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    I always said that Suarez is too good for Liverpool.

    Well, he had wine with Mou & tea with Pep, that's what I know Jokes apart, it doesn't sound bad to do 3 years at Bayern, then after Fergie retires in 3 years, he takes over. But for that, as you said, he needs not to fall in love with the beer and yes, he needs to be successful, otherwise, his stock will drop. Klopp v/s Pep would be awesome. Klopp, Conte, Pep ect... are great crop of coaches to succeed to the older classes.

    Give D.Alves a pair of gloves. If he dives like how he does when the opponent shoots, he'll stop 2-3 shots surely

    For me, Ibra's stats at Barca were always good enough. If he didn't succeed there, then I do think, it's mostly his incompatibility in Barca' philosophy and gameplan. As for Sanchez, well, he did score 2 goals in one of the match that he missed the open net, didn't he? He's not so bad, though, I guess, Messi's goals are covering his flaws.

    No, mid won't be equal. Spain's mid will remain highly superior in my eyes. But I do hope, that despite its improbability, that it do happens. If not, for WC 2014, then perhaps Euro2016 or WC2018. Though, by 2016-18, Xavi/Valdes/Puyol/Capdevilla ect... would be beyond their twilight years.
    lol if he goes...Liverpool are back at the bottom.

    They are good crop of coaches, but in todays time a lot of clubs are way too demanding other than perhaps United/Arsenal. Arsenal for obvious reasons and after SAF retires I can see the demands will be high for the next coach at United.

    The ball would hurt Alves...come on now lol

    Ibra had good stats, it was due to him not being able to connect to the system as well as his attitude in general. I mean Messi played well with Henry/Eto'o in 08/09, Henry 26 goals, Eto'o 36, and Messi 38. Eto'o didn't get a long with Pep and had problems in the back even Messi tried to convince Pep on letting Eto'o stay. As much as anyway may fuss over Alves/Busquets/Pedro for their dives, but Barcelona teaches respect/humility. Balotelli was there once too, but they got rid of him for obvious reason, as did Ibra. Even Brazilian Ronaldo. I mean his was to do more with contract, but did you know when he was 18-19 he was caught by they guard having sex in the locker room (with two girls) lol Dinho as well Barcelona could've kept him, but they didn't like his partying, late nights, etc and didn't want it to rub off on Messi who was great friends with him. Ibra didn't suit that, he complain, moans and demands thing. He even got mad at Messi/Xavi/Inesita because they listen to Pep...his words, ‘Messi, Xavi and Iniesta always obeyed without protest. They were like schoolboys. I am not like that. I couldn’t be myself.’ Purchasing Ibra was one of Pep biggest mistake the player we gave Eto'o and cash for him wasn't worth it. I mean hell Barcelona even rejected Mou who actually wanted the job because of the way he is. They asked him to change his way in the media, but he didn't want too and they appointed Pep.

    Yes, he did score two. At the bottom you pretty much highlighted it, its more of counting on those players to show up on days Messi doesn't. I mean honestly he probably has 4-6 bad games out of the 50 played. Chelsea/Madrid final Clasico were a result they learned to shut him down as fatigue also kicked in for him, if I'm not mistaken I think he did assist two goals in those 3 back to back fixtures.

    I mean to come to think of it in the long run yes, as they would have the better bench, but when i said it would be equal I was merely speaking of the starting line up.

    Xavi/Busi/Fabregas

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    Iniesta/Alonso/ either Mata/Silva/Cazorla

    Pique and Shakira also welcomes a baby boy. They named him Milan lol
     
         
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    lol if he goes...Liverpool are back at the bottom.

    They are good crop of coaches, but in todays time a lot of clubs are way too demanding other than perhaps United/Arsenal. Arsenal for obvious reasons and after SAF retires I can see the demands will be high for the next coach at United.

    The ball would hurt Alves...come on now lol

    Ibra had good stats, it was due to him not being able to connect to the system as well as his attitude in general. I mean Messi played well with Henry/Eto'o in 08/09, Henry 26 goals, Eto'o 36, and Messi 38. Eto'o didn't get a long with Pep and had problems in the back even Messi tried to convince Pep on letting Eto'o stay. As much as anyway may fuss over Alves/Busquets/Pedro for their dives, but Barcelona teaches respect/humility. Balotelli was there once too, but they got rid of him for obvious reason, as did Ibra. Even Brazilian Ronaldo. I mean his was to do more with contract, but did you know when he was 18-19 he was caught by they guard having sex in the locker room (with two girls) lol Dinho as well Barcelona could've kept him, but they didn't like his partying, late nights, etc and didn't want it to rub off on Messi who was great friends with him. Ibra didn't suit that, he complain, moans and demands thing. He even got mad at Messi/Xavi/Inesita because they listen to Pep...his words, ‘Messi, Xavi and Iniesta always obeyed without protest. They were like schoolboys. I am not like that. I couldn’t be myself.’ Purchasing Ibra was one of Pep biggest mistake the player we gave Eto'o and cash for him wasn't worth it. I mean hell Barcelona even rejected Mou who actually wanted the job because of the way he is. They asked him to change his way in the media, but he didn't want too and they appointed Pep.

    Yes, he did score two. At the bottom you pretty much highlighted it, its more of counting on those players to show up on days Messi doesn't. I mean honestly he probably has 4-6 bad games out of the 50 played. Chelsea/Madrid final Clasico were a result they learned to shut him down as fatigue also kicked in for him, if I'm not mistaken I think he did assist two goals in those 3 back to back fixtures.

    I mean to come to think of it in the long run yes, as they would have the better bench, but when i said it would be equal I was merely speaking of the starting line up.

    Xavi/Busi/Fabregas

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    Iniesta/Alonso/ either Mata/Silva/Cazorla

    Pique and Shakira also welcomes a baby boy. They named him Milan lol
    I'll light some crackers then

    Well, I think we could add Milan & Dortmund to that; along with United & Arsenal. Milan have really been strong-willed with Allegri. Personally, I would have sacked him by now. And I like how Klopp' rise slowly with club' backing. Speaking of backing, I think that's gonna be the sole challenge for Pep at Bayern Munich. He's going to fantastic club with great history, success, philosophy, stadium, fans, finance & even players. But Bayern is a club deeply connected with its legends like Gerd Müller, Franz Beckenbauer, Paul Breitner, Mehmet Scholl, Lothar Matthäus, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Giovane Elber, Oliver Kahn, Stefan Effenberg and so on...Most of them have more than just their say on how the team functions and plays and is managed. Pep will surely come there to instill his football culture. Hopefully, there isn't an ego clash.

    On a probability of 0.000001 %, he'll do an outstanding Scorpion save if he dives downwards successfully like he often does. Or perhaps, he'll hurt himself on the other probability. Imagine Alves with Cech-like helmet.

    My only issue was that with Ronaldinho and Eto'o, Barca's way of getting rid of them wasn't right. These are 2 players who contributed a lot to that club. Should have been treated as legends with much honorable farewell...

    Luckily, Messi doesn't get injured anymore. Even his knock in that CL match wasn't serious. But I get a feeling that all teams in CL are gonna treat Messi pretty roughly henceforth. Which, obviously, shouldn't come as a surprise.

    Well, yeah, if you count starting line-up but that being said, Spain will mostly play with 5 midfielders and 1 false 9.
    While Catalonia would more tend to be 3 mid, 1 false 9 & two attacking wingers in Tello/Cuenca/Bojan. So, Spain's mid will remain nearly unmatched. Especially, when you count the fact that those 5 midfielders will consist of likes like Alonso, Iniesta, Silva, Cazorla, Mata, Isco, Michu, Martinez ect...
     
         

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    I'll light some crackers then

    Well, I think we could add Milan & Dortmund to that; along with United & Arsenal. Milan have really been strong-willed with Allegri. Personally, I would have sacked him by now. And I like how Klopp' rise slowly with club' backing. Speaking of backing, I think that's gonna be the sole challenge for Pep at Bayern Munich. He's going to fantastic club with great history, success, philosophy, stadium, fans, finance & even players. But Bayern is a club deeply connected with its legends like Gerd Müller, Franz Beckenbauer, Paul Breitner, Mehmet Scholl, Lothar Matthäus, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Giovane Elber, Oliver Kahn, Stefan Effenberg and so on...Most of them have more than just their say on how the team functions and plays and is managed. Pep will surely come there to instill his football culture. Hopefully, there isn't an ego clash.

    On a probability of 0.000001 %, he'll do an outstanding Scorpion save if he dives downwards successfully like he often does. Or perhaps, he'll hurt himself on the other probability. Imagine Alves with Cech-like helmet.

    My only issue was that with Ronaldinho and Eto'o, Barca's way of getting rid of them wasn't right. These are 2 players who contributed a lot to that club. Should have been treated as legends with much honorable farewell...

    Luckily, Messi doesn't get injured anymore. Even his knock in that CL match wasn't serious. But I get a feeling that all teams in CL are gonna treat Messi pretty roughly henceforth. Which, obviously, shouldn't come as a surprise.

    Well, yeah, if you count starting line-up but that being said, Spain will mostly play with 5 midfielders and 1 false 9.
    While Catalonia would more tend to be 3 mid, 1 false 9 & two attacking wingers in Tello/Cuenca/Bojan. So, Spain's mid will remain nearly unmatched. Especially, when you count the fact that those 5 midfielders will consist of likes like Alonso, Iniesta, Silva, Cazorla, Mata, Isco, Michu, Martinez ect...
    Thats Pep challenge. Bayern have gone through 9 managers in the 13 years time frame, and him being an outsider won't be as easy as many think. Tho it'll be funny what he does with Robben lol Milan don't have the money now and Allegri isn't doing too bad. The only person Milan would change Allegri for was Pep. As Klopp he's doing well and under him Dortmund became this big, but the club has yet to reach the elite level of European football.

    Cech helmet...lol that'd be something to watch.

    I don't think many fans did like it, but thats the way the two big Spanish clubs are, Madrid did it with VdB, Zidane, Pellegrini, and Valdano. Eto'o was a great finisher and in my eye slightly better than Ibra. Dinho was magic overall, but as we saw his Milan performance, it would've been a waste of time with him. Maybe Pep could've gotten the most out of him, but I guess he anted to give Iniesta, Dinho role.

    Indeed. The reason why I want to see Sanchez/Pedro/Fabregas scoring more often. Even if Villa comes back and gets more time I would love to count on him.

    Yup that'd be a dangerous midfield. I still think Catalonia can put up a good fight the current side that is. Xavi/Busi/Fabregas would be key as our defence as well.

    What do you think of Hazard incident?
     
         

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    Breaking News: FC Barcelona has just signed 17 year old Swansea Ball boy on a 6 year deal

    "he could have killed the boy" SAF reaction about the Hazard incident
     
         

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    Breaking News: FC Barcelona has just signed 17 year old Swansea Ball boy on a 6 year deal

    "he could have killed the boy" SAF reaction about the Hazard incident
     
         

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    BREAKING NEWS or maybe not so much but anyways: topic!

    Ramos and Iker or Maorinho? rumor was dissmised by Perez. Same time Merca and AS are the biggest papers in Spain

    Basically translated as, if Mourinho is still manager of Real Madrid next season then several top players in the squad will request transfers.

    However, Perez has since reacted angrily to the Marca's claims by saying: 'Its totally false that there was an ultimatum from the players.

    'I understand some people want the coach or president out...but what has been published is a lie.

    'Ive only come here to deny an information.'

    Interestingly, the president did not move to support Mourinho's tenure at the club, and when asked to discuss the manager's relationship with the players he told reporters: 'Don't waste your time.'

    However, Casillas and Ramos are then reported to have informed the president that a dressing room meeting had been held without Mourinho and his coaching staff.

    They claimed that the team is totally committed and more united than ever, although that only includes the players.

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    LMAO breaking news: Marca had announced their war against Mourinho since long time ago ... *yawn*
     
         
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    LMAO breaking news: Marca had announced their war against Mourinho since long time ago ... *yawn*
    yea.. sure. And there's no problems in real madrid dressing room, take off your pink sunglasses
     
         

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    yea.. sure. And there's no problems in real madrid dressing room, take off your pink sunglasses
    of course there is, but its not that serious like how Marca make it out to be,heck even barca have a problem in their dressing room with Villa, take off your delusional sunglasses
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    of course there is, but its not that serious like how Marca make it out to be,heck even barca have a problem in their dressing room with Villa, take off your delusional sunglasses
    And you know how? :sy: rhetorical question . please dont answer

    Villas only problem is playing time you cant compare those two things... delusional sunglasses? lol
     
         

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    Well, in a 5 week time frame Madrid have to face Barcelona 3 times, United twice, and Barcelona face Milan twice.
     
         

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    This damn kid did dive, note kid is on the ball and that means that kids body is aprox 9 inch'es up. From this gif it's obvious that Hazard hit was very low and didn't hit him in the ribs.





    Quote Originally Posted by ReLax - View Post
    Well, in a 5 week time frame Madrid have to face Barcelona 3 times, United twice, and Barcelona face Milan twice.
    it's a 3'd or 4'th time Barcelona faces Milan? booooring!
     
         

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    Well it'll be there 5th and 6th meeting in slightly more than a year.

    The kid did over react, but either way it wasn't right what Hazard did and I'm sure he did have force in the kick, which did touch the kid and him being 17 years old isn't going to help Hazard. It'll die down tho.
     
         

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    And you know how? :sy: rhetorical question . please dont answer

    Villas only problem is playing time you cant compare those two things... delusional sunglasses? lol
    am not trying to compared it genius.....
    i just trying to tell you that every team has their own problem
     
         

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    am not trying to compared it genius.....
    i just trying to tell you that every team has their own problem
    LMAO, then why did you even started talking about that or what did you try'n to prove me ? That everything MARCA said is a lie and that there are other problems in other clubs? mixing obvious with your opinion, it's not a proven fact that story was true but if it is it's hell of a change for RM.
     
         

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    LMAO, then why did you even started talking about that or what did you try'n to prove me ? That everything MARCA said is a lie and that there are other problems in other clubs? mixing obvious with your opinion, it's not a proven fact that story was true but if it is it's hell of a change for RM.
    like i said earlier, Marca dislike Mourinho from the get go, even when Mou win the La Liga with style they don't say anything about that let alone praised him, Marca is a media version of Xavi if you know what i mean,

    so which one will you trust, the president or Marca ?
    its common sense really... every team has their own problem but if its Real Madrid they will make it out as if there is a World War...
    since Real Madrid is the most prestigious club in the world everything about them will be the Media "food".
     
         

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    Whats all this BS surrounding Mourinho,Sergio and Cassilias leaving the club. My a$$.Cassilias leaving Madrid? Impossible . He isnt RVP ( No hate Arsnel fans). Thats just stupid Marca.
    El Clasico yeah people! .When is it though ?
    Hazard kicks the ball boy. I would'nt blame him . His 17 he acts like a big man, Spoilt thing.Ball Boy is the next Busquets.
    Btw for El Clasico who will madrid be missing? People say Sergio Ramos but his 5 match ban is over ( Vs Getafe). Coentro will be missing but Marcelo is back yay
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    like i said earlier, Marca dislike Mourinho from the get go, even when Mou win the La Liga with style they don't say anything about that let alone praised him, Marca is a media version of Xavi if you know what i mean,

    so which one will you trust, the president or Marca ?
    its common sense really... every team has their own problem but if its Real Madrid they will make it out as if there is a World War...
    since Real Madrid is the most prestigious club in the world everything about them will be the Media "food".
    Yes I know all that but what your trying to prove in the first place I just posted the news lol, Iker and Ramos wont move this summer but I believe that Mou will, thats it

    Quote Originally Posted by IzunaUchiha2 View Post
    Whats all this BS surrounding Mourinho,Sergio and Cassilias leaving the club. My a$$.Cassilias leaving Madrid? Impossible . He isnt RVP ( No hate Arsnel fans). Thats just stupid Marca.
    El Clasico yeah people! .When is it though ?
    Hazard kicks the ball boy. I would'nt blame him . His 17 he acts like a big man, Spoilt thing.Ball Boy is the next Busquets.
    Btw for El Clasico who will madrid be missing? People say Sergio Ramos but his 5 match ban is over ( Vs Getafe). Coentro will be missing but Marcelo is back yay
    or new Di Maria or Christiano why not heh?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    like i said earlier, Marca dislike Mourinho from the get go, even when Mou win the La Liga with style they don't say anything about that let alone praised him, Marca is a media version of Xavi if you know what i mean,

    so which one will you trust, the president or Marca ?
    its common sense really... every team has their own problem but if its Real Madrid they will make it out as if there is a World War...
    since Real Madrid is the most prestigious club in the world everything about them will be the Media "food".
    Marca was over the top when Mou won CDR beating Barcelona and then the Liga. Even news channels in Catalonia send out their congratulations to Madrid and Mou when they won the league, quit with all this Mou VS he world crap.

    And their problem is worst then the rest ATM. Mou picks a fight with Madrid legend Casillas, he has problems with Ramos, as well as Ozil, Recently he had a go at CR and everyone saw that, nor did any teammate deny that fight they had. He kicked Valdano out of Madrid because Valdano didn't agree with his plans, he was responsible for Zidane exit, who also was against the way Madrid are playing under Mou and Di Stefano hasn't been impressed with their playing style. It speaks loud volumes.
     
         
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    Marca was over the top when Mou won CDR beating Barcelona and then the Liga. Even news channels in Catalonia send out their congratulations to Madrid and Mou when they won the league, quit with all this Mou VS he world crap.

    And their problem is worst then the rest ATM. Mou picks a fight with Madrid legend Casillas, he has problems with Ramos, as well as Ozil, Recently he had a go at CR and everyone saw that, nor did any teammate deny that fight they had. He kicked Valdano out of Madrid because Valdano didn't agree with his plans, he was responsible for Zidane exit, who also was against the way Madrid are playing under Mou and Di Stefano hasn't been impressed with their playing style. It speaks loud volumes.
    yeah, Marca is over the top, but it was for the Team/Club, they don't give a flying **** about Mou, and this season when Mou make some mistake they are the 1st one to jump to the Mou haters band wagoners, and started to pouring more pain into the team, by making false/unconfirmed incident, and how they over hype the conflict between Mou and other Madrid players,

    yeah Mou messed with Madrid Legend, but that doesn't mean the media have to blame him, after all Casillas has been poor after the EURO, just like when Pep messed with Dinho, yet the media don't pay to much attention on it,

    by the way that MOFO Valdano want to make another Mega transfer by getting Rooney,Bale and Ibra, that's why Mou don't agree with him, in the end he got kicked out,

    Zidane is different case, he was out because he want to concentrate on his coaching study, not because Mou,

    i wonder what so bad about Madrid style under Mou, they play some great football, they elaborate less and scored more than any team who claim to use Total attacking football style last season,
    their play is fine they way it is,

    IMO i could care less about how they play, as long as they win the end, and of course with fair play, and without the Ref help, and some dirty deeds such as diving and crowd the referee..........
     
         

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    No, they were happy for Mou and Madrid. Even Pique hit out at the media and defended Mou actually recently, by saying when he did things like poking Tito eye and winning the league you guys were all supporting him, but now all of sudden they decide to go against him.

    Dinho wanted to leave. Pep told Dinho to stayed and didn't want him to go to represent Brasil in Olympics. As far as I'm concerned Dinho asked for a transfer, but Barcelona didn't fight or attempt to keep him. Casillas has been poor, but your defence hasn't been any better in support. He was doing fine with Spain in the friendlies during the season.

    Valdano? Bale is still wanted by Madrid/Mou and I never heard of Rooney to Madrid. The closet rumour I heard was Rooney to Barcelona. Ibra wanted Madrid move and you guys wanted him, but Rosell didn't allow it.

    No, Zidane left because he knew Mou wasn't happy with him. Mou needed someone who supported him when he criticized the refs and Zidane didn't do that. If Zidane wanted to become a coach why not stick around Mou for a little longer and learn from him?

    There style is getting old. A few bad calls have taken some points from them and the players form have hurt them, but a lot of La Liga teams have figured them out. Madrid set a record indeed, but check this out.

    Madrid played Barcelona 6 times last season they won only once and that was 2-1, Barcelona beat them 3 times and had 2 draws. Their biggest challenge in CL was against Bayern and they eventually lost and Bayern was far from the best team. Madrid last season was the best team hands down, but as I've shown you when it came to playing bigger teams they struggled with that tactic.

    13-10 Barcelona outscored them
    3-3 they lost to Bayern in PK

    "IMO i could care less about how they play, as long as they win the end, and of course with fair play, and without the Ref help, and some dirty deeds such as diving and crowd the referee.........."

    If your trying to make an attempt at attacking Barcelona, than I'd say watch your step. Last season Madrid benefitted from a lot of calls, if you don't believe me check youtube out and you'll see some calls which benefitted them, infamously Higuain hand ball which disallowed a goal and they would've lost the game. Madrid are no saint and no better than Barcelona when it comes to diving/crowding the ref/cheating/etc. This has always been there with many clubs and thats a fact. Go type in Google, "Why do "insert club" cheat". You'll find people complaining about every club cheating Juventus/Milan/Inter with the match fixing scandals in Italy, Franco Madrid and UEFA Barcelona. FA United, as well as Chelsea etc. Every top teams have been accused of cheating. They all have benefitted from it.
     
         
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    No, they were happy for Mou and Madrid. Even Pique hit out at the media and defended Mou actually recently, by saying when he did things like poking Tito eye and winning the league you guys were all supporting him, but now all of sudden they decide to go against him.
    LOL nah, Pique was trying to blame Mou
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    Dinho wanted to leave. Pep told Dinho to stayed and didn't want him to go to represent Brasil in Olympics. As far as I'm concerned Dinho asked for a transfer, but Barcelona didn't fight or attempt to keep him. Casillas has been poor, but your defence hasn't been any better in support. He was doing fine with Spain in the friendlies during the season.
    yeah i know about that, but then again pep choose ignored him instead giving him a chance to regain his form,
    there is also Eto'o and Ibra incident with Pep,

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    Valdano? Bale is still wanted by Madrid/Mou and I never heard of Rooney to Madrid. The closet rumour I heard was Rooney to Barcelona. Ibra wanted Madrid move and you guys wanted him, but Rosell didn't allow it.
    well Valdano did want Bale and Rooney/Ibra for the team, but Mou think the current team is more than enough at that time,

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    No, Zidane left because he knew Mou wasn't happy with him. Mou needed someone who supported him when he criticized the refs and Zidane didn't do that. If Zidane wanted to become a coach why not stick around Mou for a little longer and learn from him?
    Nah, Mou have no reason to hate on Zidane, if there is a guy who hate Zidane it was Perez cause of the Makelele incident, why Zizou choose not to stay ? Because Madrid is not a place to learn, that's all there is to it,

    There style is getting old. A few bad calls have taken some points from them and the players form have hurt them, but a lot of La Liga teams have figured them out. Madrid set a record indeed, but check this out.

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    Madrid played Barcelona 6 times last season they won only once and that was 2-1, Barcelona beat them 3 times and had 2 draws. Their biggest challenge in CL was against Bayern and they eventually lost and Bayern was far from the best team. Madrid last season was the best team hands down, but as I've shown you when it came to playing bigger teams they struggled with that tactic.

    13-10 Barcelona outscored them
    3-3 they lost to Bayern in PK
    Bayern was far from the best team at that time ? you've gotta be kidding me...
    so what you called Chelsea ?

    Madrid did Lose to Barca more but most of that lose is controversial, except the 5-0 massacre

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    "IMO i could care less about how they play, as long as they win the end, and of course with fair play, and without the Ref help, and some dirty deeds such as diving and crowd the referee.........."

    If your trying to make an attempt at attacking Barcelona, than I'd say watch your step. Last season Madrid benefitted from a lot of calls, if you don't believe me check youtube out and you'll see some calls which benefitted them, infamously Higuain hand ball which disallowed a goal and they would've lost the game. Madrid are no saint and no better than Barcelona when it comes to diving/crowding the ref/cheating/etc. This has always been there with many clubs and thats a fact. Go type in Google, "Why do "insert club" cheat". You'll find people complaining about every club cheating Juventus/Milan/Inter with the match fixing scandals in Italy, Franco Madrid and UEFA Barcelona. FA United, as well as Chelsea etc. Every top teams have been accused of cheating. They all have benefitted from it.
    its so easy to push your button isn't it ? LMAO
    just because i mention Diving and Crowd the referee, that doesn't mean i tried to attack Barca, i merely point out some obvious controversy that surround the Football world,

    but the the ironic thing is, Barca fans accusing other team for cheating Et cetera, is beyond ridiculous or is something what will you called Hypocrisy ?

    Madrid are no saint ? yes
    they are no better than Barca when it comes to diving/crowding the ref/cheating/etc ? No ****, the world will never forget Stamford bridge 2009, despite how UEFA tried to covered it up......
     
         

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    I think you lack reading comprehension. He merely spoke of how funny it is the media/fans supported him when he poke Tito and was winning. Now when he he's losing, he benches Iker, they want his head. This is what two Madrid fans wrote in the comment section.

    "As a Madrid fan, Pique's comments are NOT anti-Madrid. He's right. Mou should have been suspended for poking Tito in the eye. That being said, Pique is admitting that the media says literally NOTHING negative about Barca and EVERYTHING negative about Madrid. At the end of the day, these guys don't hate each other as much as the media has made it. You're just watching the two best coaches and teams put on mouth-watering football week in and week out. Just enjoy."

    "Yeah never felt like pique was directing his rant towards Madrid. More towards the media & fans, which I'm afraid he's 100% right. It's been puzzling how in the span of 5 months their stand has completely changed"


    He didn't ignore Dinho. It was Dinho who didn't listen to Pep and ignored it. Eto'o/Ibra were two different situations.

    Bale wasn't even that big at the time. Rooney wasn't wanted by everyone when he was supposedly unhappy at United. Ibra never really heard of that.

    I didn't say he hated Zidane. I simply implied because Zidane didn't support him when he spoke of refs being against Madrid. He didn't want him around and wanted someone like himself who can complain to the media and support his claims.

    Chelsea was sh!t. Last season Madrid was better than Barca in terms of consistency. There is no excuse for Barca either, but as I said Madrid were the best team that year. They were better than Barca/Bayern/Chelsea as a team.

    5-0 happened in 2010-2011 season. I'm speaking of 2011-2012 season and as far as I'm concerned I don't think a single red card being handed out that season except in the Espana cup after Marcelo hacked Fabregas in the 90th minute

    You didn't actually push my bottom at all.

    Hypocrisy? The only time I accuse others of it is in retaliation. Either way I don't represent the rest of the Barcelona fans. What is hypocrisy is however when supporters from other clubs who sides have dived, won games thru ref decision, crowd the ref, but yet call Barcelona cheaters when they have won like this too or tried to, that is ironic and defines hypocrisy.

    Yes, they won't forget the 2009 incident, as Australia won't forget how Italy dived for a PK and the ref gave it to them in 2006 WC for them to advance in KO stages when the game was going to ET, and how France won't forget what the Italians did in the final. Argentina won't forget what 90 WC final. Netherlands won't forget the 74 WC final. Barcelona won't forget Franco Madrid. All English clubs won't forget FA United. The world won't forget the match fixing scandals surrounded around all Italian clubs, etc. I must say indeed your right no one will forget these.
     
         
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    I think you lack reading comprehension. He merely spoke of how funny it is the media/fans supported him when he poke Tito and was winning. Now when he he's losing, he benches Iker, they want his head. This is what two Madrid fans wrote in the comment section.
    meh, it looks to me that Pique were saying all Mou action before that is over looked by the Association and Media,
    and then he said in other way Madrid were favored by the association and the media

    "Now Mourinho has picked on [Iker] Casillas, threatened a journalist, and people are criticising him. Mourinho has always been like this, ever since he arrived. And he got away with everything."

    supporting Mou ? i don't think so
    in other way he was trying to stated Madrid were favored by the association and the media

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    He didn't ignore Dinho. It was Dinho who didn't listen to Pep and ignored it. Eto'o/Ibra were two different situations.
    then why Pep try to convince him ? it looks to me that Pep just let Dino talent got wasted,
    i mean Pep did do a lot things for Messi and turn him into the best player in the world, yet he don't give a flying ****/effort for Dinho, maybe because he's not from La masia.........

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    Bale wasn't even that big at the time. Rooney wasn't wanted by everyone when he was supposedly unhappy at United. Ibra never really heard of that.
    nah, Bale is already a huge talent back then when he troll Maicon in the CL, and Valdano wanted him in the team,
    am pretty sure i read an article about Madrid wanted Rooney for the team, same goes with Ibra.

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    I didn't say he hated Zidane. I simply implied because Zidane didn't support him when he spoke of refs being against Madrid. He didn't want him around and wanted someone like himself who can complain to the media and support his claims.
    as if Butragueno support Mou claim about the referee(which is right cause when Mou complain about the referee, he got some valid point), surely that's not the case, i would rather trust what Zidane said than unconfirmed rumor spread by the media

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    Chelsea was sh!t. Last season Madrid was better than Barca in terms of consistency. There is no excuse for Barca either, but as I said Madrid were the best team that year. They were better than Barca/Bayern/Chelsea as a team.
    don't tell me you still mad about Chelsea beating Barca in the semi then goes to win the CL :D
    let it go dude, even i already forgot when Spain trashed Italy in the Euro and Barca beating Madrid 5-0,
    it was a fair game,

    idk but i still think that Barca is better than Madrid last year, they just unlucky when it comes to important matches
    having said that the best team don't always win......

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    5-0 happened in 2010-2011 season. I'm speaking of 2011-2012 season and as far as I'm concerned I don't think a single red card being handed out that season except in the Espana cup after Marcelo hacked Fabregas in the 90th minute
    yeah my bad..... but that lose is close, it shows that Madrid are starting to close the gap against barca and its proven by them beating Barca at camp nou and super coppa

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    You didn't actually push my bottom at all.
    oh yes i did, look at down there.....
    you mad, you even mention Italy LMAO

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    Hypocrisy? The only time I accuse others of it is in retaliation. Either way I don't represent the rest of the Barcelona fans. What is hypocrisy is however when supporters from other clubs who sides have dived, won games thru ref decision, crowd the ref, but yet call Barcelona cheaters when they have won like this too or tried to, that is ironic and defines hypocrisy.
    retaliation ? what for ? i never mention about Barca being cheaters(cause everyone know that already jk ) in my previous post,
    i just point out some controversy that surround the football world, its you who got agitated because you think i was talking about Barca while am not :shrug:

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    Yes, they won't forget the 2009 incident, as Australia won't forget how Italy dived for a PK and the ref gave it to them in 2006 WC for them to advance in KO stages when the game was going to ET, and how France won't forget what the Italians did in the final. Argentina won't forget what 90 WC final. Netherlands won't forget the 74 WC final. Barcelona won't forget Franco Madrid. All English clubs won't forget FA United. The world won't forget the match fixing scandals surrounded around all Italian clubs, etc. I must say indeed your right no one will forget these.
    The Aussie won't remember anything cause nothing actually happened

    the tackle that Lucas does on Fabio from every angle shows how intentional it was :D

    what happen with France ? Malouda dive his way to get an early Penalty, that was against the rules,
    Matrix proveke Zidane ? not against the rules but it was despicable act by Matrix, but then again it happens all the time.

    about match fixing, i heard it also exist in La liga, you read that article yes ?
     
         

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