MS Theory

[Thundercles]

MS has been said to eventually corrode the light in an Uchiha's eye with overuse. We have seen this in Madara, Itachi, and Sasuke. Now, we have seen exceptions in Tobi and Kakashi. I believe there are 2 significant reasons as to why this is.
#1 Tobi: Due to him having the 1st Hokage's DNA implanted in his body, it is giving him vitality and his eye won't seal shut like that of normal Uchiha.

#2 Kakashi: His eye was transplanted. He is not an Uchiha and therefore the only drawback for him is massive chakra loss. He has used the tech quite a bit over time and still has shown no signs of vision deterioration. In fact, with him transporting small objects, i.e, nails, he still has an amazing eye sight. I believe the MS drawback of blindess only occurs in Uchiha, while other shinobi will just lose a lot of chakra.

Thoughts?

[LssJBroly]

possibly

[Priyank]

how do you explain kakashi knowing that the use of MS decreases vision...

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/257/9

[shadedcrow]

Kakashi already knows about the blindness I think he talked to Itachi or Sauske about it before. If the light fades the more you use the MS and Kakashi hasnt used his for 20+ years until recently it wouldnt have impacted him till he started using Kamui. Not sure what obitos deal is tho. Dont think ive seen obitos eye change from 3tomoe to MS thus far even when warping and using his s/t tech.

[Thundercles]

Kakashi already knows about the blindness I think he talked to Itachi or Sauske about it before. If the light fades the more you use the MS and Kakashi hasnt used his for 20+ years until recently it wouldnt have impacted him till he started using Kamui. Not sure what obitos deal is tho. Dont think ive seen obitos eye change from 3tomoe to MS thus far even when warping and using his s/t tech.

It has shown Obito's eye transforming to MS.

Kakashi has used his Kamui much longer than Sasuke used his MS. I'd say that is proof in itself. Sasuke's dropped pretty quick, while Kakashi's hasnt been shown to drop any.

[Thundercles]

how do you explain kakashi knowing that the use of MS decreases vision...

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/257/9

Well, seeing as everyone and their momma knows of the MS from other villages, it doesnt seem unlikely for him to know the drawbacks. He hasn't shown any vision loss.

[Unatural]

Nop

[Thundercles]

Nop

Care to elaborate on that?

[shadedcrow]

NM its the first time I've seen it in the last chapter.

And Kakashi hasnt shown any vision loss other than he was asking Itachi how bad his vision was getting.

[Thundercles]

NM its the first time I've seen it in the last chapter.

And Kakashi hasnt shown any vision loss other than he was asking Itachi how bad his vision was getting.

Obito's MS developed when Kakashi killed Rin (1) it showed it again like 5 issues back when he was revealed to be Obito and he used his MS tech (2).

[IIB7252]

Kakashi keeps his shahringan eye closed for most of the time...He uses that eye rarely...He has used his shahringan eye to this extent only in this war...he hasnt used it at all except FEW of occasions like fighting pain,zabusa,itachi,etc...So kakashi has a loooong way to go before he gets blind...

[zinescience]

what of shisui ms theory

[shadedcrow]

glad we saw obitos ms twice out of the 15+ times hes used his s/t technique. and WTF is up with this? http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/510/3 Obito can warp his body or parts of it to another dimension with out his MS?

[Thundercles]

Kakashi keeps his shahringan eye closed for most of the time...He uses that eye rarely...He has used his shahringan eye to this extent only in this war...he hasnt used it at all except FEW of occasions like fighting pain,zabusa,itachi,etc...So kakashi has a loooong way to go before he gets blind...

Kakashi's sharingan and MS are differ matters.... Sharingan dont share the same adverse effect as the MS. You dont go blind from a normal sharingan. Im talking about MS.

[Thundercles]

what of shisui ms theory

Good question.

[Thundercles]

glad we saw obitos ms twice out of the 15+ times hes used his s/t technique. and WTF is up with this? http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/510/3 Obito can warp his body or parts of it to another dimension with out his MS?

Well, I think that may have been either an error or just kishi's way of keeping Tobi's ID secret.

[xxSAGExx]

It has shown Obito's eye transforming to MS.

Kakashi has used his Kamui much longer than Sasuke used his MS. I'd say that is proof in itself. Sasuke's dropped pretty quick, while Kakashi's hasnt been shown to drop any.

Yes Kakshi had his MS longer than Sasuke but Sasuke has been spamming his MS way more. Kakashi only recently (No idea where he's getting the chakra) spamming kamui. He used it twice against Deidara,2-3 against Pain ( think 2. nail and missile), Then I think 1 on the amterasu surround Itachi/Sasuke battle area and the ones he used against Tobi and at least 3 if not more. sasuke did Amaterasu on Tobi, Amater. on Bee, Tskuyomi on Bee (he grabs he eye after), Sasunoo on A (from rib cage/arm to a body form), amater. on Sasunoo and shot at A,Sasunoo on Mei, Tskuyomi, Sasunoo and (i think/forgot) amater. on Danzo, Sasunoo on Kakashi. Now Sasunoo does the most damage to the eye since it requires both eyes then the other tech do a certain amount themselves.

Kakashi uses more chakra than what a Uchiha would use since Uchihas have powerful chakra from the Sage, it also does some physical damaga as well as we saw Kakashi hospitalized after it showed him first use it on Deidara. In the anime Itachi even told Kakashi he lacks the physical strenght of the Uchihas.

[shubzy123]

Sasuke Uses the MS wayy more, the idiot used it in EVERY fight after he got it. He even used Susanoo like all the time,, Itachi rarely needed to use Susanoo because he was already greatly skilled ?