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      Tsunade and Sakura vs 4th Raikage

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      no one is holding back.. who wins?
       
           

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      Re: Tsunade and Sakura vs 4th Raikage

      Saukra is a non-factor and A can beat Tsunade so, A wins.
       
           

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      A oneshots Sakura.
      Tsunade defeats A.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Slug Princess Tsunade View Post
      A oneshots Sakura.
      Tsunade defeats A.
      A appears behind Tsunade and cut her head off with Lairat.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Simple Math View Post
      A appears behind Tsunade and cut her head off with Lairat.
      Thats not so easy as you imagine.
      Remember, Tsunade's reaction time is better than A's. This is manga proof.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
      Saukra is a non-factor and A can beat Tsunade so, A wins.
      Sakura can be a non factor considering how she can take advantage of terrain affectation just like her master.
      It's not that easy to run on a terrain that's not straight. Plus she knows how to boost her speed via chakra control, same thing that Tsunade can do.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
      Sakura can be a non factor considering how she can take advantage of terrain affectation just like her master.
      It's not that easy to run on a terrain that's not straight. Plus she knows how to boost her speed via chakra control, same thing that Tsunade can do.
      This is true, howewer she is not a challenge to the Raikage. She would only hold Tsunade back, because she should protect her.
       
           

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      Re: Tsunade and Sakura vs 4th Raikage

      Quote Originally Posted by Slug Princess Tsunade View Post
      This is true, howewer she is not a challenge to the Raikage. She would only hold Tsunade back, because she should protect her.
      Of course that at her current state it's not a challenge.
      However it's not that non-factorial as people try her to be.
      Let's not forget she was a big asset against an S-rank criminal.
       
           

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      The fodders
       
           

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      Re: Tsunade and Sakura vs 4th Raikage

      haha this is very simple
      raikage lariats both of them
      though tsunade can hold herself but sakura is just D
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
      Of course that at her current state it's not a challenge.
      However it's not that non-factorial as people try her to be.
      Let's not forget she was a big asset against an S-rank criminal.
      Yeah, I agree with you.
      The problem is that it seems Kishi forget about her I hope she gets a power-up. ( Slug Sage mode, Creation rebirth or a powerful genjutsu. Or Katsuya. )
       
           

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      Re: Tsunade and Sakura vs 4th Raikage

      Quote Originally Posted by Slug Princess Tsunade View Post
      Yeah, I agree with you.
      The problem is that it seems Kishi forget about her I hope she gets a power-up. ( Slug Sage mode, Creation rebirth or a powerful genjutsu. Or Katsuya. )
      Well, that's another problem.
      However she could be of help in this fight.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Slug Princess Tsunade View Post
      Thats not so easy as you imagine.
      Remember, Tsunade's reaction time is better than A's. This is manga proof.
      still wont help her. re-read the Op again, "no one is holding back"

      as soon A goes full v2 speed, Tsunade is helpless.. she got no counter for his speed or his lighting attacks.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Simple Math View Post
      still wont help her. re-read the Op again, "no one is holding back"

      as soon A goes full v2 speed, Tsunade is helpless.. she got no counter for his speed or his lighting attacks.
      Her counter is her slug and her immortality.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Slug Princess Tsunade View Post
      Her counter is her slug and her immortality.
      while she's cut in half, A just have to smash her into 1000 pieces until she doesnt exist.
      there you go

      A wins the battle.
       
           

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      not sure whats the debate against
       
           

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      Re: Tsunade and Sakura vs 4th Raikage

      When intent to kill, we had the case Bee&Naruto, mostly Naruto vs. the Raikage.

      When Raikage punched Naruto this is what he stated:



      So we can safely assume Raikage's strong punch in V1 didn't kill anyone, right?

      Now, let's go in V2. His strongest punch did this:



      Now let's take a loot at Lariat, what it does:



      Basically destabilizes you.

      I took as example Bee's Lariat who was shown to be stronger than his in that chapter.

      Out of the two, let's remember who's more resistant:


      Raikage:



      Tsunade:






      So even IF Raikage would go Raiger Bomb on her, Tsunade won't be affected as we can see she can still operate in highly injured state.

      And let's not forget one thing, once he is close to him all Tsunade needs is a punch.

      People say that he's too fast, but Tsunade's reaction speed has been showed to surpass even his.



      And, one thing. Speed can be increased via chakra control. A thing that people constantly forget.
      But this was explained more in part 1 when things were more technical than now.



      Plus, there's Katsuyu.

      So next time when you say that Raikage takes this easy, pleas think twice.

      It's not that easy to put Tsunade off-grounds.

      Not to mention that Raikage can be enveloped by Katsuyu and Tsunade can transmit her techniques via her so what then?

      I am not saying Tsunade is taking this, I am not saying Raikage is taking this. They have equal chances. One is faster, one is stronger.

      What I am saying is that people seriously underrate Tsunade just because of speed and from the lack of knowledge of her fighting style.
       
           
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      V2 lariat beheads both
       
           

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      Re: Tsunade and Sakura vs 4th Raikage

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      V2 lariat beheads both
      Might telling me where is Bee shown in this thread?
       
           

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      Might telling me where is Bee shown in this thread?
      He is referring to A's V2 raiton armor.
       
           

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      He is referring to A's V2 raiton armor.
      Oh well, that was already shown.
       
           

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      Re: Tsunade and Sakura vs 4th Raikage

      A One shots sakura.

      Then continue to fight Tsunade where he will get his ass Kicked.

       
           

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      Re: Tsunade and Sakura vs 4th Raikage

      Like other people said, Sakura is a non-factor here, and A will eventually defeat Tsunade whether by beheading her or outlasting her with his Bijuu level stamina. With his speed, Tsunade can't keep up
       
           

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      Re: Tsunade and Sakura vs 4th Raikage

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      Like other people said, Sakura is a non-factor here, and A will eventually defeat Tsunade whether by beheading her or outlasting her with his Bijuu level stamina. With his speed, Tsunade can't keep up
      She doesn't even have to keep-up, just blitz.

      And when the statement of Bijuu level was done, Tsunade wasn't there, it was Danzo replacing her, so Karin didn't get any sense of her stamina.

      So I guess it is fair to not underestimate her stamina.

      And Lariat simple, as far as we've seen, it doesn't behead.

      And it's not easy to just behead the most resilient character in Narutoverse.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
      She doesn't even have to keep-up, just blitz.

      And when the statement of Bijuu level was done, Tsunade wasn't there, it was Danzo replacing her, so Karin didn't get any sense of her stamina.

      So I guess it is fair to not underestimate her stamina.

      And Lariat simple, as far as we've seen, it doesn't behead.

      And it's not easy to just behead the most resilient character in Narutoverse.
      I'm sorry, but tsunade is not truly able to blitz anyone unless they are considered to be significantly slower than average.. Her speed is definitely above average, but won't be able to blitz high level opponents with her level of speed. Especially a person whose speed outclasses hers completely.

      Also, the raikages have been noted to have the greatest stamina and some of the toughest bodies in the series next to Kisame and other jinchuuriki. Tsunade is a medical ninja, her style of fighting combines her powerful medical techniques such as byakugou with her enormous strength so that she heals from almost any wound inflicted upon her. Her body isn't considered to be very resilient because she has to use her medical techniques to heal many injuries inflicted in battle whereas the raikages can survive virtually anything with their incredibly durable bodies.

      The lariat itself may not behead the opponent, but the force created upon impact with her neck may be enough to snap it. They could also use the lightning in their hands to sever her neck clean as they has been shown to cut through solid flesh easily. If her neck is severed, she will die immediately.
       
           

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