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why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
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I think the PS is an MS tech, not an EMS tech and here's why.
Susanoo carries many forms and this could just be the final form that only Madara has mastered so far.
Susanoo already has forms; rib cage, skeletal, full, completed, and perfect
With perfect Susanoo, Madara just stabilized the chakra of the completed Susanoo form.....
Both Sasuke and Itachi have the completed Susanoo already with their MS.
Madara's
Sasuke's...look at how the arms resemble Madara's full form and the cloak.
Itachi has the same unstable fiery chakra and cloak form
The Susanoo tech awakens with the MS, not EMS; and having the Susanoo is a rarity in itself. So imagine how rare a PS would be then? I don't think it's an EMS tech since Itachi mentioned that the EMS "gives birth to a completely new tech" and the PS is just an improved version of susanoo.
And if Susanoo is indeed rare, then PS is like the rarest pokemon out there. Getting both would then be like hitting a jackpot.
I somewhat compare the Perfect Susanoo to Naruto's rasengan progression where he had to struggle to maintain control of his chakra and also use clones to help stabilize it for a rasengan.
It's like saying Naruto's chakra mode is MS and bijuu mode is EMS.....but it's not, it's just the mastery over the bijuu, same thing with Susanoo.
One last note. Madara fought Hashirama countless times with just the MS and Hashirama can easily break through a regular susanoo. If he didn't have PS, how would he have survived each time?
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Last edited by Lightbringer; 12-31-2012 at 05:58 PM.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Anonymous Kid
cuz it is
I agree
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
:sy: It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
Agreed...the Perfect Susanoo is just a susanoo that has been evolved thanks to the EMS...it was said the user unlocks a "new Technique" and Susanoo is already the 3rd power of the MS.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
OMG Re-Read the Manga, Madara awakened in AFTER awakening the RINNEGAN
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Kages
:sy: It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:
That's what I mean, Susanoo is an MS tech and PS is not a completely new tech for an EMS from what Itachi stated. It's like saying chakra mode is MS and bijuu mode is EMS.....it's just the mastery over the bijuu, same thing with Susanoo.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
Because he used it against Hashirama. He only had EMS against Hashirama.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Lightbringer
as the title says why do people believe it's an EMS tech? Susanoo carries many forms and this could just be the final form that only Madara has mastered so far.
Sasuke first started out with the skeletal susanoo and then slowly evolved, but his could have progressed a lot faster than other susanoo users. It probably takes time and skill for it to get to PS since you need to figure out how to stabilize it and also use up a ton of chakra.
The Susanoo tech awakens with the MS not EMS either, and having the Susanoo is a rarity in itself. So imagine how rare a PS would be then? I don't think it's an EMS tech since Itachi mentioned that the EMS "gives birth to a completely new tech" and the PS is just an improved version of susanoo.
I somewhat compare the Perfect Susanoo to Naruto's rasengan progression where he had to struggle to maintain control of his chakra and also use clones to help stabilize it for a rasengan.

In order to be able to gain skill and control you must use it a lot, with a regular MS you run the risk of losing your sight, with EMS you don't, that's why.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by shubzy123
OMG Re-Read the Manga, Madara awakened in AFTER awakening the RINNEGAN
OMG Re-Read the manga No he didn't! He awakened his rinnegan when he was old and he said anyone who has seen it hasn't survived, meaning he used it on others before and that he didn't use it on Onoki because he was holding back!
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
If it's in any way influenced by the Eternal Mangekyō, then it's an EMS technique. Since it has been implied to have been EMS Madara's full power, Perfect Susano'o is, at the very least, most likely a Susano'o enhanced by the final Sharingan dōjutsu.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by rikerslade
Because he used it against Hashirama. He only had EMS against Hashirama.
Madara and Hashirama fought countless times.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Anonymous Kid
cuz it is
 Originally Posted by Kages
:sy: It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:
 Originally Posted by shubzy123
OMG Re-Read the Manga, Madara awakened in AFTER awakening the RINNEGAN
:sy: All you people clearly didn't read the OP...he is saying that it isn't a new technique, it is just a higher form of Susanoo.
OT: I agree, people believing it was a different tech from the normal Susanoo in the first place is what made some think that it came from Rinnegan.
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Last edited by KidGamer65; 12-29-2012 at 11:17 PM.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by KidGamer65
:sy: All you people clearly didn't read the OP...he is saying that it isn't a new technique, it is just a higher form of Susanoo.
OT: I agree, people believing it was a different tech from the normal Susanoo in the first place is what made some think that it came from Rinnegan.
Thank You, at least someone read it!
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by KidGamer65
:sy: All you people clearly didn't read the OP...he is saying that it isn't a new technique, it is just a higher form of Susanoo.
OT: I agree, people believing it was a different tech from the normal Susanoo in the first place is what made some think that it came from Rinnegan.
True...why else would Itachi say "the user unlocks a new Technique" if it was Perfect Susanoo?...he could have just said "the user unlocks a Perfect form of Susanoo" since he also had a Susanoo.
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Last edited by FTG V2; 12-29-2012 at 11:21 PM.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Lightbringer
That's what I mean, Susanoo is an MS tech and PS is not a completely new tech for an EMS from what Itachi stated. It's like saying chakra mode is MS and bijuu mode is EMS.....it's just the mastery over the bijuu, same thing with Susanoo.
Hehe sorry too long for me to read :D
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by SasukeUchiha910
the OP is retarded :sy:
Did you read the OP, please tell me you read it otherwise you will look pretty foolish.
 Originally Posted by FTG V2
True...why else would Itachi say "the user unlocks a new Technique" if it was Perfect Susanoo...he could have just said "the user unlocks a perfect form of Susanoo" since he also had a Susanoo.
Exactly.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Kages
:sy: It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:
This x10
PS could be an EMS tech or even an MS tech, all we know is madara used PS before he unlocked the rinnegan, it might not be the new tech but it does come with sharingan
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Last edited by Draphsin; 12-29-2012 at 11:25 PM.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by SasukeUchiha910
the OP is retarded :sy:
How's that exactly?
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Draphsin
This x10
:sy: How many people are going to come in here w/o reading the OP? Are you attention spans that low that you can't even read a few short paragraphs?
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
I like your thoughts
But IMO i think PS is only for Madara, no one else could even master it like he could.
It is a godly Susanoo and Madara and Hashirama are gods in my eyes.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Kages
Hehe sorry too long for me to read :D
Then why did you reply if you didn't take the time to read my points?
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Lightbringer
Then why did you reply if you didn't take the time to read my points?
The title threw me off
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