Page 1 of 8 12345 ... Last»
Results 1 to 25 of 189
  1. #1
    ~Boss~Minato~Uzumaki~ ~Sovereign~'s Avatar
    Status
    ~Sovereign~ is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Village Hidden In The Sky
    Posts
    2,389
    Post Thanks / Like
    Conquer The World
     

    Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    i was looking at itachi vs sasuke fight and i noticed this

    zetsu is watching the entire fight, and he said this
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/388/17

    ^^^^why dont zetsu recognize amaterasu????????

    REMEMBER ZETSU KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT MADARA
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/606/14
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/606/15


    this PROVES madara doesnt have amaterasu because zetsu would have known about it already unless kishi contradicts his manga

    and since madara can use susano without amaterasu, this proves susano doesnt require amaterasu

    this proves the databook wrong too......unless the databook is talking about just ITACHI's susano

    agree?

    EDIT: here is my thread other thread about susano requirements
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=258665
     
         
    Last edited by ~Sovereign~; 12-09-2012 at 01:42 PM.

  2. #2
    Beginner GFXer Normal fanboy's Avatar
    Status
    Normal fanboy is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    SAO
    Posts
    619
    Post Thanks / Like
    Step into the mind of Logic.
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    yeah i guess >.>
     
         

  3. #3
    Senior Member muutobirama3rdraikagemizu's Avatar
    Status
    muutobirama3rdraikagemizu is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    5,377
    Post Thanks / Like
    SHISHUI IS UNDARRATED
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Idk on this
     
         

  4. #4
    Lord since #634( •_•)>⌐■-■ MrSimple's Avatar
    Status
    MrSimple is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    New World
    Posts
    2,060
    Post Thanks / Like
    Exclusive~ •_•)
    •_•)>⌐■-■
    ⌐■_■)
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Everyone knows that from long ago...
     
         

  5. #5
    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻) Sea Of Thy Soul's Avatar
    Status
    Sea Of Thy Soul is offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    うちは一族.
    Posts
    3,597
    Post Thanks / Like
    Problem?
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    You only need both mangekyou's to unlock Susano'o?!
     
         

  6. #6
    終 充琉寿 Owarij's Avatar
    Status
    Owarij is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Valyria
    Posts
    13,308
    Post Thanks / Like
    A mind needs books, as a sword
    needs a whetstone, if it is to
    keep its edge.
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Black zetsu knew of it and explained exactly what it does to white zetsu

    "If the left Mangekyou posesses the most powerful Mangekyou, the right one holds the most powerful physical attack..

    and then a description of amaterasu..."

    That doesn't sound like someone who doesnt know of it
     
         
    Last edited by Owarij; 12-09-2012 at 01:41 PM.

  7. #7
    ~Boss~Minato~Uzumaki~ ~Sovereign~'s Avatar
    Status
    ~Sovereign~ is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Village Hidden In The Sky
    Posts
    2,389
    Post Thanks / Like
    Conquer The World
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Of Thy Soul View Post
    You only need both mangekyou's to unlock Susano'o?!
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/464/16
     
         

  8. #8
    ~Boss~Minato~Uzumaki~ ~Sovereign~'s Avatar
    Status
    ~Sovereign~ is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Village Hidden In The Sky
    Posts
    2,389
    Post Thanks / Like
    Conquer The World
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Black zetsu knew of it and explained exactly what it does to white zetsu
    AFTER itachi used it
     
         

  9. #9
    Senior Member Unbiased's Avatar
    Status
    Unbiased is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    3,092
    Post Thanks / Like
    Hating on tsunade all day.
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Databook says otherwise.
     
         

  10. #10
    demon fang's Avatar
    Status
    demon fang is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    In the Lab
    Posts
    5,004
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    I don't know it seemed like he knew about it just never seen it in action.
     
         

  11. #11
    Member senjumahe's Avatar
    Status
    senjumahe is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    187
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    At above nt many do. the manga obviously contradicts itself in some places but fanboys think that kishi doesn't make mistakes which is wrong. this is the reason i think why we haven't yet seen madaras Ms techniques, right? because kishi messed up there
     
         

  12. #12
    Senior Member Itachi2020's Avatar
    Status
    Itachi2020 is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Cairo
    Posts
    1,591
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    But Black Zetsu knows about it, and the black one should know more about Madara.
     
         

  13. #13
    終 充琉寿 Owarij's Avatar
    Status
    Owarij is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Valyria
    Posts
    13,308
    Post Thanks / Like
    A mind needs books, as a sword
    needs a whetstone, if it is to
    keep its edge.
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    AFTER itachi used it
    Itachi did not use it yet..check the scan again my friend
     
         

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Status
    Thundergod123 is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    4,163
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Yeah, all of we knows that Itachi need to unlock Tsukyomi and Amaterasu to use Susano, but Madara doesn't have any Amaterasu.
     
         

  15. #15
    Meowtebayo Meowazziel's Avatar
    Status
    Meowazziel is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    3,761
    Post Thanks / Like
    Meow meow meow
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    i was looking at itachi vs sasuke fight and i noticed this

    zetsu is watching the entire fight, and he said this
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/388/17

    ^^^^why dont zetsu recognize amaterasu????????

    REMEMBER ZETSU KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT MADARA
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/606/14
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/606/15


    this PROVES madara doesnt have amaterasu because zetsu would have known about it already unless kishi contradicts his manga

    and since madara can use susano without amaterasu, this proves susano doesnt require amaterasu

    this proves the databook wrong too......unless the databook is talking about just ITACHI's susano

    agree?
    You actually proved yourself wrong .
    Amaterasu:
    Black Zetsu knows of it, so Madara most likely has Amaterasu.
    Black Zetsu however, has never seen it in action, which is true, cause Madara died like 3 seconds after his creation.

    Tsukuyomi:
    Madara showed some form of Tsukuyomi to Obito, so he has that jutsu as well.

    Susanoo:
    Madara has perfect Susanoo.

    Susanoo is rare:
    Obito said it was rare for MS users to unlock Susanoo.
    Obito himself doesnt have it.
    Shisui, as far as we know, doesnt have it either.

    So yeah, you probably need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, to unlock Susanoo.
     
         

  16. #16
    Turnt up king on NB. Prince Charles's Avatar
    Status
    Prince Charles is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    #3hunna
    Posts
    12,404
    Post Thanks / Like
    Turnt up all day. So please
    refrain from getting in a
    debate with me!
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Black zetsu explained it...

    Also databook saids otherwise

    either kishi forgot about this or he doesnt care
     
         

  17. #17
    Lord since #634( •_•)>⌐■-■ MrSimple's Avatar
    Status
    MrSimple is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    New World
    Posts
    2,060
    Post Thanks / Like
    Exclusive~ •_•)
    •_•)>⌐■-■
    ⌐■_■)
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Black zetsu knew of it and explained exactly what it does to white zetsu

    "If the left Mangekyou posesses the most powerful Mangekyou, the right one holds the most powerful physical attack..

    and then a description of amaterasu..."

    That doesn't sound like someone who doesnt know of it


    That's because he's talking about Itachi, this thinking is wrong...

    If Sasuke has amateratsu with his left eye, he can control it with his right eye? See the difference?

    And then at the kage summit Sasuke explained the rest.
     
         
    Last edited by MrSimple; 12-09-2012 at 01:45 PM. Reason: .

  18. #18
    ~Boss~Minato~Uzumaki~ ~Sovereign~'s Avatar
    Status
    ~Sovereign~ is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Village Hidden In The Sky
    Posts
    2,389
    Post Thanks / Like
    Conquer The World
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Black zetsu knew of it and explained exactly what it does to white zetsu

    "If the left Mangekyou posesses the most powerful Mangekyou, the right one holds the most powerful physical attack..

    and then a description of amaterasu..."

    That doesn't sound like someone who doesnt know of it
    might he have heard a rumor about it

    zetsu clearly states "we might actually get to see it"
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/388/17
     
         

  19. #19
    ~Boss~Minato~Uzumaki~ ~Sovereign~'s Avatar
    Status
    ~Sovereign~ is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Village Hidden In The Sky
    Posts
    2,389
    Post Thanks / Like
    Conquer The World
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Charles View Post
    Black zetsu explained it...

    Also databook saids otherwise

    either kishi forgot about this or he doesnt care
    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    You actually proved yourself wrong .
    Amaterasu:
    Black Zetsu knows of it, so Madara most likely has Amaterasu.
    Black Zetsu however, has never seen it in action, which is true, cause Madara died like 3 seconds after his creation.

    Tsukuyomi:
    Madara showed some form of Tsukuyomi to Obito, so he has that jutsu as well.

    Susanoo:
    Madara has perfect Susanoo.

    Susanoo is rare:
    Obito said it was rare for MS users to unlock Susanoo.
    Obito himself doesnt have it.
    Shisui, as far as we know, doesnt have it either.

    So yeah, you probably need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, to unlock Susanoo.
    both of you look at post 19

    obito doesnt have it becvause he has one eye
     
         

  20. #20
    Meowtebayo Meowazziel's Avatar
    Status
    Meowazziel is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    3,761
    Post Thanks / Like
    Meow meow meow
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    both of you look at post 19
    Black Zetsu has all Madara's knowledge. Madara used the rikudo no jutsu to shape his will into a physical form (this became Black Zetsu). Black Zetsu knows what Madara knows.
    Amaterasu is probably one of these things.
    I find that more likely than having heard a rumor about it, dont you think?
     
         

  21. #21
    Senior Member KidGamer65's Avatar
    Status
    KidGamer65 is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    21,871
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Him saying "We might actually get to see it" doesn't mean that he has never seen it before, he is just wondering if they will be able to see it in the current battle.
     
         

  22. #22
    ~Boss~Minato~Uzumaki~ ~Sovereign~'s Avatar
    Status
    ~Sovereign~ is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Village Hidden In The Sky
    Posts
    2,389
    Post Thanks / Like
    Conquer The World
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    Black Zetsu has all Madara's knowledge. Madara used the rikudo no jutsu to shape his will into a physical form (this became Black Zetsu). Black Zetsu knows what Madara knows.
    Amaterasu is probably one of these things.
    I find that more likely than having heard a rumor about it, dont you think?
    thats what i said

    black zetsu only explained a rumor

    if madara had amaterasu, zetsu wouldve already seen amaterasu before
     
         

  23. #23
    終 充琉寿 Owarij's Avatar
    Status
    Owarij is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Valyria
    Posts
    13,308
    Post Thanks / Like
    A mind needs books, as a sword
    needs a whetstone, if it is to
    keep its edge.
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    might he have heard a rumor about it

    zetsu clearly states "we might actually get to see it"
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/388/17
    Black zetsu never saw Madara use it... Madara was in old age barely able to go places...

    Rumor? If he heard it as a rumor, White zetsu would have known of it aswell.... But white zetsu was completely clueless, yet the black knew exactly what it was and even that it's the partner jutsu to Tsukyomi... Unless you're going to imply that black and white split up and he heard it?


    You're starting to base your argument on pure conjecture not supported by the manga at all... this isn't proof what so ever


    if madara had amaterasu, zetsu wouldve already seen amaterasu before
    as I said wrong, when zetsu was made Madara was an old man, he never saw madara fight, he had knowledge of the ability, but never saw it in action
     
         

  24. #24
    ~Boss~Minato~Uzumaki~ ~Sovereign~'s Avatar
    Status
    ~Sovereign~ is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Village Hidden In The Sky
    Posts
    2,389
    Post Thanks / Like
    Conquer The World
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    Him saying "We might actually get to see it" doesn't mean that he has never seen it before, he is just wondering if they will be able to see it in the current battle.
    zetsu was shocked to see itachi use amaterasu for the first time

    they were shock and didnt know it can burn fire
     
         

  25. #25
    demon fang's Avatar
    Status
    demon fang is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    In the Lab
    Posts
    5,004
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    if black zetsu only heard that makes me wonder where heard it from maybe your right about it him hearing it as a "rumor" otherwise he would have said something like "from what madara explained to me" but, I guess kishi maybe didn't want to make the connection between madara and zetsu's relationship so guess he kept his mouth shut to reveal the truth at a later time...who knows...but, you gotta point with the contradiction.
     
         
    Last edited by demon fang; 12-09-2012 at 01:55 PM.

Page 1 of 8 12345 ... Last»

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •