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    I really wanna see Konohamaru fighting more, i'd prefer it if Naruto would come the last minute
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyx View Post
    naruto is going to come back to the village and take the sharingan of kakashi just like kakashi done with obito...THAT would be awesome!!!
    If that happened i'd stop reading the manga....
     
         

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    okay good chapter it proves a lot of obvious information we already could of guessed like that the bodies are being controlled by the real pein who is hiding somewhere else who probably is nagato the kid jiriya taught who had the rinnengan.

    And wtf is up wit konohamaro copying all of narutos shit i hate it realy bad call by kishi horrible i would rather have kono be more like his grand father with the monkey king enma.

    Also remember in the previous chapters where naruto would sneak away from pa frog to practise some jutsu well now i kno what the jutsu is guys its the jutsu that combins wind element with his rasengan.. do u remeber in his fight with hidan naruto had to be in close range to use the rasen-shuriken he was unable to throw it. well now due to sage mode he can throw it if u look in the mountains shape and bridge location in the link below
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/
    and then compare it to the mountains shape and bridge location in this link
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    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/10/

    it all makes sense
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by KonohasRedFox69 View Post
    okay good chapter it proves a lot of obvious information we already could of guessed like that the bodies are being controlled by the real pein who is hiding somewhere else who probably is nagato the kid jiriya taught who had the rinnengan.

    And wtf is up wit konohamaro copying all of narutos shit i hate it realy bad call by kishi horrible i would rather have kono be more like his grand father with the monkey king enma.

    Also remember in the previous chapters where naruto would sneak away from pa frog to practise some jutsu well now i kno what the jutsu is guys its the jutsu that combins wind element with his rasengan.. do u remeber in his fight with hidan naruto had to be in close range to use the rasen-shuriken he was unable to throw it. well now due to sage mode he can throw it if u look in the mountains shape and bridge location in the link below
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/
    and then compare it to the mountains shape and bridge location in this link
    below
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/10/

    it all makes sense
    good point, and it does make sence but i'll be dissapointed if THAT JUTSU turned out to be the rs... i mean c'mon its all the man does, show us something new for a change.

    and on pein not being able to leave immediatly.
    well i think he can, any ninja can just go poof whenever they wanna draw back and we've seen it with haku, sasuke, oro and kabuto, hidan and kakazu and zetsu and madara and some others probably...so why shouldnt pein be able to just go poof and go after naruto????
    this would make the most sence if you look at peins character...
    he's a no nonsense shinobi who will ask you what he wants to know once or twice and when he's not satisfied..ripp your soul out, or whoop your ass with a passion.:D
    pretty straight forward if ya ask me, so for him to be hanging around reminiscing with tsunade just doesnt make sence.

    so my prediction is we are gonna see pein fight naruto sooner then we thought,
    maybe for xmas( fingers crossed)

    and to those who say naruto isnt strong enough to take him on:
    pa toad said himself that he surpassed jiraiya a good few mangas back, ad the manga's and time we had since then and naruto will make a decent mach for pein if ya ask me.

    i can already picture pein bargin in on toad mountain, pa toad telling naruto he's looking at the man who killed jman, while naruto suddenly turns into a icecold killing machine and kills pein in cold blood on the spot whitout any hesitation... (picture goku when he first turned super sayin)
    no "what happend to konoha" "what about Kakashi and tsunade" "you didnt hurt sakura did you"
    NO NONE OF THAT!!!
    just a well deserved allround, high dose, fully powered, insanly brutal can of whoopASS!!! :D

    AWESOME
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruzen Sarutobi View Post
    If that happened i'd stop reading the manga....
    omg, me too! and i'm sure we're not the only one hiruzen-san
     
         

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    well but in my opinion

    1.naruto will master sage mode and will be able to use FRS with no secondary damages(100%-since the new technique probably is the development of FRS and now he can throw it)

    2.pein will leave since he already know what he wanted so no need to continue fighting.

    3.kakashi probably is dead since the old guys are dieing:o
    but i hope he still alive

    4.Tsunade and shizune wont die
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakashithunder View Post
    yeah thats true...so where do u guys think pein will head next?
    he'll head for the eight tails, madara-baka the failure oh wait it was sasuke who screwed up lol nvm.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakashithunder View Post
    yeah thats true...so where do u guys think pein will head next?
    Pain's goal is to get the 9 nine tailed fox so he wont waste anytime in Konoha. He'll go to Myobukuza, w/e u call it, and confront Naruto there.

    i was hopin for a fight against Tsunade but... haysss... it will not happen. thanks to Shizune who juz had to get caught. -_-
     
         

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    wait wasnt nagato the other blonde orphan n yahiko was the dark haired one with the rinnegan....


    cuz if so he is dead for sure but i wonder how he died cuz
    he was like naruto in a way wanting to save everyone n all
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiqlette View Post
    Pain's goal is to get the 9 nine tailed fox so he wont waste anytime in Konoha. He'll go to Myobukuza, w/e u call it, and confront Naruto there.

    i was hopin for a fight against Tsunade but... haysss... it will not happen. thanks to Shizune who juz had to get caught. -_-
    i doubt he will find Myobukuza at least for now , probably he'll leave because of some kind of information about 8 tails or he will be forced to leave since team guy is heading to konoha and that will be another obstacle for pein
     
         

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    Hi to everyone!
    It is obvious that Naruto can now throw the FR and the new thing about it could be that in sage mode he can make it without clones or with just one!
    Immagine many much stronger shadow clones in sage mode each throwing FR!
    Damn!!
    That would complete all of his techniques and give way for new ones!
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotwood View Post
    Hi to everyone!
    It is obvious that Naruto can now throw the FR and the new thing about it could be that in sage mode he can make it without clones or with just one!
    Immagine many much stronger shadow clones in sage mode each throwing FR!
    Damn!!
    That would complete all of his techniques and give way for new ones!
    naruto should learn another elemental and learn a ultimate defense like sasuke,gaara,and j-man
    and a new technique would be nice to watch 2
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiqlette View Post
    Pain's goal is to get the 9 nine tailed fox so he wont waste anytime in Konoha. He'll go to Myobukuza, w/e u call it, and confront Naruto there.

    i was hopin for a fight against Tsunade but... haysss... it will not happen. thanks to Shizune who juz had to get caught. -_-
    1.) Myobukuza is supposed to be impossible to find. Jiraiya was destined to accidently find it, since the old old prediction toad was waiting for him.

    You'll get at least some fighting. Tsunade is angrier about Jiraiya's death than at least Dan since I think the two flirted much of their life since the day they met. She wants revenge badly.

    Pein will attend to other matters, probably try to get a spy, and wait for Naruto's return.

    2.) Right now it's possible that one of Pein's bodies is making Shizune a sleeper spy with his mind techniques, which are similar to Ino's clan. She'd make a great spy given she's the only person besides Kakashi and Tsunade he's talked to that know where Naruto is. Think of Sasori's technique on that Sand village captain.

    3.) ANBU don't seem as good as they should be. They can't sense Pein's movement, but shinobi like Kakashi and Yamato were in ANBU, so I'm trying to reconcile that. Tsunade doesn't have team 10, 7, ... protecting her but them. They also dropped the ball protecting the third.


    4: Konohamaru, Rasengan, and solid clones:

    a.) Konohamaru used two hands (poor chakra control) and it was a small rasengan (lack of immense chakra) right now. I think that the size matters, which is why Naruto made Rasengan his own when he made the two-handed oodama Rasengan, which was huge. The crater formed by each of these would differ. Jiraiya didn't use ultimate Rasengan just to look cool against Pein.

    b.) Many shinobi can make short shadow/water/bug/etc clones or a few of them, this is far different than using loads of them like Naruto does. Recall when Ebisu was talking to Naruto as his tutor before the chuunin finals in the Ramen shop about how many clones Sasuke and Sakura could perform with the same amount of chakra (about 5), while using the same chakra Naruto could barely make 1( i.e. he's wasting chakra making them, but he still made 1,000 twice pre-time-skip). I'm not surprised Konohamaru can make some.

    c.) Konohamaru will be fine (I've said he may be Hokage), but he's never going to be Naruto (Naruto is not Minato). Let him grow into his own shoes, he's not ready yet to take on the world yet. They will ultimately have different styles. Unless Konohamaru gets a great teacher, not Ebisu (more like Naruto at some point), then I doubt he'll become Hokage. Everyone that became Hokage or considered had a great teacher. History repeats itself.
    1/2->3rd->Sannin->Minato->Kakashi->Naruto (with both Kakashi [if he lives will be Hokage] and Jiraiya[offered 5th Hokage])->Konohamaru(Ebisu+...)? (really the only ninja of his generation we've come to know.)

    5.) I don't mind if FRS is both close-combat as well as throwable. I just hope he improves his ability to control chakra to reduce clone usage. When he was practicing that secret jutsu there was only one clone with him, maybe for elemental, and he's got regular Rasengan down.

    Footnotes:
    * Pein must have immense chakra reserves, and if he is inferior to Madara, damn Madara is gonna be hard as hell to kill.

    *I think I heard Sasuke saying he could see the clones with his Sharingan during his fight with Naruto at VoE pre-time-skip. I would expect the Rinnegan to be capable of that since it's the ultimate doujutsu, and if it can, eye-techniques can't underestimate people.

    *Konohamaru is Naruto's rival like Kakashi and Guy, not like Sasuke and Naruto.

    *If Naruto gets the Sharingan with MS, he would be so powerful with Sage mode, Kyuubi, Rasengan variants, summonings, shadow clones, MS techniques, it would be too much.

    *If Sasuke fights 8-tails again I hope he skips to Ameratsu with Madara nearby so he doesn't spend 10 manga fighting pointlessly while the 8-tails does a rope-a-dope.

    *I'd get a kick out of Madara yelling at Sasuke like the Emperor does to Vader on Robot Chicken (must watch by the way).
     
         

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    good chapter i liked it but i think pain is leaving next chapter because he now knows naruto's location and he said that was the primary goal not to destroy the village. and as the way pain mentioned the mountain's name i think he knows its location he knew everything about jiriaya i would not put it pass him to tell nagato and the others where the mountain is at. also the name of next chapter is interesting "pain is invincible and violent". so i think he will defeat kiba and his mom fast and konan will escape.

    also i doubt the frs can be thrown it loses its shape if it leaves the hand it has been made clear already it is a close range jutsu. naruto is learning something else. i think it is kinda like kirin but it involves wind.

    also i doubt naruto will get the sharingan but in the case he does who cares kishi has been making it to be the greatest jutsu in the world. and itachi gave naruto a power and all his techniques where sharingan based. also i would prefer naruto to get the rinnegan after he beats pain. the sharingan is more of a genjutsu eyes and the rinnegan is a ninjutsu eyes that the possessor can learn any ninjutsu in the world unlike the sharingan where you can only copy a jutsu's with the element you already know.
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9tailsSage View Post
    good chapter i liked it but i think pain is leaving next chapter because he now knows naruto's location and he said that was the primary goal not to destroy the village. and as the way pain mentioned the mountain's name i think he knows its location he knew everything about jiriaya i would not put it pass him to tell nagato and the others where the mountain is at. also the name of next chapter is interesting "pain is invincible and violent". so i think he will defeat kiba and his mom fast and konan will escape. also i doubt the frs can be thrown it loses its shape if it leaves the hand it has been made clear already it is a close range jutsu. naruto is learning something else. i think it is kinda like kirin but it involves wind. also i doubt naruto will get the sharingan but in the case he does who cares kishi has been making to be the greatest jutsu in the world. and itachi gave naruto a power and all his techniques where sharingan based. also i would prefer naruto to get the rinnegan after he beats pain. the sharingan is more of a genjutsu eyes and the rinnegan is a ninjutsu eyes that the possor can learn any ninjutsu in the world unlike the sharingan where you can only copy a jutsu's with the element you already know.

    well i dont agree with u about naruto FRS since when he fought [kakuzu] the technique was like 50% and the power was already incredible the only thing i think that can be new is the throw factor it makes sense (and by the name we can think that 2)
    about what itachi gave naruto probably its a defense against sharingan i really dont know , but should be powerful , because itachi told naruto that he would prefer that the technique wouldnt be needed.
    about the rinnegan there's noway that naruto can get that so u can forget about that.
    Now the next episode i agree with u about the damages
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
    1.)
    Differences from Naruto's Rasengan summarized (I think everyone knows, and all have been posted, I'm just gathering them up.)
    a.) Kono's was much smaller indicating he can't draw out enough chakra or he can draw out enough, but not control it (thus he needs to draw out less).
    b.) He required two hands (one his, one a shadow clone) to control the Rasengan
    c.) It took him up to three years to learn it.
    d.) He didn't have Jiraiya/Ebisu to help him, Ebisu didn't know Kono learned it. However during Naruto's training with Jiraiya, he was required to do the vast majority alone.
    e.) This technique is as hard to land as oodama Rasengan, but it is much weaker.
    f.) Konohamaru looks like he's a good/great Ninja (future Hokage, and I bet Naruto's apprentice later on), but he's not Naruto in my book. Naruto may be dumb about some things, but when it comes to learning/teaching(apparently) jutsu, he's legendary. Konohamaru's got a lot of potential, but he needs time.
    g.) That weak Rasengan didn't kill the Pein body, and that's Kono's best jutsu, so I guess we get to see Ebisu? Or the Pein body will leave since he doesn't know, and another body does.

    2.)
    Pein: I think it's an assumption that Nagato's nearby. It was based off of the way Ino's clan technique works. Differences are that Pein uses dead bodies with chakra receivers, which may overcome that requirement.

    b.) How the hell does the most powerful eye technique miss a shadow clone, and start sucking it's soul out? If Pein isn't using the Rinnegan to control the dead bodies but the chakra receivers, does the Rinnegan still have that shared vision, or was that the real Pein watching the whole time? I'm trying to figure out what the Rinnegan does exactly.

    3.)
    Shizune: If she dies, who does all the Hokage work? Does Pein even know what the toad mountain name means? It's said to be impossible to find, and requires a month's travel by foot. I don't see how Pein is going to find him, Naruto will return a sage to a ruined Konoha, and fight Pein later.

    4.)
    Naruto: Those saying he doesn't have any techniques that are special besides shadow clones and Rasengan are wrong. FR was forbidden, but as a sage he can pull it off. It was also incomplete, so we have yet to see it. He has some devastating jutsu that slices through trees far away. He now knows how to use shadow clones besides making them just run in blindly to their death (ex. Kakuzu fight). He will have sage mode down without fusion. I have no idea how much stronger that makes him, other than from what I saw from Jiraiya, he should be incredible. With sage mode he's learned toad taijutsu completely and sage techniques (not fully down according to Pa toad). Now that Naruto is at the point of making new techniques (tree slicer), he's going to make more signature moves. Finally, don't forget his summoning ability with the toads of course.

    5.)
    Kakashi: We won't know whatsoever about his status until Pein is gone and they're going over the damage to Konoha and the injured/dead. As mentioned this is classic suspense writing. We wouldn't still be talking about Kakashi like this if he was dead. Jiraiya died, and people still refused to believe he's dead.

    *If you made it this far, you're a stud. Sorry it's so long
    lol.....no prob i;m glad to hear u voice ur opinions

    Agree with everything cept one
    Kakashi is dead.
     
         

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    well it was a good chapter indeed!!

    i think pain will retreat, but will fight tsunade before.

    You guys say that pain doesn't know the location on myobokuzan, well i agree with that too, but only assuming that pain didn't has jiraiyas body, cause if he has he knows how to go there
     
         

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    Finally a good chapter where something happens! My predicition for the next chapter, Pain leaves Konoha, he either tries to go to the mountain, which he probably won't/can't, or leaves to talk to Madara, or Madara tells him they didn't get the 8 tails yet, so he leaves anyway. The question is, will he fight with Tsunade first?

    I guess another question is can he get to the mountain? I don't really think it would make sense if he could, but if he manages it, it will definitely take him a few days at least to figure out to get there.

    In the future.... Kabutomaru shows up and attacks the weakened Konoha, but immediately afterwards so do the Cloud nin......
     
         

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    wow didn't see that one coming,omg i can't belive that kono knows rasegan,Naruto can be a good teacher,its is bad, pein knows where naruto is(naruto i hope that sage training made you stronger)
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by KonohasRedFox69 View Post
    okay good chapter it proves a lot of obvious information we already could of guessed like that the bodies are being controlled by the real pein who is hiding somewhere else who probably is nagato the kid jiriya taught who had the rinnengan.

    And wtf is up wit konohamaro copying all of narutos shit i hate it realy bad call by kishi horrible i would rather have kono be more like his grand father with the monkey king enma.

    Also remember in the previous chapters where naruto would sneak away from pa frog to practise some jutsu well now i kno what the jutsu is guys its the jutsu that combins wind element with his rasengan.. do u remeber in his fight with hidan naruto had to be in close range to use the rasen-shuriken he was unable to throw it. well now due to sage mode he can throw it if u look in the mountains shape and bridge location in the link below

    and then compare it to the mountains shape and bridge location in this link
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    it all makes sense
    kind sir it would appear that you are on to something.

    Like personally i had my suspicions, but you know kishi always keeping us on your toes....(sike) anywho can't wait to see if it'll be confirmed.
     
         

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    indeed it well take pain gay azz about a couple of days to find where Myobukuza, just because he will go back to the place where he fought perverted hermit and uses his body for one of his own, so he can go to or find where is the Myobukuza mountain
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcoutlaw View Post
    oooooooh and everyone does not know kage bushin no jutsu cuz its a forbidden technique bcuz something dangerous about chakra control
    FUUTON RASENSHURIKEN FTW!!! and i was gonna say something else but i forgot
    on my ps3
    i do not think that kaga bunshin is forbidden because almost all jounins can use that thecnique but it is interesting that kage bunshin technique is in the scorl of sealing
     
         

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    m kage bushin isnt forbiddin... i thought "taji bushin" 1000 clones was forbidd
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by naruto_sage_form View Post
    m kage bushin isnt forbiddin... i thought "taji bushin" 1000 clones was forbidd
    "Taju Kage Bushin"
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyx View Post
    "Taju Kage Bushin"
    haha lol something like that... well i was close tho :P blehh
     
         

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