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    suiton training with nathan

    As hayama gets to the field so excited because it was his first training he patiently waits for his sensei
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    'Ello there!

    Okay please tell me then.
    1. Why do you want to learn suiton?
    2. What is suiton weakness and why?
    3. What is sution strong against and why?
    4. 5 users who use suiton?
    5. 2 KG that have suiton?

    Using as much detail as you can, please. :D
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    I believe suiton (water) is a calm element and can be used as both offense and defence suiton is weak against doton (earth) because earth has porous spaces that enables it to easily absorb water suiton is strong again katon (fire) because it is know that water kills fire suiton is generally used by a lot of people examples of which are the hozuki clan members, hatake clan members (which generally has all elements), suigetsu, mangetsu and for the kg's all i can say is that suiton combines with other elements to for kg e.g suiton with doton to form wood, suiton with raiton forms gale, and users of these are gale (darui), wood (yamato, hashirama) some also say that others like obito, madara, danzo and others have wood realease but i personally have not seen most of them use it before
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Okay let's start this again. You answered some of my questions, but not all. Use the Narutowikia, and this forum. This forum has the information, with Narutowikia. Do not copy paste. USE YOUR OWN WORDS. Use it as a guild.

    What is water release? Both in the Narutoverse and in real life?
    Who were some of the well known users to use water in Naruto?

    suiton is weak against doton (earth) because earth has porous spaces that enables it to easily absorb water suiton is strong again katon (fire) because it is know that water kills fire

    More or less correct. The wording could have been better but you hit the nail on the head with that one.

    Word of advice, space your answers out, don't pile them all into one thing. It is hard to make sense of it, and which part is to which question.
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    1 Water is one of the basic elemental nature transformation that allows the user to manipulate pre-existing water, or create their own by turning their chakra into water it is more difficult to create water from their body or to expel it from their mouth than to manipulate pre-existing water. Water cannot only change shape but can also change state.
    2 Water is strong against fire because it naturally extinguishes the flames (though a sufficiently fire technique can cause evaporation).
    3 water is weak against earth because earth structures can dissipate the force of water thereby rendering the technique ineffective
    4 water technique in conjuction with lightning increases the flow of electricity thereby increasing the damage taken by the target and in conjuction with wind technique increases the overall destruction power of the water technique
    5 water is a component of the following kg: (ice, wood, storm, boil) release
    6 some of the water release users are: tobirama senju, kisame hoshigaki, suigetsu, mangetsu, e.t.c kakashi,
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Better, but I said use the wikia as a guide. Not to copy and paste it, so

    " Water is one of the basic elemental nature transformation that allows the user to manipulate pre-existing water, or create their own by turning their chakra into water it is more difficult to create water from their body or to expel it from their mouth than to manipulate pre-existing water. Water cannot only change shape but can also change state."

    This part, use your own words. I know you copied.
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    I did but i changed a few words
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Quote Originally Posted by shonnen View Post
    I did but i changed a few words
    It would be wise not to lie about it. You changed like one word. Use your OWN words.

     
         
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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Please can we begin the training
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Quote Originally Posted by shonnen View Post
    Please can we begin the training
    Please can you do what I ask. I want you to use your own words, why is that so hard?
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Water is part of the fundamental elements it gives the user the ability to control water or spit it out from their mouth but it takes much more chakra to spit it out of the mouth than to manipulate the water that is already existing water as an element also has the ability to change its shape according to the user's will and becomes more solid in the process.
    Water is strong against fire because it is well known that water extinguishes fire.
    Water is weak against earth because earth structures destroys the forces that holds the molecules of water together thereby separating water molecules and makes the water to collapse.
    Water can combine with the other elements to increase its damage on the opponent.
    The following kekkei genkai's contains water: (ice, wood, storm and boil) release.
    Water release users include the following: darui, conch king, amachi, tobirama, kakashi, three tails turtle, fuka, fukasaku, gamabunta goku, giant crustacean, gamariki, gamatatsu, haku and his family, hiruko, hisame, hoki, kisame, hotaru, suigetsu, mangetsu, danzo, shibuki, hashirama, nagato, zabuza, kinkaku, oboro and others they are too many to mention
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    I only asked you to rewrite what is water release, nothing else. >_>

    Now I want you to take this piece of paper that I hand you, and try and gather up your water chakra and then try and focus it into the paper if done correctly the paper should be damp in your hands.

    Use detail, not just one line or two. Use your own words, don't copy other people's work, if you do I will know.
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    As hayama collects the piece of paper, he concentrates his chakra on the paper and focuses real hard to turn his chakra to water and then turn his chakra to water to make the paper damp
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Didn't work, please try again. Tell me how you feel, once you have done it correctly.
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Hayama collects the piece of paper and gathers up his suiton chakra on the paper concentrating hard on it and with further concentration the chakra turns into water and makes the paper damp.
    Doing this, hayama jumps up with joy "i think i did it and also i dont know why but i feel a little weak"
     
         
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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Okay. How does the water make you feel?
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    It makes me feel calm, since water is calm and moves freely
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Good. That is what I wanted to hear, we can start one techniques now.

    This is the template you are going to use:

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    B]One/three disadvantages:[/B]
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    B]How you would use it in battle:[/B]
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    B]How you would counter it:[/B]
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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    No questions sensei
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Let's begin then.

    (Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique
    Rank: D
    Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
    Range: Short-Mid
    Damage Points:20
    Description: Creates small waves of water,small blasts, and small shields of water.
    Note: Doesn't require a water source but can be used to manipulate existing water.

    Simply gather a small amount of suiton chakra up in your hands then release small waves of water or blasts or shields of water.
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    One/three advantages:
    • 1.it serves as a multiple purpose jutsu
    • 2.it requires no hand
    • 3.

    One/three disadvantages:
    • 1. It only gets up to midrange
    • 2. It is weak against earth
    • 3.

    How you woulduseit in battle: i would use it mainly for defence
    How you would counter it: i would use a blast of wind (d rank)
    How you perform it(withasmuch detailasyou can): i begin by building up my chakra after building enough i then nature manipulate it into suiton chakra which i realease from my palm and shape manipulate it into a shield
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    One/three advantages:
    1.it serves as a multiple purpose jutsu
    2.it requires no hand -
    3.


    One/three disadvantages:
    1. It only gets up to midrange
    2. It is weak against earth
    3.

    Must more creative then this, I want to hear ones. Not obvious ones, like the ones you gave.

    How you woulduseit in battle: i would use it mainly for defence

    And how else would you use it?

    -

    Also when we get to C-ranks I expect much more detail when performing the techniques.
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    One/three advantages:
    • 1. It can be used for both offense and defense
    • 2. It can be performed successfully without handseals
    • 3. The water can be created from the mouth or by manipulating the water in a water source

    One/three disadvantages:
    • 1. It cannot exceed mid range
    • 2. It can be destroyed by a fire jutsu that is a rank higher than it
    • 3.

    How you would use it in battle: I would use the water blast to push my opponent into an already made attack and the wave as defense to bloke incoming attacks from the opponent
    How you would counter it: I would counter it by earth (earth pillar), fire (fire ball), wind (blast of wind)
    How you perform it(withasmuch detailasyou can): i begin by building up my chakra after building enough i then nature manipulate it into suiton chakra which i realease from my palm and shape manipulate it into a shield
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    Eh, pretty much the same as last.

    One/three disadvantages:
    1. It cannot exceed mid range

    Can you not think of anything besides that? I do not want this as one every single time.
     
         

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    Re: suiton training with nathan

    One/three disadvantages:
    [LIST][*]1. It can only be done by a water user that has learned the jutsu.[*]2. It can be blocked by a justu from any element which is in the same rank with the jutsu (except fire).[*]3. It can only be taught by a sensei.[*]
     
         

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