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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Hey i have a question when pain when against kakashi what was that scene when all you saw was pain eyes around a black background that made kakshi sharigan act up and miss him?
     
         

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    itachi!!!!!!!![color="darkred"][/color]
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Maybe i have missed one or two replies.

    But Does anybody has tough about nagato just summoning 5 or 6 summons then close his eyes and fight itachi? In that way Nagato isnt looking at his eyes but with his shared vision from the summons he is looking at itachi?(That wouldnt make genjutsu a problem)

    So if i am wrong in anything, anybody can point me in what i am wrong.

    And for any fanboy problem BS. Im Kakashi, Itachi, Kimimaro Fanboy but i have an open mind.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    naruto's clones were able to resist it, the tech is not that strong
    Nagato was already in really bad shape back then.
    Earlier, Deva sent flying three enormous frogs like some pieces of trash. -> http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/434/9
    Including Gamabunta, who was able to hold down Kyuubi. You are greatly understaminating Shinra Tensei.
     
         
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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    nagato(with sixpath) vs itachi winner=nagato
    nagato(alone) vs itachi winner=itachi
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
    That doesnt meant ST couldnt sent Itachi flying along with Susanoo.
    he can beat him even without susano
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    nagato(with sixpath) vs itachi winner=nagato
    nagato(alone) vs itachi winner=itachi
    why are clones for :shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    1. nagato don't need to get close to itachi
    2. kakashi died out of chakra exhaustion as a result
    3. katsuyu is a special summon from a KAGE/SANNIN, katsuyu can heal who ever it touches via the chakra of the most skilled medical nin of all. comparing it to susanoo is BS.
    4. nagato can spam shinra tensei, but itachi cannot use susanoo that long
    5. itachi even inside susanoo cannot block GRAVITATIONAL PULL/PUSH.


    answer this with logic..can you block gravity with a shield? lol
    You sir are smart (unlike this stupid itachi fanboys...)
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    1. nagato don't need to get close to itachi
    2. kakashi died out of chakra exhaustion as a result
    3. katsuyu is a special summon from a KAGE/SANNIN, katsuyu can heal who ever it touches via the chakra of the most skilled medical nin of all. comparing it to susanoo is BS.
    4. nagato can spam shinra tensei, but itachi cannot use susanoo that long
    5. itachi even inside susanoo cannot block GRAVITATIONAL PULL/PUSH.


    answer this with logic..can you block gravity with a shield? lol
    1. Yes, since Susanoo is huge close contact isn't even necessary to seal him with Totsuka. Moreover Itachi can get close no Nagato.

    2. Not as a result. He simply died of Chakra exhaustion. Naruto didn't took heavy injuries from it either. The one that blew away the frogs was a stronger one.

    3. It wasn't about healing. Just beeing inside of Katsuyu protected the most villagers from receiving heavy injuries. Shinra Tensei isn't that strong.

    4. Itachi used it for ten minutes after he already used Amaterasu four times and extinguished it once. Not to talk about the Tsukuyomi that got broken. Furthermore Nagato definitely can't spam it, there's the fatal interval that at least lasts for five seconds. The more power he puts into it, the longer the interval becomes.

    5. Obviously I can, since six tailed Naruto didn't just block Shinra Tensei but threw it back at Pain. To concentrate chakra in her feet was even enough for Tsunade to withstand a smaller one. So yes, with Yata no Kagami, which is said to block every attack Itachi definitely could block Shinra Tensei without much effort.

    Now it's your turn; what intends Nagato to do against Itachis Genjutsu? Or are you one of those ho doubt that Genjutsu works on Nagato? :'D How will he block Yasaka no Magatama, which is a spirit weapon, too? What will he do if Amaterasu hit's his eyes during the interval? Or what whill he do if he kills one of Itachi's Karasu Bunshin with Shinra Tensei & gets hit by the Shuriken the crows can transform into?
     
         
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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

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    he can beat him even without susano
    Thats your opinion. I see Nagato as significantly stronger than Itachi, even though Itachi is my favorite character from manga. Actually, Itachi is able to defeat Nagato in 1 on 1 combat, but I dont see him standing a chance against six paths of Pain. He would be able to destroy around 4 paths, but thats max for him IMO.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    To concentrate chakra in her feet was even enough for Tsunade to withstand a smaller one.
    Tsunade never withstood ST, it was never used at her.
    So yes, with Yata no Kagami, which is said to block every attack Itachi definitely could block Shinra Tensei without much effort.
    You dont get it. Yata mirror and Susanoo would stay intact, but they would still be pushed back like a piece of trash.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by FloriGlori View Post
    1. Yes, since Susanoo is huge close contact isn't even necessary to seal him with Totsuka. Moreover Itachi can get close no Nagato.

    2. Not as a result. He simply died of Chakra exhaustion. Naruto didn't took heavy injuries from it either. The one that blew away the frogs was a stronger one.

    3. It wasn't about healing. Just beeing inside of Katsuyu protected the most villagers from receiving heavy injuries. Shinra Tensei isn't that strong.

    4. Itachi used it for ten minutes after he already used Amaterasu four times and extinguished it once. Not to talk about the Tsukuyomi that got broken. Furthermore Nagato definitely can't spam it, there's the fatal interval that at least lasts for five seconds. The more power he puts into it, the longer the interval becomes.

    5. Obviously I can, since six tailed Naruto didn't just block Shinra Tensei but threw it back at Pain. To concentrate chakra in her feet was even enough for Tsunade to withstand a smaller one. So yes, with Yata no Kagami, which is said to block every attack Itachi definitely could block Shinra Tensei without much effort.

    Now it's your turn; what intends Nagato to do against Itachis Genjutsu? Or are you one of those ho doubt that Genjutsu works on Nagato? :'D How will he block Yasaka no Magatama, which is a spirit weapon, too? What will he do if Amaterasu hit's his eyes during the interval? Or what whill he do if he kills one of Itachi's Karasu Bunshin with Shinra Tensei & gets hit by the Shuriken the crows can transform into?
    1. its huge but can be shinra tensei'd away

    2. nagato never wanted to kill naruto, that is why he is cautious about using it.

    3. LOL the most ridiculuos comment so far... yeah right shinra tensei that WIPE OUT KONOHA IN ONE SHOT ISN'T THAT STRONG. did you saw the last part where he revives all that died in konoha.. dude that was alot. only major characters was saved by katsuyu. not to mention konoha became a huge creater after that.lol

    4. yeah and after using it that long ITACHI DIED OUT OF CHAKRA EXHAUSTION. funny isn't it. the interval wasn't an issue to the complete nagato. coz he can use other paths simultaneously if shinra tensei is in cooldown.

    5. you don't understand that much. 6th tail naruto didn't block it, he withstood it by using the tails as an anchor.. TSUNADE's chakra on foot was never saw effective. pain didn't use shinra with her, so how can you tell it can withstand a shinra tensei? do not assume. besides, if he use a large scale shinra that can rip off the ground itachi is standing what does your imagination tells you?

    against tsukuyomi: obviously if nagato will be caught in tsukuyomi its game over.. but the question is how can nagato avoid that.. there are ways on how and first is to not look at itachi's eye directly, use his summons/paths to watch itachi's movements.

    against yasaka magatama: don't be such a fool, yasaka magatama is almost = rasenshurken which was shinra tensei'd with ease. this is not a threat. shinra tensei can/will repel anything depending on its intensity. that is repeatedly stated in the manga. no further need for discussion here.

    against other attacks while shinra is in cooldown: itachi fanboys don't really understand that nagato can use other paths in connection with each other. this means nagato can use multiple paths and shinra tensei IS NOT the only jutsu nagato KNOWS. everyone needs to understand he got 6paths that can be used. amaterasu can be absorb, kunai or any other weapons can be block by asura path. mechanical arms.. the laser canon that was suppose to be used on bee..I still haven't mention 3 paths..


    question: tell me how will itachi defend himself from CT on his own? don't give ridiculous answers pls.. be reasonable.lol
     
         
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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by The Eye View Post
    Hey i have a question when pain when against kakashi what was that scene when all you saw was pain eyes around a black background that made kakshi sharigan act up and miss him?
    please somone answer my question. i really wanted to know what that was
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by The Eye View Post
    please somone answer my question. i really wanted to know what that was
    that was nagato's chakra he felt.. remember if he pierced someone with his black rod he can transmit chakra with it and can disrupt any persons chakra, or even control.. and itachi is also vulnerable to that attack.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    that was nagato's chakra he felt.. remember if he pierced someone with his black rod he can transmit chakra with it and can disrupt any persons chakra, or even control.. and itachi is also vulnerable to that attack.
    Yep that. i thought it was pain own genjustu but ok thanks
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    1. its huge but can be shinra tensei'd away

    2. nagato never wanted to kill naruto, that is why he is cautious about using it.

    3. LOL the most ridiculuos comment so far... yeah right shinra tensei that WIPE OUT KONOHA IN ONE SHOT ISN'T THAT STRONG. did you saw the last part where he revives all that died in konoha.. dude that was alot. only major characters was saved by katsuyu. not to mention konoha became a huge creater after that.lol

    4. yeah and after using it that long ITACHI DIED OUT OF CHAKRA EXHAUSTION. funny isn't it. the interval wasn't an issue to the complete nagato. coz he can use other paths simultaneously if shinra tensei is in cooldown.

    5. you don't understand that much. 6th tail naruto didn't block it, he withstood it by using the tails as an anchor.. TSUNADE's chakra on foot was never saw effective. pain didn't use shinra with her, so how can you tell it can withstand a shinra tensei? do not assume. besides, if he use a large scale shinra that can rip off the ground itachi is standing what does your imagination tells you?

    against tsukuyomi: obviously if nagato will be caught in tsukuyomi its game over.. but the question is how can nagato avoid that.. there are ways on how and first is to not look at itachi's eye directly, use his summons/paths to watch itachi's movements.

    against yasaka magatama: don't be such a fool, yasaka magatama is almost = rasenshurken which was shinra tensei'd with ease. this is not a threat. shinra tensei can/will repel anything depending on its intensity. that is repeatedly stated in the manga. no further need for discussion here.

    against other attacks while shinra is in cooldown: itachi fanboys don't really understand that nagato can use other paths in connection with each other. this means nagato can use multiple paths and shinra tensei IS NOT the only jutsu nagato KNOWS. everyone needs to understand he got 6paths that can be used. amaterasu can be absorb, kunai or any other weapons can be block by asura path. mechanical arms.. the laser canon that was suppose to be used on bee..I still haven't mention 3 paths..


    question: tell me how will itachi defend himself from CT on his own? don't give ridiculous answers pls.. be reasonable.lol
    his summons eyes were easily taken out by itachi so that is really not a big problem whatsoever can even be done by clones with shuriken, so tsukyomi would work.
    2. if he also has his eyes taken out he is also vulnerable to sword of totsuka having low mobility and having no eyes to protect him makes him vulnerable.

    3. shinra tensei is not going to blow away sussano and this is one with yata mirror for him to do larger ones it takes more time again leaving him vulnerable to genjutsu or sword of totsuka. the other paths like asura can be crushed by sussano easily, human and preta need close contact and sword of totsuka can ed that and if he gets closer getting caught genjutsu is also at a higher probability.

    4. Ct takes long in comparison to itachi's techs such as the sword of totsuka and tsukiyomi so his chances of pulling it off are low

    Itachi's advantages in speed, intelligence(like blinding the summons), one shot techs that are faster in comparison to nagato's 1-shot techs would likely give him higher chances in a 1v1.
     
         
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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Of course i still think nagato is stronger than itachi i even think nagato is the 2nd strongest next to tobi.

    but i still think itachi can win using tsukuyomi or any of his paralysing genjutsu's
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by arv993 View Post
    his summons eyes were easily taken out by itachi so that is really not a big problem whatsoever can even be done by clones with shuriken, so tsukyomi would work.
    2. if he also has his eyes taken out he is also vulnerable to sword of totsuka having low mobility and having no eyes to protect him makes him vulnerable.

    3. shinra tensei is not going to blow away sussano and this is one with yata mirror for him to do larger ones it takes more time again leaving him vulnerable to genjutsu or sword of totsuka. the other paths like asura can be crushed by sussano easily, human and preta need close contact and sword of totsuka can ed that and if he gets closer getting caught genjutsu is also at a higher probability.

    4. Ct takes long in comparison to itachi's techs such as the sword of totsuka and tsukiyomi so his chances of pulling it off are low

    Itachi's advantages in speed, intelligence(like blinding the summons), one shot techs that are faster in comparison to nagato's 1-shot techs would likely give him higher chances in a 1v1.
    first Im so sick and tired debating with you with this coz you are just repeating ur non sense theory over and over again without giving any logical reasons.. but I would like to answer this again for the sake of the viewers..

    1. those are only 2 summons that was hit.. tell me how many summons nagato has in his arsenal. count it for me. do the math if its scattered all over itachi.. ALSO, again see carefuly the manga coz those eyes are not focused on itachi. kabuto didn't even bother taking out itachi first. KABUTO was ignoring itachi and that is his failure not nagato's. that scenario is not applicable here.

    2. in conjuction with the 1st statement this one will be a failure if itachi can't disable ALL eyes of nagato focused at him. that would be 10+ sets of eyes.

    3. pls use logic, yata mirror is a shield not a barrier so when the wielder's footing took off the ground the shield comes with it. and again I thought this is nagato vs itachi fight? not 6paths of pain vs itachi. so ur argument asura path can be crushed is a fail. it only appears at nagato's body so no, unless susanoo can crush nagato's body itself your imagination fails again. btw if itachi caught off guard its the end for him. human path = instant death..

    4. again refer to the manga. nagato was able to put up CT before anyone from itachi, naruto and bee can react. so no, itachi is not fast enough to react to CT and he got no knowledge on whats goin on until he felt they where getting pulled and saw the black sphere at the center.

    overall nagato is superior to itachi no one can argue, base on stats and reputation.. but again no one can really tell who's goin to win. we can only present VALID explanation on HOW one can win.
     
         
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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    first Im so sick and tired debating with you with this coz you are just repeating ur non sense theory over and over again without giving any logical reasons.. but I would like to answer this again for the sake of the viewers..

    1. those are only 2 summons that was hit.. tell me how many summons nagato has in his arsenal. count it for me. do the math if its scattered all over itachi.. ALSO, again see carefuly the manga coz those eyes are not focused on itachi. kabuto didn't even bother taking out itachi first. KABUTO was ignoring itachi and that is his failure not nagato's. that scenario is not applicable here.

    2. in conjuction with the 1st statement this one will be a failure if itachi can't disable ALL eyes of nagato focused at him. that would be 10+ sets of eyes.

    3. pls use logic, yata mirror is a shield not a barrier so when the wielder's footing took off the ground the shield comes with it. and again I thought this is nagato vs itachi fight? not 6paths of pain vs itachi. so ur argument asura path can be crushed is a fail. it only appears at nagato's body so no, unless susanoo can crush nagato's body itself your imagination fails again. btw if itachi caught off guard its the end for him. human path = instant death..

    4. again refer to the manga. nagato was able to put up CT before anyone from itachi, naruto and bee can react. so no, itachi is not fast enough to react to CT and he got no knowledge on whats goin on until he felt they where getting pulled and saw the black sphere at the center.

    overall nagato is superior to itachi no one can argue, base on stats and reputation.. but again no one can really tell who's goin to win. we can only present VALID explanation on HOW one can win.
    same right back at you and ur constant crap that i hear from you
    1. CT was able to be initiated becos itachi had to save naruto who were at the brink of death and had to distance them away from him. and bee giving him time to do it and they even had time to talk in between tsukiyomi and sword of totsuka are much faster in comparison to CT

    2. he can have multiple summons but they can be blinded and he can even use clones like i said b4 and it makes it only easier two ppl can blind eyes twice as fast

    a shield blocks attacks that comes toward it that is what it does and nagato's shinra tensei can be blocked its not a jutsu that is an auto kill especially the weaker ones and for him to use stronger ones take more time an leave him vulnerable

    nagato has more destructve power than itachi but itachi's advantages in genjutsu, speed and intelligence lets him take the battle.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by Shady17 View Post
    Maybe i have missed one or two replies.

    But Does anybody has tough about nagato just summoning 5 or 6 summons then close his eyes and fight itachi? In that way Nagato isnt looking at his eyes but with his shared vision from the summons he is looking at itachi?(That wouldnt make genjutsu a problem)

    So if i am wrong in anything, anybody can point me in what i am wrong.

    And for any fanboy problem BS. Im Kakashi, Itachi, Kimimaro Fanboy but i have an open mind.
    Yes he can do that. + rep
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    nagato can summon all his animals to the battle field, gedo mazou and that soul sucking dragon, + hell king enma.

    Can susano block an intagable spirit? the way the yata mirror works i think thats very unlikley, itachi gets his soul sucked , chibakou tenseins or chou shinra tenseid
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    1. nagato don't need to get close to itachi
    2. kakashi died out of chakra exhaustion as a result
    3. katsuyu is a special summon from a KAGE/SANNIN, katsuyu can heal who ever it touches via the chakra of the most skilled medical nin of all. comparing it to susanoo is BS.
    4. nagato can spam shinra tensei, but itachi cannot use susanoo that long
    5. itachi even inside susanoo cannot block GRAVITATIONAL PULL/PUSH.


    answer this with logic..can you block gravity with a shield? lol
    Naruto withstood Shinra Tensei with shadow clones....of course Susano'o could.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by Amaterasu14 View Post
    Naruto withstood Shinra Tensei with shadow clones....of course Susano'o could.
    Nagato was already very weak at that moment, in was after he used Chibaku Tensei. Earlier, he used Shinra Tensei and sent flying three bigass frogs like pieces of trash (including Gamabunta, who was able to hold down Kyuubi).
     
         

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    Re: Itachi vs Nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by arv993 View Post
    same right back at you and ur constant crap that i hear from you
    1. CT was able to be initiated becos itachi had to save naruto who were at the brink of death and had to distance them away from him. and bee giving him time to do it and they even had time to talk in between tsukiyomi and sword of totsuka are much faster in comparison to CT

    2. he can have multiple summons but they can be blinded and he can even use clones like i said b4 and it makes it only easier two ppl can blind eyes twice as fast

    a shield blocks attacks that comes toward it that is what it does and nagato's shinra tensei can be blocked its not a jutsu that is an auto kill especially the weaker ones and for him to use stronger ones take more time an leave him vulnerable

    nagato has more destructve power than itachi but itachi's advantages in genjutsu, speed and intelligence lets him take the battle.
    go back to itachi vs pain thread you'll see there that majority of the poster agreed with my points or have the same point as mine.

    1. saving naruto and bee is out of equation coz he can just stab nagato at the back but he didn't do.. that's what im saying CT was fast that they can't react in time. before anyone notice CT was already pulling them and tsukuyomi/hitting nagato was not an option itachi chose.

    2. summons won't just stand there and let them be hit by kunais when they face off 1on1. the bird flies above how can a clone reach that? lol and before itachi can disable all of them he'll be pulled by banshou tenin and use human path to take off itachi's soul. again the focus will be on itachi already.

    3. and gravity isn't a force that can be block by a shield. it would be much logical if you said itachi can just use susanoo arm to grab onto something. nagato use shinra tensei depending on situation. that means if he use shinra against susanoo it'll be a strong one thus means itachi cant just do counter attack after that. again other paths are available even if shinra is in cooldown.

    4. speed is not an advantage against nagato. bee and naruto are both faster than itachi but they got caught eventually.

    genjutsu is the only way itachi can win. but seeing my points nagato can counter it.

    nagato still has ALOT in his arsenal that aren't even mentioned.
     
         
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