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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by 8thHokage View Post
    without religion, people kill people, with religion, more people kill more people.. murder and war is gonna happen regardless, religion jus intensifies it..
    W/o people there will be no war. W/ people there will be war.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism which argues that life is without objective meaning. not boring it frees up a lot of time that would be spent in church or praying to nothing. Iwas raised baptist i read the bible cover to cover and when i was old enough to choose i chose to stop going and do something worth while on sunday mornings sleep in.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Who's heard of Laminin?
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Its still people that killed.
    I think you're discrimination Islam here.

    Yet its still a person that kills right? Using their OPINION as an excuse to kill still means that the person killed.
    Exactly. Wars just uses different facades to hide their objective which mostly resolves around one thing only - power.

    Seeking for power, defending your power, asserting your power, revolt against a power and scaring with power - these are wars.

    Religions ect... are just excuses.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Escorpiius View Post
    I deleted the other parts because you just related negativity (war) with religions. There was no supportive post on wars and religion afterwards.

    Elaborate then cause' you went against religion on a war basis without any backup. Like Hyperion said, there's no war that's been caused by religion except perhaps religious wars which are like religious conflicts and few take war proportions.
    Aren't religious wars by definition wars?:shrug:
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    [QUOTE=Hyperion;4572988]Its still people that killed.
    I think you're discrimination Islam here.


    not at all
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatsuuga View Post
    Just because someone is an atheist doesn't make them hateful. I am atheist, and despite the fact that I think that the concept of god is stupid, I also understand that peoples faith brings them much comfort and makes alot of people happy. If you find something in your life that makes you happy than i'm all for it. I only disagree when people try to convert others to that concept and treat them like they are wrong or not yet worthy of something because they dont 'believe'.

    So I guess you could say im an atheist, without problems with personal faith as long as it isn't enforced on others.
    i salut you sir.... agreed..... neutral FTW!!
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

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    W/o people there will be no war. W/ people there will be war.
    thats an excellent thought my friend.. may i ask the point of it?
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Its still people that killed.
    I think you're discrimination Islam here.


    Yet its still a person that kills right? Using their OPINION as an excuse to kill still means that the person killed.
    Hahhah, then the religion motivated them to kill.
    This settles well with you?
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by 8thHokage View Post
    thats an excellent thought my friend.. may i ask the point of it?
    *JOKE*
    well cant you tell?..... he's suicide bomber
    *joke end*
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Fizama View Post
    Hahhah, then the religion motivated them to kill.
    This settles well with you?
    So does religion make decisions for people? NO!
    People make decisions. People kill. That is a fact in both Religion and Science.
    Its called FREE WILL!
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Escorpiius View Post
    Elaborate then cause' you went against religion on a war basis without any backup. Like Hyperion said, there's no war that's been caused by religion except perhaps religious wars which are like religious conflicts and few take war proportions.
    See there? That's a much better approach.
    I have no intentions of arguing in a religion thread so if we can all respect each other, nothing bad will happen and there will be no need to close the thread.

    To keep it short,
    I understand that you guys are saying people cause it for the most part.
    But it is the factor of different beliefs that does contribute to disliking following up to war if not properly dealt with.
    I'm not saying its caused a extremely profuse amount of wars.
    I'm just saying it is a factor in conflict.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    i love Canada!... the diversity ensures that Canada will not fight a religious war to win..... but to protect


    ... someone quote me if i get famous alright
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatsuuga View Post
    Aren't religious wars by definition wars?:shrug:
    Not really!

    War Definition: A state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

    Rebellion definition: An act of violent or open resistance to an established government or ruler.

    What's the difference? A war got more important scale and proportions. In this way, religious wars/conflicts rarely take those scale.

    Tell me one religious wars that was a religious wars to the core without turning into normal political war. There are none to my knowledge. Most took a political stand at a point and the others remain in the abyss if being simple revolts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fizama View Post
    Hahhah, then the religion motivated them to kill.
    This settles well with you?
    Nope, they used religion to hide their objectives. Religion neither caused wars nor motivated wars.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    blame canada blame canada
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    what about the crusades man full out religion war
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Escorpiius View Post
    Not really!

    War Definition: A state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

    Rebellion definition: An act of violent or open resistance to an established government or ruler.

    What's the difference? A war got more important scale and proportions. In this way, religious wars/conflicts rarely take those scale.

    Tell me one religious wars that was a religious wars to the core without turning into normal political war. There are none to my knowledge. Most took a political stand at a point and the others remain in the abyss if being simple revolts.


    Nope, they used religion to hide their objectives. Religion neither caused wars nor motivated wars.

    i would think it would be wrong to hide behind a religion....... sad world we live in....although i dont agree with you %100
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Escorpiius View Post
    Not really!

    War Definition: A state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

    Rebellion definition: An act of violent or open resistance to an established government or ruler.

    What's the difference? A war got more important scale and proportions. In this way, religious wars/conflicts rarely take those scale.

    Tell me one religious wars that was a religious wars to the core without turning into normal political war. There are none to my knowledge. Most took a political stand at a point and the others remain in the abyss if being simple revolts.



    Nope, they used religion to hide their objectives. Religion neither caused wars nor motivated wars.
    Read the Old Testament.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    kinda funny how the op just land an hay-maker than ran out the ring
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by zombiejesus View Post
    what about the crusades man full out religion war
    i was about to mention that "EH"
     
         

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