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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

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    do you remember being 9 months old? 8, 7? neither do i. do i remember being spanked on the ass when i was born? nope. therefor i would have no complain in not existing.
    So you're saying the baby who isn't born or a baby born without the abilities of having memory yet is alright to be discarded?
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless View Post
    What if it wasn't irresponsibility? What if it was a case of rape? Wouldn't the girl have a reason to abort the baby now?
    I see you are playing Devil's Advocate. Well played, sir. Well played.
     
         
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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by uzumakikenshin View Post
    pro-life...

    KILLING generally for me is wrong..
    Some people say that having an abortion is just like taking out a tumor. So if they are under the same category, how is this killing?
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by HereticPassage View Post
    I see you are playing Devil's Advocate. Well played, sir. Well plated.
    Haha, just putting logical reasons, my friend :D
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

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    When I read the Atheism thread and the Religion Vs Science threads, I can't help but think of the many controversial topics we could also talk about. I made the same thread like this years ago but I want to know everybody's opinion on this topic of Abortion.

    First of all what is Abortion?
    Abortion is defined as the termination of pregnancy by the removal or expulsion from the uterus of a fetus or embryo before it is viable.

    Are you pro-life? Or pro-choice.

    Pro-life: Opposition to the legalization of abortion is centered around the pro-life, or anti-abortion, movement, a political movement opposing elective abortion on moral grounds and supporting its legal prohibition or restriction.

    Pro-choice: Support for the legalization of abortion, called the pro-choice movement by its proponents, is a political movement encompassing the ethical view that a woman should have the legal right to terminate her own pregnancy.

    So which side do you take? And why?

    Keep the responses clean though :D


    I'm pro-choice.
    Reasons. If the women was raped. Would you want that child? I know I wouldn't.
     
         
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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly X View Post
    Pro-choice. It doesn't cause harm to anyone. If you think that aborting a baby is wrong, it is. But you aren't aborting a baby, you are getting rid of a small group of cells that haven't even developed into anything yet. You would kill more cells by scratching than having an abortion. If it was a living breathing thing, then I would have a huge problem. But you gotta learn when to draw the line.
    Doesn't the potential or the cells going to become human matter? I think it does.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless View Post
    Some people say that having an abortion is just like taking out a tumor. So if they are under the same category, how is this killing?
    no fair lol that the hitler trick make the people u killin not human something inhuman like subhuman or devils etc
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless View Post
    So you're saying the baby who isn't born or a baby born without the abilities of having memory yet is alright to be discarded?
    its wrong in the ethical, civilized sense. as the only civilized species we have to be greater than the animal. but in a practical sense its not wrong.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless View Post
    Some people say that having an abortion is just like taking out a tumor. So if they are under the same category, how is this killing?
    A tumour can't grow a heart and a brain.
    A tumour can never think on its own or have its own opinion
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    The core of the abortion argument is basically the definition of what a human being is...So if you think a group of human cells is a human being then your pro-life but is someone in a coma a human?
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless View Post
    Some people say that having an abortion is just like taking out a tumor. So if they are under the same category, how is this killing?
    a tumor would not basically evolves to an alive human being..


    while the fetus does... so it's like taking the fetus chance to live...
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by tacobelt View Post
    do you remember being 9 months old? 8, 7? neither do i. do i remember being spanked on the ass when i was born? nope. therefor i would have no complain in not existing.
    what a shallow minded reasoning, the fact that you cannot complain at that age/period doesn't change the fact that the act is unjust on the fetus part.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Forgetting the moral issues (which is all abortion is about), there is the rights issue. Once the government can force you to do something with your own body, it is a massive leap backwards in the individual rights system. Also, im pretty sure it can be argued that it goes against the U.S. Constitution (if you live in the US, of course).
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    I guess the debate that rages on concerning abortion is the period where life starts. Does life start at conception? Or at the moment of birth?
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by HereticPassage View Post
    Forgetting the moral issues (which is all abortion is about), there is the rights issue. Once the government can force you to do something with your own body, it is a massive leap backwards in the individual rights system. Also, im pretty sure it can be argued that it goes against the U.S. Constitution (if you live in the US, of course).
    word im also pro choice in weed goverment need to give us our mothering rights back!
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by HereticPassage View Post
    Forgetting the moral issues (which is all abortion is about), there is the rights issue. Once the government can force you to do something with your own body, it is a massive leap backwards in the individual rights system. Also, im pretty sure it can be argued that it goes against the U.S. Constitution (if you live in the US, of course).
    I see your point, but how about the fetuses? Aren't they considered "individuals" as well?
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless View Post
    I guess the debate that rages on concerning abortion is the period where life starts. Does life start at conception? Or at the moment of birth?
    Life isn't possible without birth. Birth isn't possible without the conception.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Definitely Pro-Life with the exception of rape or in cases where the mother's life is at risk. If two people are dumb enough to have unprotected sex but don't want a baby, it's unfair that the baby has to die because of their irresponsibility.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

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    I see your point, but how about the fetuses? Aren't they considered "individuals" as well?
    Ah, but it is not their decision to make when it comes to the mother. They couldn't make the decision even if they were asked, considering they are not fully conscious of themselves and the world around them.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by IntrovertedKittenNinja View Post
    Definitely Pro-Life with the exception of rape. If two people are dumb enough to have unprotected sex but don't want a baby, it's unfair that the baby has to die because of their irresponsibility.
    Still, a life is a life, as pro-life people would say. Are you saying that the life of the baby is less significant if it was formed through rape compared to those who were formed normally?
     
         

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