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    Re: god doesn't exist

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    yes people do start war but it is over differnces those people have most of witch is religion and women or money and power but mostly religion
    Quote Originally Posted by Fizama View Post
    Hahhah, then the religion motivated them to kill.
    This settles well with you?

    do not blame religion... blame them to people who started wars and hide their true intentions of killing or capturing nations saying their religions tell them so..

    you are saying that THEIST started wars and some crimes but it goes the same to those who dont believe in deities...

    @FIZAMA.. you always say that you dont believe in such stuffs.. but i just want to remind you that in ACKEEM's thread you just said that you believe in a higher power... right? so what now? you are contradicting yourself?


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    You say God gives us free will yet he destroyed Sodom and Gomorah for not being righteous enough.
    -he give us freewill but he will never let us go unscathed...
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Oh, ragnaroc is gonna lay down the banhammer...
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Fizama View Post
    I like how have been holding your own here, calmly.
    Although, I do wonder if you are actually stating facts. You did say, "I believe", however.
    I said "I believe" because:

    1. I was elaborating on something that occurs centuries ago, not in front of my eyes.
    2. I'm not asserting my opinion.
    3. It's free for anyone to contradict me if they got facts/proofs to what they are saying.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by uzumakikenshin View Post
    do not blame religion... blame them to people who started wars and hide their true intentions of killing or capturing nations saying their religions tell them so..

    you are saying that THEIST started wars and some crimes but it goes the same to those who dont believe in deities...

    @FIZAMA.. you always say that you dont believe in such stuffs.. but i just want to remind you that in ACKEEM's thread you just said that you believe in a higher power... right? so what now? you are contradicting yourself?




    -he give us freewill but he will never let us go unscathed...
    Actually, they interpreted it as a BELIEF in a higher power. You can link my post if you want.
    Saying that an environment that allows survival is a higher power is an interesting way to try to make an argument.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    why would anyone get banned we are discussing this rationally no one is pissed or anything
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

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    Yet I remember my days chilling in Sunday school.
    Why do you keep posting this conspiracy site.
    and you prove this quote to be true, not even bothering to investigate any further, you say it's conspiracy. If someone can show that events that was predicted in the bible are actually happening, and one want facts of God's existence, why not look into it?:shrug:
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    These threads always descend into conflict, based on the polarising views of those involved. And this is not surprising considering it is a polarising subject. Each side, most time through ignorance, incorrectly sites facts from the opposing side, which insights further argument.

    I dont think I will comment on a religious thread again, but i will say the following. I highly doubt this subject will be solved on narutobase, so I propose we come to a mutual agreement. We should all agree that there is a god, but that god is the sage of six paths.

    fwoo...... now lets get back to the good stuff like who is tobi haha
     
         
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    oh well like i said before we could go on for ever and never agree so i am going to go on that nice talking to you guys and i hope they dont close this or ban anyone later peeps
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Escorpiius View Post
    I said "I believe" because:

    1. I was elaborated on something that occurs centuries ago, not in front of my eyes.
    2. I'm not asserting my opinion.
    3. It's free for anyone to contradict me if they got facts/proofs to what they are saying.
    So, honestly, is it a fact that they were 100% masking other motives with religion?
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    wow... now its on hottest threads.... jesus christ... who does exist
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    I would like to know what consequences, punishment or (cant find the word....) just treatment?... i would get for my belief from your gods/religion (please write them down in reply)? i am very curious

    Would your gods punish me, respect my descision or simply ignore me?(i am not familiar in depth with the books and scripts of many beliefs)

    I am a very religiously neutral boy who does not try to convince anyone to convert or join any religion, cult or belief... i just say the facts to what i already know....
    I believe that there is a "higher power" somewhere ... whether it is a supreme being or mother nature.... i do not like the word god because it has been twisted and warped over the years and represents too many religions and confusion is inevitable... the word is simply to strong and dangerous in my opinion....
    I do not base any morals off of my belief... i simply just do what feels right.... to respect everyone, try my hardest and have a good, fun life.... i am not super dedicated to my belief as it is not very specific and detailed....
    I believe people can practice there religion anywhere they want but if it causes conflicts then it must be banned in the specific location (e.x. school) no limits unless comfortable (e.x. church)
     
         
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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Fizama View Post
    I should correct myself with my earlier post.
    Let's leave the old testament out of this.
    For your sake.
    Ok, I'm going to be str8 with you... Don't get involved, you're just going to confuse!
    Quote Originally Posted by Swizzik View Post
    I get what your saying but why does God have to judge us if he gave us free will
    wouldn't judging us mean that he wants some people to go to hell and wants others to go to heaven, but yet he loves all of us?
    I'm not going to preach and act like I have all the answers coz I don't. But I know no one should ever feel like they need to impress God for better judgment, its up to you what you want to do with your life.
    Again, I'm not going to preach like some other ignorant people here on NB!
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by yama View Post
    and you prove this quote to be true, not even bothering to investigate any further, you say it's conspiracy. If someone can show that events that was predicted in the bible are actually happening, and one want facts of God's existence, why not look into it?:shrug:
    Most of the bibles predictions are obvious guesses that obviously come true, It's like predicting that a baby will be born next year and he will do great things in his life.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Fizama View Post
    Actually, they interpreted it as a BELIEF in a higher power. You can link my post if you want.
    Saying that an environment that allows survival is a higher power is an interesting way to try to make an argument.
    i can... but i wont.. you know what you just said in there...

    "you got me there.." -remember this.. i need not to quote it i remember it pretty well...


    RELIGIONS got what they called FAITH

    NON BELIEVERS got what they called REASON


    and for others who still blame religions for human's wrong doings:

    it's like blaming to the the inventor of guns (who's sole intention is to protect people), the crimes of the criminals who use it for their selfish dark interests...
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Ok, I'm going to be str8 with you... Don't get involved, you're just going to confuse!


    I'm not going to preach and act like I have all the answers coz I don't. But I know no one should ever feel like they need to impress God for better judgment, its up to you what you want to do with your life.
    Again, I'm not going to preach like some other ignorant people here on NB!
    Ha, confuse.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Ok, I'm going to be str8 with you... Don't get involved, you're just going to confuse!


    I'm not going to preach and act like I have all the answers coz I don't. But I know no one should ever feel like they need to impress God for better judgment, its up to you what you want to do with your life.
    Again, I'm not going to preach like some other ignorant people here on NB!
    I am not ignorant LOL. I know the Bible quite well actually but the thing is the creation story is flawed, if there was a higher power I think the people who edited the Bible left some really important things out.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by uzumakikenshin View Post
    i can... but i wont.. you know what you just said in there...

    "you got me there.." -remember this.. i need not to quote it i remember it pretty well...


    RELIGIONS got what they called FAITH

    NON BELIEVERS got what they called REASON


    and for others who still blame religions for human's wrong doings:

    it's like blaming to the the inventor of guns (who's sole intention is to protect people), the crimes of the criminals who use it for their selfish dark interests...
    So you basically admitted your not reasonable .
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by uzumakikenshin View Post
    i can... but i wont.. you know what you just said in there...

    "you got me there.." -remember this.. i need not to quote it i remember it pretty well...


    RELIGIONS got what they called FAITH

    NON BELIEVERS got what they called REASON


    and for others who still blame religions for human's wrong doings:

    it's like blaming to the the inventor of guns who's sole intention is to protect people the crimes of the criminals who use it for their selfish dark interests...
    Dear lord. *giggle*
    I thought that was easily detected sarcasm.
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizzik View Post
    I am not ignorant LOL. I know the Bible quite well actually but the thing is the creation story is flawed, if there was a higher power I think the people who edited the Bible left some really important things out.
    it has honestly been edited over a billion times..... and they've merged many together
     
         

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    Re: god doesn't exist

    A block of ice melts. This allows organisms to thrive in the water.
    Where's the higher power?
     
         

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