Why don't people understand?

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

This thread will prove to you, the war for Mugen Tsukuyomi is not over some petty attachment or love for Rin.

How can someone who witnessed the death of his beloved, who obviously... had to be killed to serve a higher purpose.......

.............like and trust a man who carries out the same objective day after day, night after night, without hesitation or regrets?

If Obito had started this war over Rin, and the fact that she was killed for the protection of an entire Village, Obito would not have made Kisame his most trusted subordinate, because Kisame was someone who stood for that very ideal and protected it. Kisame carried out the same type of missions Kakashi had to complete by killing Rin that fateful day.

Obito's reason for subduing the world is much greater than that, and beyond the understanding of some people, mainly the one's calling him "emo", "*****made" and the one's saying he did it because of Rin.

I dont even fully understand him yet, Tobi is still very much a mystery to me.

Simplified for some: Obito is well over Rin, this war is not for her, but for a much higher purpose that makes him a most dangerous and very stable man.

When Obito said to Kakashi, "you let her die", he was replying to Kakashi's question on why he hadn't shown himself to him.

Kakashi: "So......you survived. THEN HOW COME UNTIL NOW...........you never said anything....?

Obito: "Because you let her die Kakashi(you broke your promise to me, you don't deserve to know)"

Kakashi: "Aren't you going to blame me?"

Obito: "It's pointless to blame you or this useless reality. I am not interested in a world that is about to disappear."


Seriously....why don't people get that there is a lot more going on here besides vengeance for lost love?

This war is meant to make the world a better place than the shitty world that exists today(in Obito's eyes).

I do not agree with that^ method, but I do understand the reasoning behind it. So can you guys please be mature....

[Kages]

Maybe

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

Maybe

WTH?? There's no way you read the thread already.

[~Supreme Itachi~]

itachi the god avatar?

good thread

[★BellaN]

I think I might actually agree with you on this

[dedtime6]

Why did kakasi (however you spell it ) kill rin tobegin with ?

[TruthLover19]

I do understand his reasoning and its not rin I think we discussed this topic like half hour ago.

[★Sir Derp Obito]

I'll explain this as simple as possible:

Rin dies, Obito cries, goes to Madara because she died, Madara offers Eye of the Moon Plan, Obito thought it got swag and off he ran, forming Akatsuki, capturing the Jinchuurikis, to revive the Juubi, to power up the Infinite Tsukoyomi, to be together forever with his biddy.

Even if Obito has tsukoyomi it is limited and the genjutsu will end when he's low on chakra meaning his illusionary paradise with Rin has a time limit, however with the Juubi providing infinite battery time to the Infinite Tsukoyomi, Obito can be together with Rin forever in a make-believe reality, the whole world is merely a casualty of his raging hormones.

[TruthLover19]

Why did kakasi (however you spell it ) kill rin tobegin with ?

We r not sure yet, but I am sure he had his reason

[★BellaN]

We r not sure yet and we aren't even sure if it was kakashi who killed her could've been zetsu

What?

[CrimsonIgnition]

Why did kakasi (however you spell it ) kill rin tobegin with ?

I think we are all wondering the same thing

[bladesofchaos360]

that sir is a no brainer, people just like to mess with obito.

[TruthLover19]

What?

Sorry :D what I meant to say was we don't know y he killed her but I am sure he had his reasons

[★BellaN]

Sorry :D what I meant to say was we don't know y he killed her but I am sure he had his reasons

Ohh lol, I thought you were serious about that :D

[Arugon]

I just think it's sad the way Kisame died, i mean really?? He had sooo much potential!! Why Kishi, Why?!

[celarian]

Wrong, completely wrong, if rin was revealed to be alive right this second and obito saw her with good proof that it was her, since he can use his sharingan to remember her chackra, he would not continue his plan.

I just think it's sad the way Kisame died, i mean really?? He had sooo much potential!! Why Kishi, Why?!

Because the akatuki is all he had, kishi didnt want obito to have to betray him, since he didnt the akatsuki anymore

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

itachi the god avatar?

good thread

Thanks

I think I might actually agree with you on this

Great! On to the next person!

Why did kakasi (however you spell it ) kill rin tobegin with ?

Obviously to protect something important, either knowledge about the Leaf or to save Rin from the assailants.

I do understand his reasoning and its not rin I think we discussed this topic like half hour ago.

Good!

I'll explain this as simple as possible:

Rin dies, Obito cries, goes to Madara because she died, Madara offers Eye of the Moon Plan, Obito thought it got swag and off he ran, forming Akatsuki, capturing the Jinchuurikis, to revive the Juubi, to power up the Infinite Tsukoyomi, to be together forever with his biddy.

Even if Obito has tsukoyomi it is limited and the genjutsu will end when he's low on chakra meaning his illusionary paradise with Rin has a time limit, however with the Juubi providing infinite battery time to the Infinite Tsukoyomi, Obito can be together with Rin forever in a make-believe reality, the whole world is merely a casualty of his hormonal rage.

You are very immature, why can't you wrap your head around this?

[★Sir Derp Obito]

Thanks

Great! On to the next person!

Obviously to protect something important, either knowledge about the Leaf or to save Rin from the assailants.

Good!


You are very immature, why can't you wrap your head around this?

Come now, it's no shame if Obito is doing all of this in the name of love. Lots of people do crazy things in love's name, why do you think King Henry VIII of England broke away from Rome and established the Church of England? because he wanted to marry his biddy Anne Boleyn the whole wars of religion started afterwards, people are sometimes merely casualties from the banal desires of powerful people.

[celarian]

Thanks

Great! On to the next person!

Obviously to protect something important, either knowledge about the Leaf or to save Rin from the assailants.

Good!


You are very immature, why can't you wrap your head around this?

Obito would stop if rin asked him to, if she was somehow revealed to be alive, and he could determine this, he wouldnt continue his plan.

[chopstickchakra]

WTH?? There's no way you read the thread already.

Why not? It only took two minutes to read.

[Animaeon]

Honestly, it's no use. The main reason why people refuse to look further is because they're disappointed with Kishi's choice. It's a common fact that when a person disagrees, they become unreasonable... even narrow-minded.

Personally, it's clear what Obito stands for and what he wishes to accomplish (this battle is the repeat of the younger brother (Naruto) vs older brother (Obito)), but I also wish there was more to Obito's flashbacks. We knew Rin's death was going to play a huge role, but it turned out to be the only event that changed him completely. Tobi himself is such a dynamic character, so I guess people expected to find out a list of twisted and sinister stuff, especially with Madara involved.

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

that sir is a no brainer, people just like to mess with obito.

How DO you mess with a non existent character?

I just think it's sad the way Kisame died, i mean really?? He had sooo much potential!! Why Kishi, Why?!

Cry me a river.

Wrong, completely wrong, if rin was revealed to be alive right this second and obito saw her with good proof that it was her, since he can use his sharingan to remember her chackra, he would not continue his plan.



Because the akatuki is all he had, kishi didnt want obito to have to betray him, since he didnt the akatsuki anymore

No bud, you're wrong. After seeing Rin die, Madara's words got through to him, and the pain of her death made him grow up.

[★BellaN]

Madara would probably make sure that shes dead so Obito cant change his mind about the plan :D

[The God of Wind -in detention-]

Come now, it's no shame if Obito is doing all of this in the name of love. Lots of people do crazy things in love's name, why do you think King Henry VIII of England broke away from Rome and established the Church of England? because he wanted to marry his biddy Anne Boleyn the whole wars of religion started afterwards, people are sometimes merely casualties from the banal desires of powerful people.

I have tried to reason this, now I am left with one option, WELCOME TO MY IGNORE LIST!! Enjoy your stay!

Why not? It only took two minutes to read.

He replied in 10 seconds.

Honestly, it's no use. The main reason why people refuse to look further is because they're disappointed with Kishi's choice. It's a common fact that when a person disagrees, they become unreasonable... even narrow-minded.

Personally, it's clear what Obito stands for and what he wishes to accomplish (this battle is the repeat of the younger brother (Naruto) vs older brother (Obito)), but even I wish there was more to Obito's flashbacks. We knew Rin's death was going to play a huge role, but it turned out to be the only event that changed him completely. Tobi himself is such a dynamic character, so I guess people expected to find out a list of twisted and sinister stuff, especially with Madara involved.

I am hoping against hope, I already know its futile.

[enuzuki]

I think you're reading into things. Madara thinks of other people as insects, so why does he want to end suffering? He doesn't really have to much motivation if you ask me. I guess he wants world domination? Kishimoto hasn't established much motivation for Obito or Madara.