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    Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    u may be thinking that this is a stupid question but its not. I DO KNOW that susanoo is a MS/EMS jutsu, but is perfect susanoo? why do i ask?

    Susanoo is formed through the materialisation of the user's chakra and as such differs in appearance, as well as colour between users. meaning that susanoo is a jutsu that its strength is based on the user's chakra.

    now why am i asking whether you need the rinnegan? well im not saying u need the rinnegan exactly, but to awaken the rinnegan an uchiha would need senju DNA.

    What were the Senju and Uzumaki known for? life force and physical energy
    What were the Uchiha known for? powerful chakra and spiritual energy

    Please note that 'powerful chakra' does NOT mean large amounts of chakra.*



    chakra is made by combining spiritual energy and physical energy, and this is used to make susanoo, the uchiha's powerful chakra combined with the senju's life forece is then used to make the perfect susanoo which is why it is called 'perfect'.

    As one of the strongest techniques granted to those that have acquired the Mangekyō Sharingan, it is the user's guardian deity, but at the same time, it consumes the user's life

    as you can see, susanoo consumes the user's life force which is the senju's gift. an uchiha having senju dna will give him the life force and physical energy in combination with his powerful chakra and spiritual energy needed to use perfect susanoo

    where i am going with this is that an uchiha with the MS/EMS would have a susanoo the size and strength of that similar to sasuke and itachi. whereas a uchiha with MS/EMS and Senju DNA would have a susanoo the size and strength of that similar to madara.

    So i think susanoo is an EMS jutsu but senju DNA is needed for perfect susanoo, im not saying im 100% correct but its just a thought.
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    That...that does actually does make sense o_0
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    I'm going to assume for now that it's an MS technique.
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    We don't know.


    It could just be a Mangekyo Sharingan Tech..
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    Perfect Susanoo is EMS justsu. Onooki even asked why Madara didnt use it against him in the past, Madara answered that there was no need to use it against a kid.
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    It has to be EMS as Madara stated no one who had seen it had lived, which means he used it against people and as we saw in the manga, he gained the Rinnegan as an old man.
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    It's a Sharingan tech.
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
    Perfect Susanoo is EMS justsu. Onooki even asked why Madara didnt use it against him in the past, Madara answered that there was no need to use it against a kid.
    This...
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
    Perfect Susanoo is EMS justsu. Onooki even asked why Madara didnt use it against him in the past, Madara answered that there was no need to use it against a kid.
    this^
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    Well presumably MS, but the user would probably die in 2 seconds without Senju dna.

    Senju dna is the answer to everything!!!
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    It is EMS. It was said in the manga that only Hashirama could withstand his perfect susano, though it was Tsunade that said it, I don't think Kishi would write it, unless he mean to tell us that Madara used it vs Hashirama.
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    I think its just unique to Madara because his chakra is so powerful and he is near god but I think as Kuruma foreshadowed sasuke will get to that level to.
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    I'm sure Senju DNA plays a role in making his so powerful now, but I think its something he's been able to do for a long time. He made references to being able to do it in the past.
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    This^
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    This
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    EMS all the way. It's an uchiha jutsu period
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    Why wont multiposting ever work
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    By common sense, it's an ability of EMS.

    ''Why didn't you use this power(PS) back then?'' -Because an adult shouldn't use full strength against a kid.

    ''Hashirama..fought this(PS)?'' -I told you, Hashirama is the only one capable of defeating me.
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
    Perfect Susanoo is EMS justsu. Onooki even asked why Madara didnt use it against him in the past, Madara answered that there was no need to use it against a kid.
    he was referring to his full power

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    It has to be EMS as Madara stated no one who had seen it had lived, which means he used it against people and as we saw in the manga, he gained the Rinnegan as an old man.
    then why is hashirama alive? and read the post correctly, i said senju DNA is needed for PS not Rinnegan, maybe u only read the title.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeathByHugs View Post
    Well presumably MS, but the user would probably die in 2 seconds without Senju dna.

    Senju dna is the answer to everything!!!
    i said this, MS/EMS = Susanoo MS/EMS + Senju DNA = Perfect Susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by thegame View Post
    It is EMS. It was said in the manga that only Hashirama could withstand his perfect susano, though it was Tsunade that said it, I don't think Kishi would write it, unless he mean to tell us that Madara used it vs Hashirama.
    tsunade was only guessing, i don't think madara used PS in tghe fight against hashirama
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Namikaze Haru View Post
    he was referring to his full power
    Just when Madara used Perfect Susanoo... so it was a coincidece? You can be in denial if you want to. Manga made it clear that PS is EMS jutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    EMS is needed for Perfect Susanoo; nothing else.
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    Sauske has ps with ems so no, it just has to do with how much the user puts in there chakra
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Killahkels View Post
    I think its just unique to Madara because his chakra is so powerful and he is near god but I think as Kuruma foreshadowed sasuke will get to that level to.
    i think its because he had hashi's DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by natssuu View Post
    By common sense, it's an ability of EMS.

    ''Why didn't you use this power(PS) back then?'' -Because an adult shouldn't use full strength against a kid.

    ''Hashirama..fought this(PS)?'' -I told you, Hashirama is the only one capable of defeating me.
    susanoo is an EMS ability, PS is debatable and they were just guessing madara's comment are not definitely pointing to PS, im not saying ur wrong however

    Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
    Just when Madara used Perfect Susanoo... so it was a coincidece? You can be in denial if you want to. Manga made it clear that PS is EMS jutsu.
    im not going to argue with u mate, if u want to argue then GTFO. Madara said anyone who sees PS dies, why would he say that when hashirama beat him. where has manga made it clear that PS is an EMS. reread my post. i said susanoo is an EMS technique but PS is debatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    EMS is needed for Perfect Susanoo; nothing else.
    so by your logic sasuke now has perfect susanoo?
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prime Rib View Post
    Sauske has ps with ems so no, it just has to do with how much the user puts in there chakra
    show me the manga page when sasuke used PS
     
         

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    Re: Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Namikaze Haru View Post
    so by your logic sasuke now has perfect susanoo?
    Did I say that? It's obvious that he has yet to unlock it...but EMS and only EMS is needed for PS.
     
         

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