Is Perfect susanoo a EMS or Rinnegan jutsu?

[Namikaze Haru]

u may be thinking that this is a stupid question but its not. I DO KNOW that susanoo is a MS/EMS jutsu, but is perfect susanoo? why do i ask?

Susanoo is formed through the materialisation of the user's chakra and as such differs in appearance, as well as colour between users. meaning that susanoo is a jutsu that its strength is based on the user's chakra.

now why am i asking whether you need the rinnegan? well im not saying u need the rinnegan exactly, but to awaken the rinnegan an uchiha would need senju DNA.

What were the Senju and Uzumaki known for? life force and physical energy
What were the Uchiha known for? powerful chakra and spiritual energy

Please note that 'powerful chakra' does NOT mean large amounts of chakra.*



chakra is made by combining spiritual energy and physical energy, and this is used to make susanoo, the uchiha's powerful chakra combined with the senju's life forece is then used to make the perfect susanoo which is why it is called 'perfect'.

As one of the strongest techniques granted to those that have acquired the Mangekyō Sharingan, it is the user's guardian deity, but at the same time, it consumes the user's life

as you can see, susanoo consumes the user's life force which is the senju's gift. an uchiha having senju dna will give him the life force and physical energy in combination with his powerful chakra and spiritual energy needed to use perfect susanoo

where i am going with this is that an uchiha with the MS/EMS would have a susanoo the size and strength of that similar to sasuke and itachi. whereas a uchiha with MS/EMS and Senju DNA would have a susanoo the size and strength of that similar to madara.

So i think susanoo is an EMS jutsu but senju DNA is needed for perfect susanoo, im not saying im 100% correct but its just a thought.

[-6 Paths-]

That...that does actually does make sense o_0

[‡Mudo‡]

I'm going to assume for now that it's an MS technique.

[Solo]

We don't know.


It could just be a Mangekyo Sharingan Tech..

[Turson]

Perfect Susanoo is EMS justsu. Onooki even asked why Madara didnt use it against him in the past, Madara answered that there was no need to use it against a kid.

[Necromancer4276]

It has to be EMS as Madara stated no one who had seen it had lived, which means he used it against people and as we saw in the manga, he gained the Rinnegan as an old man.

[Yusuke Urameshi]

It's a Sharingan tech.

[Bijuu Master]

Perfect Susanoo is EMS justsu. Onooki even asked why Madara didnt use it against him in the past, Madara answered that there was no need to use it against a kid.

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[oShux]

Perfect Susanoo is EMS justsu. Onooki even asked why Madara didnt use it against him in the past, Madara answered that there was no need to use it against a kid.

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[DeathByHugs]

Well presumably MS, but the user would probably die in 2 seconds without Senju dna.

Senju dna is the answer to everything!!!

[thegame]

It is EMS. It was said in the manga that only Hashirama could withstand his perfect susano, though it was Tsunade that said it, I don't think Kishi would write it, unless he mean to tell us that Madara used it vs Hashirama.

[Killahkels]

I think its just unique to Madara because his chakra is so powerful and he is near god but I think as Kuruma foreshadowed sasuke will get to that level to.

[Darth Wignus]

I'm sure Senju DNA plays a role in making his so powerful now, but I think its something he's been able to do for a long time. He made references to being able to do it in the past.

[Narutoga]

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[Narutoga]

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[lion fang master]

EMS all the way. It's an uchiha jutsu period

[Narutoga]

Why wont multiposting ever work

[natssuu]

By common sense, it's an ability of EMS.

''Why didn't you use this power(PS) back then?'' -Because an adult shouldn't use full strength against a kid.

''Hashirama..fought this(PS)?'' -I told you, Hashirama is the only one capable of defeating me.

[Namikaze Haru]

Perfect Susanoo is EMS justsu. Onooki even asked why Madara didnt use it against him in the past, Madara answered that there was no need to use it against a kid.

he was referring to his full power

It has to be EMS as Madara stated no one who had seen it had lived, which means he used it against people and as we saw in the manga, he gained the Rinnegan as an old man.

then why is hashirama alive? and read the post correctly, i said senju DNA is needed for PS not Rinnegan, maybe u only read the title.

Well presumably MS, but the user would probably die in 2 seconds without Senju dna.

Senju dna is the answer to everything!!!

i said this, MS/EMS = Susanoo MS/EMS + Senju DNA = Perfect Susanoo

It is EMS. It was said in the manga that only Hashirama could withstand his perfect susano, though it was Tsunade that said it, I don't think Kishi would write it, unless he mean to tell us that Madara used it vs Hashirama.

tsunade was only guessing, i don't think madara used PS in tghe fight against hashirama

[Turson]

he was referring to his full power

Just when Madara used Perfect Susanoo... so it was a coincidece? You can be in denial if you want to. Manga made it clear that PS is EMS jutsu.

[KidGamer65]

EMS is needed for Perfect Susanoo; nothing else.

[Prime Rib]

Sauske has ps with ems so no, it just has to do with how much the user puts in there chakra

[Namikaze Haru]

I think its just unique to Madara because his chakra is so powerful and he is near god but I think as Kuruma foreshadowed sasuke will get to that level to.

i think its because he had hashi's DNA

By common sense, it's an ability of EMS.

''Why didn't you use this power(PS) back then?'' -Because an adult shouldn't use full strength against a kid.

''Hashirama..fought this(PS)?'' -I told you, Hashirama is the only one capable of defeating me.

susanoo is an EMS ability, PS is debatable and they were just guessing madara's comment are not definitely pointing to PS, im not saying ur wrong however

Just when Madara used Perfect Susanoo... so it was a coincidece? You can be in denial if you want to. Manga made it clear that PS is EMS jutsu.

im not going to argue with u mate, if u want to argue then GTFO. Madara said anyone who sees PS dies, why would he say that when hashirama beat him. where has manga made it clear that PS is an EMS. reread my post. i said susanoo is an EMS technique but PS is debatable.

EMS is needed for Perfect Susanoo; nothing else.

so by your logic sasuke now has perfect susanoo?

[Namikaze Haru]

Sauske has ps with ems so no, it just has to do with how much the user puts in there chakra

show me the manga page when sasuke used PS

[KidGamer65]

so by your logic sasuke now has perfect susanoo?

Did I say that? It's obvious that he has yet to unlock it...but EMS and only EMS is needed for PS.