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    strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the world

    I know this title sounds strange (and it ended to be a long tekst to )but just bear with me for a moment.
    this story is all about breaking the cicle of hate, now in a normal shinobi war there are 2 or more sides with shinobi from the villages and country's involved. they all have their names, history's and reasons for fighting. in turn this means that when a shinobi kills another shinobi then the people that loved him will most likly (according to the cicle of hate) start hating that shinobi and want to take revenge. at the end of a normal war people are left in suffering on both sides, and on both sides there are survivors that start hating the other side for the murders that happend.

    now to show why it's different from this war that madara started. and a quick look at madara's army should make it clear. it consits of plant clones made by zetsu and was added by dead shinobi from the past by kabuto. so basicly this is a 3 man army. madara, zetsu and kabuto are facing the world. and madara alwais intended it this way (at least himself and zetsu, he got lucky with kabuto joining him, for now)
    now it might not have been his intention but this means that the focus of all the hatred that comes from the result of this war will be directed to madara, zetsu and kabuto. lets have a look at these three:

    1) we know madara is ancient and has no family anymore, also he is seen as a major criminal, no one in his own village still cares for him. there is no one to hate the killer if madara gets killed
    2) zetsu is a plant, we don't know his origins but I suspect that he aswel is an ancient person that managed to survive thanks to madara and the experiments with the firsts cells. I belive that madara actualy made zetsu by transforming one of his allies with the firsts cells. if this is so then zetsu also has no one who cares for him. he is big in numbers but weak, so I suspect he is going to be killed also. and with no one to care for him the hate also ends there.
    3) last one, kabuto. kabuto's origins are also unknown, he was addopted into the leaf but deflected, he has become a major criminal and now by resurecting dead shinobi for the war has also attracted hatred from the shinobi world for discrasing the dead. he only had orochimaru as someone who might have cared for him, this is unsure since both oro and kabuto have always hidden their true feelings. so with kabuto dead that's also a cirlce of hate that comes to a conclusion.

    since the army is built up of these three people with this kind of background, if they get defeated that will be the end of the hatred. so as I said, madara never intended to attain peace in this way (he wants to use his moon eye plan) but his actions caused the shinobi world to unite and focus their hatred on his 3 man army. with that small army defeated it's the end of hatred and a united shinobi world is what remains, all focusing on the hero that defeated madara.


    yes, I know I didn't include sasuke, but we didn't see him partake in this war yet. even if he does the hate that comes from his death will end, since it's the people that care for him that will take him down.
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    this is great, alot of thought went into this and i immediately understood what you were talking about when you starting talking about the circle of hate ending. great stuff ^^ +rep
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    it would make sense if they were the only evil people on the whole planet, but we know it's not that easy

    you don't have to be a super villain to start a chain of hatred
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    well Sasuke still has all his hate and will still attack
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    Quote Originally Posted by Makz View Post
    it would make sense if they were the only evil people on the whole planet, but we know it's not that easy

    you don't have to be a super villain to start a chain of hatred
    this is true, every bad person can commit acts that start a chain of hatred. there can never be absolute peace, only relative peace, but that was not my point.
    the naruto world not a world devided by war anymore, this is a world united in war. and all the shinobi seem to be aware of madara's plans, I'm sure no one is looking for that to happen, even the other evil people, they don't want to be controled. so when naruto defeats madara (the uber bad guy) everyone is going to know who he is. and I think he is going to be reveard by the evil people even more than his father. remember, in some country's it was a rule that when minato was spotted you had to retreat. i think naruto is going to have the same effect on all people of bad intentions and gain the respect of all the shinobi's. all because of how madara set up his plans and army.
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    Nice I like this theory. Could be possible as we seen in Naruto countless times every one has their own way to achieve peace. Some just more ****ed up than others.
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    this isnt strange op,

    most well written stories have villains that u can have some compasion towards.

    Some of this stuff may well happen,

    I always saw madara as misunderstood character.
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    Your theory will have been right if Sasuke wasn't an @sshole.
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    Klubargutan (spelling) came up with a similar theory a while back. Whereas he thinks Madara is doing everything deliberately
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    Quote Originally Posted by captainEO View Post
    Klubargutan (spelling) came up with a similar theory a while back. Whereas he thinks Madara is doing everything deliberately
    thank you for the intel, I was not aware that someone else came up with a similar theory. but personaly I find it hard to belive that madara is doing this all delibratly to end the cicle of hate in this way. he is using people, exploiting their hate, that sounds more like he wants to be in control rather then take the blame for it all. ad his moon eye plan is just the same, total control.
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    This is pretty neat. If Madara was doing everything deliberately he'd be pulling a "Celestial Being" on the Naruverse... xD
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    Quote Originally Posted by Escorpiius View Post
    Your theory will have been right if Sasuke wasn't an @sshole.
    ^^
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    everyone has a reason for fighting, except for Oruchimaru; he was a badass.

    of course what you are saying is obvious. They are all united right now so they are less likely to fight in the future. The question is: did Madara intend to make them all unite so he can bare all the hate, like Itachi had done with Sasuke( but failed), or does he want to sacrifice the Allied Shinobi Forces in order to achieve his plans. I guess it is the second, because his plans grants him peace all over the world, but the first suggests that hes only looking for peace in the Shinobi countries only.
     
         
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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    I agree, I always thought it would be funny if Madaras eventual goal was peace, he was just going about it in a strange way.
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    Quote Originally Posted by captainEO View Post
    Klubargutan (spelling) came up with a similar theory a while back. Whereas he thinks Madara is doing everything deliberately
    a lot of ppl did, i did too i just didnt make a thread cuz i know everyone hates madara
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post
    I know this title sounds strange (and it ended to be a long tekst to )but just bear with me for a moment.
    this story is all about breaking the cicle of hate, now in a normal shinobi war there are 2 or more sides with shinobi from the villages and country's involved. they all have their names, history's and reasons for fighting. in turn this means that when a shinobi kills another shinobi then the people that loved him will most likly (according to the cicle of hate) start hating that shinobi and want to take revenge. at the end of a normal war people are left in suffering on both sides, and on both sides there are survivors that start hating the other side for the murders that happend.

    now to show why it's different from this war that madara started. and a quick look at madara's army should make it clear. it consits of plant clones made by zetsu and was added by dead shinobi from the past by kabuto. so basicly this is a 3 man army. madara, zetsu and kabuto are facing the world. and madara alwais intended it this way (at least himself and zetsu, he got lucky with kabuto joining him, for now)
    now it might not have been his intention but this means that the focus of all the hatred that comes from the result of this war will be directed to madara, zetsu and kabuto. lets have a look at these three:

    1) we know madara is ancient and has no family anymore, also he is seen as a major criminal, no one in his own village still cares for him. there is no one to hate the killer if madara gets killed
    2) zetsu is a plant, we don't know his origins but I suspect that he aswel is an ancient person that managed to survive thanks to madara and the experiments with the firsts cells. I belive that madara actualy made zetsu by transforming one of his allies with the firsts cells. if this is so then zetsu also has no one who cares for him. he is big in numbers but weak, so I suspect he is going to be killed also. and with no one to care for him the hate also ends there.
    3) last one, kabuto. kabuto's origins are also unknown, he was addopted into the leaf but deflected, he has become a major criminal and now by resurecting dead shinobi for the war has also attracted hatred from the shinobi world for discrasing the dead. he only had orochimaru as someone who might have cared for him, this is unsure since both oro and kabuto have always hidden their true feelings. so with kabuto dead that's also a cirlce of hate that comes to a conclusion.

    since the army is built up of these three people with this kind of background, if they get defeated that will be the end of the hatred. so as I said, madara never intended to attain peace in this way (he wants to use his moon eye plan) but his actions caused the shinobi world to unite and focus their hatred on his 3 man army. with that small army defeated it's the end of hatred and a united shinobi world is what remains, all focusing on the hero that defeated madara.


    yes, I know I didn't include sasuke, but we didn't see him partake in this war yet. even if he does the hate that comes from his death will end, since it's the people that care for him that will take him down.
    actually naruto is about never giving up, friendship and fulfilling your dreams no matter what happens, but you probably never watched the first part of naruto anyway so you wouldn't know anything about naruto wanting to become the hokage and such.
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    This sounds like the Plot to watchmen...
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    Hitler had no one who cared about him in the end and look... we DO STILL HAVE WARS IN THE WORLD TODAY RIGHT?

    People are just mean and selfish and those are some of the vertients of human behavior.. listen to Bjork
     
         

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    Re: strange twist comming up: Madara will be responsible for bringing peace to the wo

    Quote Originally Posted by kaddie3 View Post
    actually naruto is about never giving up, friendship and fulfilling your dreams no matter what happens, but you probably never watched the first part of naruto anyway so you wouldn't know anything about naruto wanting to become the hokage and such.
    I did read all the manga, and yes, I did see the anime of the first part. I know about this part of the story. the story with zabuza and haku, the chunin exam, the sand's invasion, the sound nin and sasuke's eventual departure from the village. so perhaps I misformulated. I was primarly talking about the things that are hapening now.
    it was jiraya 's goal in life to find a way to end the cicle of hate, he wanted to find an answer to the question of how to do it. he trusted naruto to find this answer after his death, so ending the cicle of hate is now part of naruto's goals, it has become one of his dreams and he is never going to give up on his friend sasuke while searching for this answer, this is one part of why he pleated with the raikage befor the 5 kage meeting.
    but this thread was about how madara in a strange way is providing the possibility to achieve that goal, did you read the rest of my post or just the first couple of scentenses?
     
         

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