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    what about the crusades man full out religion war
    Thats a religious war, yet it was still people that killed
     
         

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    I believe in god with all my heart I mean there was so many times that I could have died but I always pulled through not only that but I sure as He** didn't grow from an ape :mad: so believe what you want but word of advice you might wanna start changing your life around cause if you really think about it whos to say your going to wake up the next day :shrug: so when the time comes that you do pass away let me know how things down below is going for you I mean I know it sure don't feel good to burn over and over again for years and while your having fun burning im going to be laying on a nice fluffy cloud :D
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    you are all so ignorant
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

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    See there? That's a much better approach.
    I have no intentions of arguing in a religion thread so if we can all respect each other, nothing bad will happen and there will be no need to close the thread.

    To keep it short,
    I understand that you guys are saying people cause it for the most part.
    But it is the factor of different beliefs that does contribute to disliking following up to war if not properly dealt with.
    I'm not saying its caused a extremely profuse amount of wars.
    I'm just saying it is a factor in conflict.
    This thread will be closed whatsoever. I know this for having seen the obvious fate of 1000 other threads like this. So, just state your point.

    And as you said , it caused conflicts which may be true as in religious conflicts but I don't think it applies for wars. Implications of religions on war motives are just a veneer for me. The implications/factor are so minim that it is negligible. Religion is involved in wars but only as a masquerade not to profuse, intensifies, motivates or to generate wars.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Can we stop these threads.....seriously nobody is going to agree with the other so its kind of pointless.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

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    Not really!

    War Definition: A state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

    Rebellion definition: An act of violent or open resistance to an established government or ruler.

    What's the difference? A war got more important scale and proportions. In this way, religious wars/conflicts rarely take those scale.

    Tell me one religious wars that was a religious wars to the core without turning into normal political war. There are none to my knowledge. Most took a political stand at a point and the others remain in the abyss if being simple revolts.



    Nope, they used religion to hide their objectives. Religion neither caused wars nor motivated wars.
    I would hardly consider the war between Israel and Palestine a 'religious rebellion'
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

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    I believe in god with all my heart I mean there was so many times that I could have died but I always pulled through not only that but I sure as He** didn't grow from an ape :mad: so believe what you want but word of advice you might wanna start changing your life around cause if you really think about it whos to say your going to wake up the next day :shrug: so when the time comes that you do pass away let me know how things down below is going for you I mean I know it sure don't feel good to burn over and over again for years and while your having fun burning im going to be laying on a nice fluffy cloud :D
    We didn't come from apes. Don't say your sure just say you believe.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    as someone once said, "for those who believe in God, no explanation is necessary, for those who don't believe, no explanation is possible"

    I just want to leave it at this, oh and this site here for those who want facts, there are a lot of stories so take your time, it basically show the prophecy of the bible in the current world today. but looks even further if it pleases you.

    http://www.bibleinthenews.com/home/
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Thats a religious war, yet it was still people that killed
    You say God gives us free will yet he destroyed Sodom and Gomorah for not being righteous enough.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachilover94 View Post
    I believe in god with all my heart I mean there was so many times that I could have died but I always pulled through not only that but I sure as He** didn't grow from an ape :mad: so believe what you want but word of advice you might wanna start changing your life around cause if you really think about it whos to say your going to wake up the next day :shrug: so when the time comes that you do pass away let me know how things down below is going for you I mean I know it sure don't feel good to burn over and over again for years and while your having fun burning im going to be laying on a nice fluffy cloud :D
    !
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizzik View Post
    You say God gives us free will yet he destroyed Sodom and Gomorah for not being righteous enough.
    Hey! They had a choice! But, the alternative was suffering.
    Hrm. Choiiiice
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

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    as someone once said, "for those who believe in God, no explanation is necessary, for those who don't believe, no explanation is possible"

    I just want to leave it at this, oh and this site here for those who want facts, there are a lot of stories so take your time, it basically show the prophecy of the bible in the current world today. but looks even further if it pleases you.

    http://www.bibleinthenews.com/home/
    Yet I remember my days chilling in Sunday school.
    Why do you keep posting this conspiracy site.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizzik View Post
    You say God gives us free will yet he destroyed Sodom and Gomorah for not being righteous enough.
    Do I have to explain this?
    Did you read just the Old testament? Some parts of it? Or none?
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Thats a religious war, yet it was still people that killed
    i know it was people but religion was there reason. thats like saying guns dont kill people people kill people i get that i am just saying they use that as an excuse to kill people
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Do I have to explain this?
    Did you read just the Old testament? Some parts of it? Or none?
    I should correct myself with my earlier post.
    Let's leave the old testament out of this.
    For your sake.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachilover94 View Post
    I believe in god with all my heart I mean there was so many times that I could have died but I always pulled through not only that but I sure as He** didn't grow from an ape :mad: so believe what you want but word of advice you might wanna start changing your life around cause if you really think about it whos to say your going to wake up the next day :shrug: so when the time comes that you do pass away let me know how things down below is going for you I mean I know it sure don't feel good to burn over and over again for years and while your having fun burning im going to be laying on a nice fluffy cloud :D
    You make a good point that people should live there life's to the fullest because they may not wake up the next day. But I think that that is a better to do it for the reason that life is so fragile. Being complacent with your life is not reasonable just because you assume you are going to be sitting on a cloud for all eternity.

    Also anyone with some background in evolution will tell you that you are correct humans did not evolve from 'modern' apes. Instead they shared a common ancestor that diverged.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by zombiejesus View Post
    what about the crusades man full out religion war
    Yes, it was an religion war but...

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    A religious war is a war caused by, or justified by, religious differences. It can involve one state with an established religion against another state with a different religion or a different sect within the same religion, or a religiously motivated group attempting to spread its faith by violence, or to suppress another group because of its religious beliefs or practices. The Muslim conquests, the French Wars of Religion, the Crusades, and the Reconquista are frequently cited historical examples.
    All the 4 were historical wars. You really relate any of those wars with actual wars of today. They are religious wars but I believe, it was because there were no real assertion and crave/greed for power as there is today. There's no war in today's time whose motives are for religious sake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatsuuga View Post
    I would hardly consider the war between Israel and Palestine a 'religious rebellion'
    The Holy War took political instances afterwards and in fact, real motives were indeed the fight for power. Another war started in the name of religion which in short, was nothing of the sort.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Do I have to explain this?
    Did you read just the Old testament? Some parts of it? Or none?
    I get what your saying but why does God have to judge us if he gave us free will
    wouldn't judging us mean that he wants some people to go to hell and wants others to go to heaven, but yet he loves all of us?
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

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    All the 4 were historical wars. You really relate any of those wars with actual wars of today. They are religious wars but I believe, it was because there were no real assertion and crave/greed for power as there is today. There's no war in today's time whose motives are for religious sake.
    Don't the Sunnis and Shiites bomb each other all the time?
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

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    Yes, it was an religion war but...



    All the 4 were historical wars. You really relate any of those wars with actual wars of today. They are religious wars but I believe, it was because there were no real assertion and crave/greed for power as there is today. There's no war in today's time whose motives are for religious sake.



    The Holy War took political instances afterwards and in fact, real motives were indeed the fight for power. Another war started in the name of religion which in short, was nothing of the sort.
    I like how have been holding your own here, calmly.
    Although, I do wonder if you are actually stating facts. You did say, "I believe", however.
     
         

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