[Discussion] Death Reaper Seal

[asparticus]

So when sarutobi sensei was fighting lord orochimaru during the invasion, sarutobi sensei used death reaper seal to seal away the first and second hokage with SHADOW CLONES.

Why the hail didn't sarutobi sensei use a shadow clone to use death reaper seal on Lord Orochimaru?

And lord orochimaru was about to bring out a third coffin that was supposedly said to be Sir Minato. Minato was sealed, no?


damn, all the damn hoe-kages are sealed. -__- i wanted sarutobi sensei to come back with edo at least. i mean...you gotta admit in part 1 he was a pretty cool guy.

[Juha]

So when sarutobi sensei was fighting lord orochimaru during the invasion, sarutobi sensei used death reaper seal to seal away the first and second hokage with SHADOW CLONES.

Why the hail didn't sarutobi sensei use a shadow clone to use death reaper seal on Lord Orochimaru?

And lord orochimaru was about to bring out a third coffin that was supposedly said to be Sir Minato. Minato was sealed, no?


damn, all the damn hoe-kages are sealed. -__- i wanted sarutobi sensei to come back with edo at least. i mean...you gotta admit in part 1 he was a pretty cool guy.

I still think the third coffin was madara.

[MellowHype]

I still think the third coffin was madara.

Interesting theory. Care to elaborate?

[AnimusOra]

No the third coffin was Minato Kabuto confirmed it when he explained how edo tensei works and how Oro failed reviving the 4th since he was sealed away

[Juha]

Interesting theory. Care to elaborate?

Because hiruzen should have known that if it was really minato he was trying to summon that he would not have to attempt to stop it because hiruzen knew how minato died and would know that minato's soul was seal. He knew instantly that oro was using reanimation.

That or the last coffin could have been sasuke sarutobi which if it was hiruzen knew he would be defeated and tried to stop it.

[CurseSealofEarth]

You know, I always wondered this, but maybe it's best to not dwell on it. *Sweeps conversation under rug*

[Minato and Jiraiya]

i think oco was make fake hokage people. you can see 1st hokage was seal by 3rd hokage that mean 1st hokage was suppose to gone but madara still have 1st hokage. that mean could oco use fake people cottin against 3rd hokage.

sorry my english lol

[asparticus]

okay okay, that solves the second question.

what about the question of the death reaper seal?

[AnimusOra]

Because hiruzen should have known that if it was really minato he was trying to summon that he would not have to attempt to stop it because hiruzen knew how minato died and would know that minato's soul was seal. He knew instantly that oro was using reanimation.

That or the last coffin could have been sasuke sarutobi which if it was hiruzen knew he would be defeated and tried to stop it.

No because didnt know that sealing them doesnt allow them to not be used. He also did not know about the reaper seal's effects until he used it. He sealed them away permanetly so they cant be used again. He knew Minato died but after seeing how it happened they probably assumed he died from being pierced by kurama and not the seal. I dont know if Hiruzen knew as many seals from the Uzamaki clan as Minato or how they work. He just witnessed the seals in order to perform the ritual

[Juha]

We have yet to find out wether the rds can be reversed.

[AnimusOra]

okay okay, that solves the second question.

what about the question of the death reaper seal?

Kakashi explained how Shadow clones work and how it affects the original user and to add to the fact Hiruzen was old the fact he did use 3 seals is amazing ebough compared to Minato using only two at a young age

[Juha]

No because didnt know that sealing them doesnt allow them to not be used. He also did not know about the reaper seal's effects until he used it. He sealed them away permanetly so they cant be used again. He knew Minato died but after seeing how it happened they probably assumed he died from being pierced by kurama and not the seal. I dont know if Hiruzen knew as many seals from the Uzamaki clan as Minato or how they work. He just witnessed the seals in order to perform the ritual

I know all that already I just like to theorize once in a while.

[Aaroninja]

No the third coffin was Minato Kabuto confirmed it when he explained how edo tensei works and how Oro failed reviving the 4th since he was sealed away

I wouldnt be surprised if Kabuto was wrong. Oro is still far more intelligent than Kabuto and I wouldn't be surprised if he kept something like this from him.

Because hiruzen should have known that if it was really minato he was trying to summon that he would not have to attempt to stop it because hiruzen knew how minato died and would know that minato's soul was seal. He knew instantly that oro was using reanimation.

That or the last coffin could have been sasuke sarutobi which if it was hiruzen knew he would be defeated and tried to stop it.

That is an interesting theory which I agree with , except for the Sasuke Sarutobi part. I would like it to be true, but there is no point in putting his father because he has had no impact on the story besides being someone to name Sasuke after. If it were Madara that would make sense, because he was around at the same time as the other two.

But lets be realistic here. Besides the Itachi twist, the plot is relatively straightforward and simple and something like this would overcomplicate things. Just like the identity of Tobi. Obito was the most obvious one so most people (including myself) were expecting a nice twist like Izuna or Fugaku or someone.

[ANONYMOUS 182]

i don't wanna see tht old geezer again!!!

[Prime Rib]

it was the 4th

[Uchiha Samater]

errm guys it was confirmed by kabuto that it was the fourth and it failed cos he was already sealed

[kibaclaw]

You still die if you use the reaper with shadow clone, he used the clones so he could reaper three instead of one.

[rdees1011]

He uses shadow clones so he can kill 3 birds with one stone. And considering Minato was sealed into the RDS belly, the third coffin is a mystery. I'm going to put my money on Madara, given Kabutos knowledge of the secret uchia tablet probably came mostly from Oro's hard work.

[MilwaukeegHost]

I still think the third coffin was madara.

THIS.

Minato was sealed in the Death God. Not possible to be Edo'd.