just prove that a non Uchiha is the youngest to awake MS.Kakashi is simply a beast.
    agreed
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchihajin Sasuke View Post
    If he really awakened MS on his own, then why couldn't he use it until he became an adult? Don't make sense to me

    Just to correct things, Obito's younger than Kakashi, so he is the youngest person to awaken the MS
    It makes sense since Killing somoene close is the way to awake MS, Rin was close to Kakashi.It's obvious that his low chakra wasn't enough to control MS and he's not an Uchiha.The most important is that both awakened in same time .
    And no according to databook Kakashi is a lot younger than Obito.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    I think that as far as it taking kakashi longer then Obito to learn the MS you have to think about the fact that kakashi had nobody to teach him when you know that madara the one that knows all the secrets to the sharingan taught obito I mean who else but madara can fastrack someone in the sharingan
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    don't you mean kakashi awakened the ms for obito?
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    It's the contrary lol, kakashi killed Rin not Obito.Whatever they both got in in same time.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Without Obito eye. Kakashi would've just been a fodder, Obito made him
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Same can go for Obito. o-o
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Pathetic, huh? He uses it with great profficience and he's not even an Uchiha.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Kakashi and obitos eyes are linked..so kakashi killed rin unlocked Ms for both himself and obito and ofcourse him being non uchiha couldnt handle the awakening and collapsed...soo kakashi unlocked and obito mastered
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Wow kakashi is no fodder, we was called gifted and already a jonin before he even got the eye, your comment is fail.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    Without Obito eye. Kakashi would've just been a fodder, Obito made him
    im sorry but.. what the hell are you saying? Kakashi was like one of the youngest person to become a jonnin and an anbu.. he created his own justu(chidori). if anything without the MS obito would've been a fodder. and kakashi is the one who made obito, if he never killed rin, obito would have never awakened the MS, so no more MS=fodderized obito. kakashi could do fine without obito's sharigan. in fact he could probably do better since his chakra doesnt have to be constantly wasted on handling the sharigan.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    ur just a hater thats all!!!cudnt come up wid a worst thread thn this :flaw: even after being a non uchiha he perfected his ms n other than that kakashi was the 1 who helped obito awaken his ms by killin rin!!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Quote Originally Posted by Orochimarus Slave View Post
    im sorry but.. what the hell are you saying? Kakashi was like one of the youngest person to become a jonnin and an anbu.. he created his own justu(chidori). if anything without the MS obito would've been a fodder. and kakashi is the one who made obito, if he never killed rin, obito would have never awakened the MS, so no more MS=fodderized obito. kakashi could do fine without obito's sharigan. in fact he could probably do better since his chakra doesnt have to be constantly wasted on handling the sharigan.
    Obito unlocking the base sharingan itself qualifies himself to be Jounin level at the very least, but Obito has gone much further after training with Madara... and no you don't need to directly kill your closest friend to MS, you only need to witness it, the mental trauma is what that awakens the MS.

    Obito has mastered the Kamui, while Kakashi can only still transport things other than himself, not too impressive, and Kakashi uses his sharingan in almost every fight, even against Zabuza lol. Just to top this off, chidori is just suicidal without sharingan. So basically what made Kakashi from being a medium level jounin to S-class Jounin was none other than Obito
     
         
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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    No, he is right. Remember how Obito could see through kakashi? His sharingen was reacting to his presence and he was able to locate Rin and him. Kakashi on the other hand couldn't see anything through Obito. Kakashi only recently got a bit used to Sharingen's power and now it utilizes less of his Chakra. He is known to have low stamina and Chakra reserves, a fact he himself admits. He couldn't have been able to awaken it himself. Seeing Rin getting killed at Kakashi's hand caused Obito to awaken MS, and since he was close his other eye reacted. You have to understand that the whole 'See through Kakashi' with his sharingen is very very important here. His eye was reacting to his presence. So technically, when his one eye achieved MS so did the next one.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    de fuq ??? kakashi is the one awakened both MS for both of them
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Quote Originally Posted by shelke View Post
    No, he is right. Remember how Obito could see through kakashi? His sharingen was reacting to his presence and he was able to locate Rin and him. Kakashi on the other hand couldn't see anything through Obito. Kakashi only recently got a bit used to Sharingen's power and now it utilizes less of his Chakra. He is known to have low stamina and Chakra reserves, a fact he himself admits. He couldn't have been able to awaken it himself. Seeing Rin getting killed at Kakashi's hand caused Obito to awaken MS, and since he was close his other eye reacted. You have to understand that the whole 'See through Kakashi' with his sharingen is very very important here. His eye was reacting to his presence. So technically, when his one eye achieved MS so did the next one.

    and also to add to this fact, you don't have to kill your closest friend to awake the MS,

    you only have to witness it, and the mental trauma is what that triggers the awakening. Just like Obito, Shisui, Itachi, and Sasuke awakened their own sharingan.


    Rin was Obito's closest friend, and not Kakashi's best friend.

    There is no way Kakashi could awaken it by killing her.
     
         
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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    They both witnessed the same trauma and activated it at the same time.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Kakashi killed Rin, in which Obito seen. If it wasn't for Kakashi, Obito wouldn't even have MS; not yet anyway. Neither would Kakashi.

    And he's weak for fainting on first use? He's like.. not even 16 yet! He's just a kid, doesn't have Uchiha DNA and he unlocked MS before Itachi! He isn't weak, his limitations are stopping him from using the Sharingan better than a normal uchiha.

    Kakashi is an amazing ninja, he has over 1,000 jutsu mastered through Sharingan copy, he uses it very well for a non-blood.

    As for MS, he's amazingly skilled at it; a non-uchiha using MS skill, wtf? How is that not talented? And he can aim, and follow objects with it! He's basically mastered it, besides the drain anyway.

    Kakashi is an amazing ninja, and has mastered his Sharingan, and Mangekyou himself. Not counting drain here, he can't ever overcome that.

    OT: you're retarded, kthx.
     
         

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