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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by IntrovertedKittenNinja View Post
    No lol you totally misunderstood. What I mean is, when you have unprotected sex consensually you have to be aware of the risks of pregnancy and be responsible for these risks.

    However, since Rape is non-consensual, the mother never wanted to have a baby, or have sex in the first place. Therefore an unfair responsibility is placed on her. Here's where the morality issue of abortion gets sketchy for me.
    Yes I understand. Here's my question though: What has a higher priority? The unfair responsibility placed on the mother or the fetus' capability to live?
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Pro-choice because I think it is way too better. Just like... more.. freedom.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

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    Pro-choice because I think it is way too better. Just like... more.. freedom.
    And how about the freedom of the baby?
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless View Post
    Yes I understand. Here's my question though: What has a higher priority? The unfair responsibility placed on the mother or the fetus' capability to live?
    may i just say your a devil with wordin gettin the mind to think both ways o.0
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    I'm with Swizzik.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

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    Yes I understand. Here's my question though: What has a higher priority? The unfair responsibility placed on the mother or the fetus' capability to live?
    That's why I said it get's sketchy for me. All I can firmly believe in for sure is that in the case of consensual sex, the man and woman should know the risks and assume responsibility for them...
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by Capn FlapJak View Post
    may i just say your a devil with wordin gettin the mind to think both ways o.0
    Haha sorry, I usually do this when I'm interested in a debate
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless View Post
    Yes I understand. Here's my question though: What has a higher priority? The unfair responsibility placed on the mother or the fetus' capability to live?
    Everyone deserves a chance at life and that goes for foetuses as well . . . No matter how the foetus came about . . . At least that's my thought on this :/ .
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    personally im pro life if your going to have sex then you shoud prepare for the conciquences not to mention how unfair that the man gets no say in the matter half of that life is his he should be able to say he wants to keep it

    however with that being said i always vote prochoice because if we take away the abortion clinics women will just go to back alley abotion clinics and end up having someone with no medical experience atempting to abort a kid and end up killing not only the child but the women as well
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by IntrovertedKittenNinja View Post
    That's why I said it get's sketchy for me. All I can firmly believe in for sure is that in the case of consensual sex, the man and woman should know the risks and assume responsibility for them...
    I for one agree with whole consensual thing. A person must not be put to death due to other people's mistakes.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

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    Yes I understand. Here's my question though: What has a higher priority? The unfair responsibility placed on the mother or the fetus' capability to live?
    i would still prioritize the fetus right to live...



    as for the unfair responsibility placed on the mother...

    ADOPTION is the best choice...


    @faceless: I clearly remember that thread of yours... and I also posted the same things im saying right now, yet again..
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

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    I for one agree with whole consensual thing. A person must not be put to death due to other people's mistakes.
    but can you kill a mass of cells undefined for a persons mistakes.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

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    Because I was the same member who created the old thread and since it's against the rules to bump an old thread, I just made a new one
    and u are not satisfied with the 6 pages of replies that u got ~_~
    mehh whatever..
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

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    How about fetuses that are at there 6th to 8th month already? They're not longer a small group of cells, most of there body parts are fully developed already? Would it still be okay to abort the baby?
    of course that wouldnt be okay at that point in pregnancy abortion is illegal. The baby has the tools to survive on its own through hospitalization of course.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by uzumakikenshin View Post
    i would still prioritize the fetus right to live...



    as for the unfair responsibility placed on the mother...

    ADOPTION is the best choice...


    @faceless: I clearly remember that thread of yours... and I also posted the same things im saying right now, yet again..
    Sorry, I couldn't resist =]

    Anyways, in light of what you said about adoption. Isn't it a very emotional thing for someone to give birth to something they don't want? Wouldn't this scar the person?
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavens Blade View Post
    personally im pro life if your going to have sex then you shoud prepare for the conciquences not to mention how unfair that the man gets no say in the matter half of that life is his he should be able to say he wants to keep it

    however with that being said i always vote prochoice because if we take away the abortion clinics women will just go to back alley abotion clinics and end up having someone with no medical experience atempting to abort a kid and end up killing not only the child but the women as well
    Very good point. Unqualified "nurses" who do abortions illegally, increasing the chance of disease, and maybe even creating new strains of pathogens in the process.
     
         

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    Re: Pro-life or Pro-choice? Abortion O_O

    Quote Originally Posted by uzumakikenshin View Post
    i would still prioritize the fetus right to live...



    as for the unfair responsibility placed on the mother...

    ADOPTION is the best choice...


    @faceless: I clearly remember that thread of yours... and I also posted the same things im saying right now, yet again..
    I agree with you . . . The foetus is alive as well just as everyone of us is . . . If anything , the mother could at least put the unwanted baby up for adoption . . . It's not as if the foetus gets to choose whose child it would be . . .
     
         

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