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    Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    This is going back a little bit. I was re-reading some of the old manga back from before the time skip and I have a few questions about things. A couple bits of the story aren't adding up, and I'm wondering if it's just a mistake from the Manga or if I am missing something.

    Tl;DR, here's the short version: Jinchuuriki are important weapons for the village, and other villages train Jinchuuriki for that purpose. Naruto didn't know the fox was inside him, didn't know how to use it, wasn't trained how to control it, and wasn't treated like a weapon by the village. Instead, he was ignored and avoided, a strategy that would most likely have turned him into a monster and a criminal. The hidden leaf, despite having the most experience with tailed beasts, didn't know how to train Naruto to control the Fox, and was doing a terrible job.

    We know that Jinchuuriki from most villages are considered weapons or deterrents. Gaara, for example, was given the 1-tails as a baby because the Kazekage wanted him to become a weapon for the village. Same with the hidden cloud village, where Bee was given the 8-tails to be a weapon for the village. Similar stories are told about some of the other Jinchuuriki as well: Most of them are treated as weapons. In the hidden cloud village, we know that this was common, that the sidekick of the raikage was usually a specially-selected jinchuuriki. But in the Leaf village Mito and Kushina were selected as Jinchuuriki because they had seals and special chakra to suppress the fox, not because they were great ninja or were going to be weapons. They were vessels, not weapons.

    If there is a war, it would seem like the jinchuuriki would have played a big part of it. Maybe the leaf village didn't need to use the Fox as a weapon, because any powerful Uchiha would have been able to suppress the jinchuuriki from other villages (We see Madara and pre-MS sasuke both be able to do this, so other Uchiha might be able to also). However, after the massacre of the Uchiha, the Leaf village wouldn't have had that advantage. It would have been more important to train a powerful jinchuuriki, not less important. Naruto would have become the most important weapon in the village, and a big part of their war plans and defense strategy.

    And if the Mito and Kushina were used as weapons, why wasn't Naruto? He didn't even know the Fox was inside him until the beginning of the Manga. He accidentally unlocked the power on the bridge during the fight with Zabuza, and he didn't learn to use the power on demand until his training with Jiraya during the Chinuun exams. Gaara already seemed to be very familiar with the 1-tails during the Chinuun exams, but Naruto didn't even learn the basics until the month before the finals. If Jinchuuriki are so powerful and so important, and are used as strategic weapons by the villages, why didn't Naruto learn about it earlier, and why wasn't he trained to use it better as a matter of national security? During the final match between Naruto and Neji, the 3rd Hokage was surprised to see that Naruto was able to use the power at all, so it clearly wasn't part of the plan. You would think that the Hokage would play an active role in Naruto's development, training him to control and use the power of the fox, and help build him into a powerful weapon for the village. Instead, it seemed like the plan was for everybody to ignore Naruto and avoid him. As Naruto himself says, he could have grown up into a monster like Gaara was becoming, because of the way he was ignored and avoided. In the Hidden cloud Village, Bee was treated as a hero, and a sidekick to the Raikage when he was still young.

    Another question I have is why Nobody in the hidden leaf village seemed to know anything about training a Jinchuuriki or how to control the power of the tailed beast. If Hashirama used to own several of the tailed beasts, and if the hidden leaf had been using and training Mito and Kushina as jinchuuriki weapons, why didn't the hidden leaf ninjas know how to train Naruto to control the fox? Why did Naruto have to learn these things from Bee in the hidden cloud? Maybe all the people who knew these secrets died. Kushina died before she could have shared the secrets of training with other jinchuuriki. The 4th hokage also died early. But, that doesn't explain why Jiraya couldn't have taught some more of the details to Naruto, unless Jiraya didn't know it either. Also, I find it hard to believe that Tsunade didn't know how to do it if she was related to Mito and knew Kushina. Plus, as Hokage, Tsunade would have had access to hidden and forbidden written records from the first and second hokages about the topic. Even after the death of Jiraya, she didn't play any role in helping to train Naruto, even though she didn't have much time to do it.

    If most of the tailed beasts were owned by Hashirama in the past, then the Hidden Leaf village with Hashirama's experience should have been the most knowledgable, but they weren't. Other villages had much more experience with the beasts. The hidden sand village and the hidden cloud village both had methods for determining host compatibility, and both of those villages experimented with using multiple hosts to create weapons. The hidden rain and hidden stone villages had multiple jinchuuriki each as well, and intended for their jinchuuriki to be used as weapons too.

    So, my questions are these: Why wasn't Naruto trained to be a weapon like almost all other Jinchuuriki were? Why wasn't he told about the Fox and taught how to control it? Why didn't the 3rd Hokage play more of a role in helping him to get trained, like other kages in other villages did with their jinchuuriki? Why did the hidden leaf village seem to know so little about how to control the tailed beast and how to use its power? It seems like Naruto has had to learn a lot of this stuff on his own, which doesn't make sense if he is a weapon and an important deterrent for war.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    dude, that was toooooo much to read, and naruto wasnt trained to be a weapon because the third hokage was a nice guy and he didnt want to use naruto as a weapon. he wasnt told about the fox because they didnt want him to dwell on it and not be a normal kid? (even thought that plan kinda failed)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    Nobody liked him, the 4th wanted him to be normal and the 3rd did too.

    THe villagers hated him and literally wanted him to get lost, they would of started a riot if they wanted to use an annoying kid as a weapon
     
         

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    Because the fox is much harder than the others to tame, i think , they didn't believe naruto could control it this well
     
         

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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by kaka96 View Post
    Because the fox is much harder than the others to tame, i think , they didn't believe naruto could control it this well
    naruto can't control the fox he simply is sucking his chakra , that's all
     
         

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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    Nobody liked him, the 4th wanted him to be normal and the 3rd did too.

    THe villagers hated him and literally wanted him to get lost, they would of started a riot if they wanted to use an annoying kid as a weapon
    But that doesn't make any sense. Who cares if they like him as a person or not. He's a strategic necessity. Most other villages use jinchuuriki like war slaves. Look at how Bee tried to fake his own death in order to get a vacation. Look at how the Kazekage tried to assassinate gaara, his own son, for failing to control the 1-tail. Jinchuuriki are tools of war, and are not treated very well. If Naruto is annoying, who cares, because he didn't need to be treated well either.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by kaka96 View Post
    Because the fox is much harder than the others to tame, i think , they didn't believe naruto could control it this well
    This also doesn't make sense. Jiraya did try to teach him to control the power during the chinuun exams. He just didn't teach him everything. Naruto could control the fox into the 2-tailed forms, and could have been trained to do more. They didn't even try.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by ama883 View Post
    naruto can't control the fox he simply is sucking his chakra , that's all
    I know that's why I said this well, implying that it isn't perfect since he did kinda cage him up it's a partial control to me
    Sorry it wasn't clear
     
         

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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteknight View Post
    This also doesn't make sense. Jiraya did try to teach him to control the power during the chinuun exams. He just didn't teach him everything. Naruto could control the fox into the 2-tailed forms, and could have been trained to do more. They didn't even try.
    okay that's an easy one :D
    When Naruto goes beyond 3 tail the shrouding chakra hurts him and when he goes back to normal he gets in an accelerated healing process as stated by J-Man and this cycle will undoubtedly shorten his life span
    the more tails are appeared, the more the fox has control over him thus increasing the chance of an additional tail(like when he nearly killed J-Man in training) to appear so beyond using just it's chakra or the first tail, it becomes dangerous for both Naruto and the people around him
    Edit: actually even with one tail the chakra hurts him like vs Sasuke in the valley of the end, it just takes more time
     
         
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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by kaka96 View Post
    okay that's an easy one :D
    When Naruto goes beyond 3 tail the shrouding chakra hurts him and when he goes back to normal he gets in an accelerated healing process as stated by J-Man and this cycle will undoubtedly shorten his life span
    the more tails are appeared, the more the fox has control over him thus increasing the chance of an additional tail(like when he nearly killed J-Man in training) to appear so beyond using just it's chakra or the first tail, it becomes dangerous for both Naruto and the people around him
    That doesn't explain why they didn't do the training. Sage mode training has the risk of death by petrification, and Naruto did that training too. Plus, the chakra cloak mode that Bee taught him how to control doesn't have any of those life-span effects, and Jiraya didn't teach Naruto how to do that either. He Jiraya knew how to do the chakra cloak thing, why didn't he teach that to Naruto? Or, if Naruto wasn't ready for it, why didn't he tell him about it so Naruto could be prepared later? When Jiraya died, Naruto didn't know anything about training for the fox. He didn't know what to do next, what to learn next, where to go, etc. The Frog sage had to give Naruto a riddle about it.

    Naruto was only dangerous in those modes because he hadn't learned to Control the power. More training would have given him more control. That's how Bee learned it. Naruto could have learned it too, but Jiraya didn't teach him. I want to know why.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    Nobody liked him, the 4th wanted him to be normal and the 3rd did too.

    THe villagers hated him and literally wanted him to get lost, they would of started a riot if they wanted to use an annoying kid as a weapon
    this
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteknight View Post
    That doesn't explain why they didn't do the training. Sage mode training has the risk of death by petrification, and Naruto did that training too. Plus, the chakra cloak mode that Bee taught him how to control doesn't have any of those life-span effects, and Jiraya didn't teach Naruto how to do that either. He Jiraya knew how to do the chakra cloak thing, why didn't he teach that to Naruto? Or, if Naruto wasn't ready for it, why didn't he tell him about it so Naruto could be prepared later? When Jiraya died, Naruto didn't know anything about training for the fox. He didn't know what to do next, what to learn next, where to go, etc. The Frog sage had to give Naruto a riddle about it.

    Naruto was only dangerous in those modes because he hadn't learned to Control the power. More training would have given him more control. That's how Bee learned it. Naruto could have learned it too, but Jiraya didn't teach him. I want to know why.
    J-Man could not possibly know how to do the 9-tail chakra cloak like Bee taught him, that's just not possible and for sage mode, he had all the pre-required stuff (lots of chakra, guts to never give up, plus they had that staff that takes out nature energy out of the body) it was as well the only chance they had against Pain that's why they took the chance (With the staff, the biggest risk being not learning fast enough...) While taking control over Kyubi is not only dangerous for Naruto but for everyone else in the village. If it was to fail and let the fox rampage, like it would have done without Kushina's intervention, it would have meant big trouble
     
         

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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    I think you've answered most of your own questions. This is covered a bit of this during the Pain arc, when Naruto is about to remove the final seal and unleash the Nine Tails and additional details is provided by Kushina when Naruto is learning to control the Kyuubi.

    When the Nine Tails had been removed from Kushina and was under Madara's control, Minato fought with Madara and sealed the Nine Tails within Naruto. While on the rampage the Nine Tails wiped out most of the village. Minato figured that Hiruzen knew that whoever it was that seized control of the Nine Tails would attempt it again and felt that it was better to conceal the Nine Tails Jinchuuriki. This is why nobody, including Naruto knew that Minato was Naruto's father. Upon the Akatsuki learning that Naruto was the Nine Tails Jinchuuriki, Jiraiya immediately began prepping Naruto to defend himself (rasengan), and served as a personal bodyguard, knowing that Naruto would be their target. As to why he wasn't trained by Hiruzen, Hiruzen was a very high profile person and it would have been noticed. You'll notice that for the other villages the Akatsuki didn't have as much trouble identifying those folks...
     
         
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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by lowestcomdenom View Post
    I think you've answered most of your own questions. This is covered a bit of this during the Pain arc, when Naruto is about to remove the final seal and unleash the Nine Tails and additional details is provided by Kushina when Naruto is learning to control the Kyuubi.

    When the Nine Tails had been removed from Kushina and was under Madara's control, Minato fought with Madara and sealed the Nine Tails within Naruto. While on the rampage the Nine Tails wiped out most of the village. Minato figured that Hiruzen knew that whoever it was that seized control of the Nine Tails would attempt it again and felt that it was better to conceal the Nine Tails Jinchuuriki. This is why nobody, including Naruto knew that Minato was Naruto's father. Upon the Akatsuki learning that Naruto was the Nine Tails Jinchuuriki, Jiraiya immediately began prepping Naruto to defend himself (rasengan), and served as a personal bodyguard, knowing that Naruto would be their target. As to why he wasn't trained by Hiruzen, Hiruzen was a very high profile person and it would have been noticed. You'll notice that for the other villages the Akatsuki didn't have as much trouble identifying those folks...
    I still believe in my explanations but I see a lot of truth in yours too, it's probably a mix of both
     
         

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    wow LONG THREAD
     
         

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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    I think the reason why Naruto wasn't developed as a weapon, in the beginning of the manga, was because he was still too young at first. But things played out as they did mostly because of Sarutobi's personal character. He wasn't the type of person that would treat a person like a weapon.

    Anyway, Naruto's role as a jinchuuriki was eventually established and attempts were made to develop him as such after Tsunade became Hokage.
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    p.s. For the life of me, I cant remember whether the following happened in a filler or not, but this should be a significant bit of information if it were really part of the manga story line.

    I remember that in one of the Anime episodes Sarutobi and the other jounins were busy allocating the genin into the teams we came to know. Danzo was spying on the meeting in which he overheard that Naruto and Sasuke were both on Kakashi's team. Danzo then made a remark that implied the following:

    - Danzo assumed that Sasuke (along with his potential Sharingan) was intended to be a safeguard against the Kyuubi(Naruto).

    If this is true, then Sarutobi must have taken Naruto's future development as a jinchuuriki into account when he created Team 7 and then also obviously created Team 7 around Naruto. With Kakashi aiding in the development of Sasuke's sharingan until Sasuke could be used to fulfill a similar role to what Yamato presently plays in Naruto's training.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    I think the answer to your question is pretty obvious.Times have changed in the naruto universe,especially in konoha,gone are the days where comrades were left behind if they compromised a mission.Kinda like a new school of thought(promoted by the third and fourth hokage) where being human is more important than a shinobi.You see people like gaara's dad regretting using gaara as a tool,and the third hokage didn't want naruto to be weapon, hence the seal.They wanted him to make his choices later on,and not ruin him by making him into a machine.

    all of this would have changed if danzo was a kage.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by lowestcomdenom View Post
    I think you've answered most of your own questions. This is covered a bit of this during the Pain arc, when Naruto is about to remove the final seal and unleash the Nine Tails and additional details is provided by Kushina when Naruto is learning to control the Kyuubi.

    When the Nine Tails had been removed from Kushina and was under Madara's control, Minato fought with Madara and sealed the Nine Tails within Naruto. While on the rampage the Nine Tails wiped out most of the village. Minato figured that Hiruzen knew that whoever it was that seized control of the Nine Tails would attempt it again and felt that it was better to conceal the Nine Tails Jinchuuriki. This is why nobody, including Naruto knew that Minato was Naruto's father. Upon the Akatsuki learning that Naruto was the Nine Tails Jinchuuriki, Jiraiya immediately began prepping Naruto to defend himself (rasengan), and served as a personal bodyguard, knowing that Naruto would be their target. As to why he wasn't trained by Hiruzen, Hiruzen was a very high profile person and it would have been noticed. You'll notice that for the other villages the Akatsuki didn't have as much trouble identifying those folks...
    Very good
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteknight View Post
    That doesn't explain why they didn't do the training. Sage mode training has the risk of death by petrification, and Naruto did that training too. Plus, the chakra cloak mode that Bee taught him how to control doesn't have any of those life-span effects, and Jiraya didn't teach Naruto how to do that either. He Jiraya knew how to do the chakra cloak thing, why didn't he teach that to Naruto? Or, if Naruto wasn't ready for it, why didn't he tell him about it so Naruto could be prepared later? When Jiraya died, Naruto didn't know anything about training for the fox. He didn't know what to do next, what to learn next, where to go, etc. The Frog sage had to give Naruto a riddle about it.

    Naruto was only dangerous in those modes because he hadn't learned to Control the power. More training would have given him more control. That's how Bee learned it. Naruto could have learned it too, but Jiraya didn't teach him. I want to know why.
    because they wanted him to use his own strength and not rely on the fox if he just used the foxs power all time time he would never have been truly strong and never understood the will of fire
     
         

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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by lowestcomdenom View Post
    I think you've answered most of your own questions. This is covered a bit of this during the Pain arc, when Naruto is about to remove the final seal and unleash the Nine Tails and additional details is provided by Kushina when Naruto is learning to control the Kyuubi.

    When the Nine Tails had been removed from Kushina and was under Madara's control, Minato fought with Madara and sealed the Nine Tails within Naruto. While on the rampage the Nine Tails wiped out most of the village. Minato figured that Hiruzen knew that whoever it was that seized control of the Nine Tails would attempt it again and felt that it was better to conceal the Nine Tails Jinchuuriki. This is why nobody, including Naruto knew that Minato was Naruto's father. Upon the Akatsuki learning that Naruto was the Nine Tails Jinchuuriki, Jiraiya immediately began prepping Naruto to defend himself (rasengan), and served as a personal bodyguard, knowing that Naruto would be their target. As to why he wasn't trained by Hiruzen, Hiruzen was a very high profile person and it would have been noticed. You'll notice that for the other villages the Akatsuki didn't have as much trouble identifying those folks...
    Sounds good, conceal his identify from madara then jiraya protected and trained him after that, the 3rd and other were taught the way the 1st was and not like the other villages who used the tailed beasts like weapons they had successful hosts because they were loved unlike the weapon ones like gaara who hated their villages and failed.

    I bet naruto would be great with wind and his 2nd element ( water ) if hiruzen had trained him from infancy and up.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto as Jinchuuriki - Questions

    I really believe that Hiruzen was doing his best to look after Naruto without being too conspicuous about it. When you think about the caliber of Sensei he picked to mentor Naruto he was stacking the deck for him. Remember that both Jiraiya and Kakashi could create the rasengan. That's not a coincidence. It amazed Bee since it's the perfect training to create a Tailed Beast Bomb. Each level of training to achieve Rasengan became exponentially harder, so you can expect the same with Tailed Beast Bomb but the basics are what Jiraiya showed Naruto and as anyone will tell you good foundations are an essential part of learning.

    I also think Hiruzen would have been a great Sensei to Naruto as well but I think he knew where he was needed and also knew that he had a strong group of Instructor's who he could trust to get the job done. Naruto is important but still not more important than the entire village.
     
         
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    Most definitely the elders of Konoha, IO mean, the whole town are a bunch of retards!
    Hey you should head there and teach them what`s good for ninja war strategies!!
     
         

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    I think the reason why Naruto wasn't developed as a weapon, in the beginning of the manga, was because he was still too young at first. But things played out as they did mostly because of Sarutobi's personal character. He wasn't the type of person that would treat a person like a weapon.

    Anyway, Naruto's role as a jinchuuriki was eventually established and attempts were made to develop him as such after Tsunade became Hokage.
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    p.s. For the life of me, I cant remember whether the following happened in a filler or not, but this should be a significant bit of information if it were really part of the manga story line.

    I remember that in one of the Anime episodes Sarutobi and the other jounins were busy allocating the genin into the teams we came to know. Danzo was spying on the meeting in which he overheard that Naruto and Sasuke were both on Kakashi's team. Danzo then made a remark that implied the following:

    - Danzo assumed that Sasuke (along with his potential Sharingan) was intended to be a safeguard against the Kyuubi(Naruto).

    If this is true, then Sarutobi must have taken Naruto's future development as a jinchuuriki into account when he created Team 7 and then also obviously created Team 7 around Naruto. With Kakashi aiding in the development of Sasuke's sharingan until Sasuke could be used to fulfill a similar role to what Yamato presently plays in Naruto's training.
    touchdown I remember that too..

    he did say something as a sharingan is strong against a kyubi:D:D:D
     
         

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    One point i would like to add jman and hiruzen who knew naruto's origin wouldnt have wanted hm to be a weapon.because he was minato's son.bt once hiruzen died and akatsuki appeared jman did try to teach hm the powers of jinchuriki.bt he realised after four tails the kyuubi wil take over.and only cloud shinobies could perfectly tame their beasts
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowestcomdenom View Post
    I really believe that Hiruzen was doing his best to look after Naruto without being too conspicuous about it. When you think about the caliber of Sensei he picked to mentor Naruto he was stacking the deck for him. Remember that both Jiraiya and Kakashi could create the rasengan. That's not a coincidence. It amazed Bee since it's the perfect training to create a Tailed Beast Bomb. Each level of training to achieve Rasengan became exponentially harder, so you can expect the same with Tailed Beast Bomb but the basics are what Jiraiya showed Naruto and as anyone will tell you good foundations are an essential part of learning.

    I also think Hiruzen would have been a great Sensei to Naruto as well but I think he knew where he was needed and also knew that he had a strong group of Instructor's who he could trust to get the job done. Naruto is important but still not more important than the entire village.
    Exactly. althought I would like to add, they also figured they rather try to train him as a regular shinobi first before he wass thought to use the kyuubi's power. So he wouldn't rely on it.
     
         

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