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    hahaha

    Naruto: This is the final duel, Sasuke.
    Sasuke: Tch.. dead last will never compare to me...
    Naruto: *whips it out*
    Sasuke: ......... T_T
     
         

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    my answer =*
    ..lol right -.-' kishi just tricked us all


    i think everybody can see that's the thing who's naruto "EATING" is one of itachi's genjutsu birds. Itachi gave him Susano'o & Totsuka Sword combined with the Yata mirror. Naruto shud be able to block attacks from sasuke against the village with it. The village /or the 'lil piece whos left of it/ wud be invincible.


    he also said: (itachi)
    hope you never have to use it
    knowing kishi, it'll be a surprise, sumthing none of us have even thought of.

    it just cud be everything

    I remember that the 4th sealed the bijuu that way, separating the dark and light chakra, a sorta yin yang thing, and that naruto can only use the yang part.
    Also from somewhere, that some uchiha (or atleast madara) has the ability to control bijuu/the kyuubi, maybe itachi figured out how to do this from madara aswell and this is what he gave naruto, the power to control the yin part of the kyuubi's chakra, the evil part of the chakra.

    It would seem fitting since itachi says how he hopes naruto will never have to use it. (with it being such an evil chakra)

    Anyways i just thought it wud be cool- that naruto can use the bijuu like a dog. thats the reason why kishi is just drawing that slow, he will just delay the BIG FIGHT. IT WILL BE JUST LIKE YEARS AGO, AS THE DEMON FOX ATTACKED KONOHA. THIS TIME- JUST THIS TIME NARUTO FIGHT WITH IT TO SAVE THE REST OF KONOHA, THE WILL OF FIRE & AND SO SASUKE AND NARUTO WILL FIGHT.
    ONCE THEY FOUGHT TOGETHER. THEY MEET AGAIN BY FATE
    -but i think sasuke won't die, he just will change his mind and start at the end of the story 2 rebuild konoha together with naruto- and so it ends/and starts as well again


    is THIS THEIR FINAL BATTLE


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    was much of work- and u make a joke 'bout it and wrote some sh* about naruto's penis.

    -.- ty
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xero View Post
    hahaha

    Naruto: This is the final duel, Sasuke.
    Sasuke: Tch.. dead last will never compare to me...
    Naruto: *whips it out*
    Sasuke: ......... T_T
    lol, what an epic end!!! This would be going back to the original naruto with his sexy jutsu...
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonmccash View Post
    I am sure that NOONE has Wrote this before, much less thought it, if you have let me know!

    Please be patient with my ordering and explanation



    1. Naruto receives "Itachi's power" ... starting in Manga Chapter 365, and ends in Chapter 403. MANY things happened in between this gap. Including Pein killing Jiraiya, and Sasuke killing Itachi.

    2. The most Relevant point to this thread, is when Jiraiya pulled the Keyscroll-Frog out from his stomach.




    3. In all honesty, imagine the idea of putting that thing down your throat. BECAUSE this is what Naruto saw happen!!! Remember that the Keyscroll-Frog was pulled out of Jiraiya, in front of Naruto and eventually put back in. Naruto was also told the significance of the scroll, and experienced what affect it had on him

    Now put it in context of the situation.

    Naruto is scared that the Fox will overpower him. Would he be receptible to storing the scroll inside him, with all that power ready to unleash the Fox and lose control??? HECK NO.... not to mention that even IF Naruto was mentally able to take ownership of the scroll, would he still knowingly sit still as the giant scroll was shoved inside his stomach??? HECK NO...


    Basically I am intending for you to picture how everything changes, if you imagine Itachi really being the Keyscroll-Frog... it makes sense, just read on

    4. This is why the scroll frog used Genjutsu on Naruto, and made himself look like Itachi. What we assumed was Sasuke's brother, looking out for his brother. WRONG. Itachi was sitting and waiting to fight Sasuke right at the same moment this event was taking place! HOWEVER, the Keyscroll-Frog was witness to Naruto, met Naruto (imagine the scene of a talking frog coming out of Jiraiya lol) The Keyscroll-Frog also knew Naruto's motivation for wanting to control the 9-Tails, to save Sasuke, who is an enemy to Konoha.... Look at these images!




    Both of these are CONSECUTIVE!!! Isn't it odd that Naruto even noticed that they both said the same thing!!!


    5. Here is the imfamous shot! Notice that Naruto's head was in the same cocked back position, and swallowing something big. Trust me, its the scroll. AND it was genjutsu. *** WE all just like Naruto, did not realize what was really going on....



    The transfer had to be immediate, preferrably not in the open where the secret could get out, and so that Naruto wouldn't immediately realize that something happened to Jiraiya, because he was forced to swallow that scroll!!!

    6. Also Notice in the last image at the bottom, that the FAKE Itachi said he had something important to do, and left. This was to go and report to Fukusaku and the Hokage...
    Note that the Former Keyscroll-Frog now is empty. It took the scroll out of itself, and put it into Naruto... the Frog didn't want to commit suicide by going inside Naruto, knowing that its body wouldn't survive.



    7. This is why Naruto was swifted away to the mountain ASAP, and Tsunade told him to go. She was probably told EVERYTHING, include the scroll being inside of Naruto.


    8. IMPORANT!!!!!! The Big scroll is just a common scroll... See the following images...

    MINATO = NO BIG SCROLL

    Minato Images from Kakashi Gaiden (Never wore a scroll)
    #1


    #2 Notice Minato, now not have a pack on.


    *Minato could have used the scroll as well as that same backpack, but chose not to... because there is not a connection for Minato and the frogs, and a big scroll...


    JIRAIYA = NEVER used his big scroll in the fight against Pain, infact, it appears like he just cast it aside as a nuisance...

    #1

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    THE END!!! Hope you enjoyed this revelation
    I wan't to come back on the scroll thing and what it could be...


    It's sure minato had no scroll, he sign a pact with the frog just like naruto did when he was younger, but it stop there. Jiraiya has the TOAD SAGE is the only one allowed to carry this scroll(non frog). Jiraiya was acknowledge by the toad, just like naruto did in Myobokuzan. Has far as we know, Minato never went or train to this mountain.

    My personal theory behind this scroll... I think there is definatly a greater power than just signing contract, maybe it's exactly what we're about to see in the next chapter. Summon something big like Pa toad said. I wouldn't be surprise that our friend Hyruzen Sarutobi (member here at NB) had already found what it's... A weapon... It's the only thing I can think of, let me explain:

    1: Legendary weapon; would suit naruto perfectly and would accentuate the ressamblance to Sasuke (face it when the big fight will occur between those 2 they'll both have a weapon in hand, and it won't be a kunai).

    2:Giant toad summon; Gamabunta was said to be the biggest toad still living, does it make him the strongest?? maybe the scroll can summon the toad that without being the biggest would be the strongest.

    3:Massive toad summon; Most unlikely, but I have to put it there. Naruto would summon an army of fighting toad, like Sasori use to do with his puppet. I don't think this will happen, whatever the number, weak is weak (remember Naruto fighting Kimimaro).

    4eath summoning; Of all this is the less credible, but a lot of you freak out when they read that Jiraiya and the 4th came back to life...we never know!

    5;... what do you guess?
     
         

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    This theory seems more feasible too when you consider how Naruto learns new jutsus/skills. If Itachi just "gave" Naruto some unknown powers there's no way in hell he'd figure out 1, what it was, and 2, how to use it (Especially since Itachi is dead!). Once it is made clear to Naruto that he has the scroll (either by Tsunade or even one of the toads) he will understand and know what it is, as well as how to use it. I can definitly see Kishi doing this, then Tarantino'ing back through flashbacks to explain it all.

    Once again Leon, great observation and theory. I'm sold on it. It means we may see more Kyuubi naruto and tails come out!
     
         

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    eyeryone who just likes naruto more than uchiha stuff is agreeing -.-

    isnt it so?
     
         

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    Why hasnt naruto gone mental and out of control when the frog stated to jiraiya when the key was turned before even a slight bit he went 4 tails and nearly killed jiraiya.

    But this time he has no symptoms and has full control?

    Its very OCD attention to detail, and thats what im loving, but it just seems weird LOL

    I dont think swallowing the entire scroll is nessecarily something to fear, jiraiya did it, and orochimaru put all kinds of things in himself.

    Can't be that bad.

    Its probably a special summoning so only the person can do it through theyre body, rather than the usual kuchiyose blood contract system.

    Otherwise any old person could summon the scroll frog.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoAndLiveForever View Post
    eyeryone who just likes naruto more than uchiha stuff is agreeing -.-

    isnt it so?
    That's not true, I'm a pure Uchiha fan and I find this theory completely credible, I wouldn't go has far has saying it's the true, but I wouldn't be surprise if Kishi would come up with something similar...
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eyes of Power View Post
    Okay... sorry dude I was a bit confuse lol... I got to say that I used to think very much like you, but with the proof he just brought in the post I got to say I'm not sure anymore...His theory fit, what can I say.

    Anyway, everyone believe what he want to believe, we'll be confirm soon enough with our good friend Kishi..

    santasmile
    Thanks for the support I did go through the brain-busting effort to see if it was even worth writing about... and the more and went back and forth, because of the time skipping, the more it fit into place...
     
         

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    i just know this the power itachi give him it's the power to block sasugay and madara shsringan from controlling the kyuubi inside of him.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eyes of Power View Post
    I wan't to come back on the scroll thing and what it could be...


    It's sure minato had no scroll, he sign a pact with the frog just like naruto did when he was younger, but it stop there. Jiraiya has the TOAD SAGE is the only one allowed to carry this scroll(non frog). Jiraiya was acknowledge by the toad, just like naruto did in Myobokuzan. Has far as we know, Minato never went or train to this mountain.

    My personal theory behind this scroll... I think there is definatly a greater power than just signing contract, maybe it's exactly what we're about to see in the next chapter. Summon something big like Pa toad said. I wouldn't be surprise that our friend Hyruzen Sarutobi (member here at NB) had already found what it's... A weapon... It's the only thing I can think of, let me explain:

    1: Legendary weapon; would suit naruto perfectly and would accentuate the ressamblance to Sasuke (face it when the big fight will occur between those 2 they'll both have a weapon in hand, and it won't be a kunai).

    2:Giant toad summon; Gamabunta was said to be the biggest toad still living, does it make him the strongest?? maybe the scroll can summon the toad that without being the biggest would be the strongest.

    3:Massive toad summon; Most unlikely, but I have to put it there. Naruto would summon an army of fighting toad, like Sasori use to do with his puppet. I don't think this will happen, whatever the number, weak is weak (remember Naruto fighting Kimimaro).

    4eath summoning; Of all this is the less credible, but a lot of you freak out when they read that Jiraiya and the 4th came back to life...we never know!

    5;... what do you guess?

    When Naruto is shown with Jiraiya and Minato... it is ONLY in the context, that Naruto is faced with the HUGE responsibility of putting his life on the line, just like the 4th and J-man. Naruto is most likely pumping himself up, to fight Pein with EVERYTHING he has... Naruto could most likely put MORE effort into destroying Pein, than in trying to bring Sasuke back... no joke!!!!

    Scrolls aren't needed for HUGE frog summons... look at Jiraiya's battle with Pein... he honestly NEVER uses his huge scroll... that is the basis we are saying the possibility of Naruto's scroll will be amazing... that notion is just untrue... unless Naruto was given a mystical nature scroll, that is 100% biodegradable... call it the Charmin jutsu... ROFL
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonmccash View Post
    When Naruto is shown with Jiraiya and Minato... it is ONLY in the context, that Naruto is faced with the HUGE responsibility of putting his life on the line, just like the 4th and J-man. Naruto is most likely pumping himself up, to fight Pein with EVERYTHING he has... Naruto could most likely put MORE effort into destroying Pein, than in trying to bring Sasuke back... no joke!!!!

    Scrolls aren't needed for HUGE frog summons... look at Jiraiya's battle with Pein... he honestly NEVER uses his huge scroll... that is the basis we are saying the possibility of Naruto's scroll will be amazing... that notion is just untrue... unless Naruto was given a mystical nature scroll, that is 100% biodegradable... call it the Charmin jutsu... ROFL
    lol
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonmccash View Post
    I am sure that NOONE has Wrote this before, much less thought it, if you have let me know!

    Please be patient with my ordering and explanation



    1. Naruto receives "Itachi's power" ... starting in Manga Chapter 365, and ends in Chapter 403. MANY things happened in between this gap. Including Pein killing Jiraiya, and Sasuke killing Itachi.

    2. The most Relevant point to this thread, is when Jiraiya pulled the Keyscroll-Frog out from his stomach.




    3. In all honesty, imagine the idea of putting that thing down your throat. BECAUSE this is what Naruto saw happen!!! Remember that the Keyscroll-Frog was pulled out of Jiraiya, in front of Naruto and eventually put back in. Naruto was also told the significance of the scroll, and experienced what affect it had on him

    Now put it in context of the situation.

    Naruto is scared that the Fox will overpower him. Would he be receptible to storing the scroll inside him, with all that power ready to unleash the Fox and lose control??? HECK NO.... not to mention that even IF Naruto was mentally able to take ownership of the scroll, would he still knowingly sit still as the giant scroll was shoved inside his stomach??? HECK NO...


    Basically I am intending for you to picture how everything changes, if you imagine Itachi really being the Keyscroll-Frog... it makes sense, just read on

    4. This is why the scroll frog used Genjutsu on Naruto, and made himself look like Itachi. What we assumed was Sasuke's brother, looking out for his brother. WRONG. Itachi was sitting and waiting to fight Sasuke right at the same moment this event was taking place! HOWEVER, the Keyscroll-Frog was witness to Naruto, met Naruto (imagine the scene of a talking frog coming out of Jiraiya lol) The Keyscroll-Frog also knew Naruto's motivation for wanting to control the 9-Tails, to save Sasuke, who is an enemy to Konoha.... Look at these images!




    Both of these are CONSECUTIVE!!! Isn't it odd that Naruto even noticed that they both said the same thing!!!


    5. Here is the imfamous shot! Notice that Naruto's head was in the same cocked back position, and swallowing something big. Trust me, its the scroll. AND it was genjutsu. *** WE all just like Naruto, did not realize what was really going on....



    The transfer had to be immediate, preferrably not in the open where the secret could get out, and so that Naruto wouldn't immediately realize that something happened to Jiraiya, because he was forced to swallow that scroll!!!

    6. Also Notice in the last image at the bottom, that the FAKE Itachi said he had something important to do, and left. This was to go and report to Fukusaku and the Hokage...
    Note that the Former Keyscroll-Frog now is empty. It took the scroll out of itself, and put it into Naruto... the Frog didn't want to commit suicide by going inside Naruto, knowing that its body wouldn't survive.



    7. This is why Naruto was swifted away to the mountain ASAP, and Tsunade told him to go. She was probably told EVERYTHING, include the scroll being inside of Naruto.


    8. IMPORANT!!!!!! The Big scroll is just a common scroll... See the following images...

    MINATO = NO BIG SCROLL

    Minato Images from Kakashi Gaiden (Never wore a scroll)
    #1


    #2 Notice Minato, now not have a pack on.


    *Minato could have used the scroll as well as that same backpack, but chose not to... because there is not a connection for Minato and the frogs, and a big scroll...


    JIRAIYA = NEVER used his big scroll in the fight against Pain, infact, it appears like he just cast it aside as a nuisance...

    #1

    #2




    THE END!!! Hope you enjoyed this revelation
    cool and all but that was a clone.
    you said that happened at the same time itachi was at the moment.
    but remember.
    he was asking about how naruto felt towards sasuke then he said he had to go.(clone died) and they show itachi and sasuke start to fight. (clone tells sasuke were real itachi is and dies)
    good theory ut that was just a clone.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Himura kenshin uchihia View Post
    cool and all but that was a clone.
    you said that happened at the same time itachi was at the moment.
    but remember.
    he was asking about how naruto felt towards sasuke then he said he had to go.(clone died) and they show itachi and sasuke start to fight. (clone tells sasuke were real itachi is and dies)
    good theory ut that was just a clone.
    Look at the Skill Ability wheel, I am sure that Itachi does not have more chakra than Kakashi... and the idea of Itachi using a clone over that long of a period of time is NOT plausible...
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonmccash View Post
    Look at the Skill Ability wheel, I am sure that Itachi does not have more chakra than Kakashi... and the idea of Itachi using a clone over that long of a period of time is NOT plausible...
    False, the Uchiha are known to possess incredible chakra
     
         

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    Yeah thats why kakashi gets so worn out when using sharingan, because his chakra levels are too low.

    Itachi used 3 mangekyou techniques in unison, which is more than kakashi could ever do, itachi has loads more chakra than kakashi

    Also leon, how come when the scroll frog turned the key a little he went mental to 4 tails, but now he has the entire scroll and key he is absolutely fine?

    It makes no sense to have the key to open up the rest of the kyubiis power and he has full control when only 6-12 months or so ago in his life he went beserk in an ATTEMPT to do it
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    Yeah thats why kakashi gets so worn out when using sharingan, because his chakra levels are too low.

    Itachi used 3 mangekyou techniques in unison, which is more than kakashi could ever do, itachi has loads more chakra than kakashi

    Also leon, how come when the scroll frog turned the key a little he went mental to 4 tails, but now he has the entire scroll and key he is absolutely fine?

    It makes no sense to have the key to open up the rest of the kyubiis power and he has full control when only 6-12 months or so ago in his life he went beserk in an ATTEMPT to do it
    kakashi gets worn out because his body is not efficient with sharingan usage unlike the Uchiha who spend their whole life mastering their genkai
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakdaddy View Post
    kakashi gets worn out because his body is not efficient with sharingan usage unlike the Uchiha who spend their whole life mastering their genkai
    Or, and more logically, because kakashi doesnt have the same chakra capacity as an uchiha.

    Think about it, if kakashis genetics and lack of that bloodline limited his sharingan, then he wouldnt be able to get better at it really, there would be a untrainable maximum, like he said, you cant train organs etc, and sharingan is a bloodline.

    If its capability of jutsu is based on the genetics of the body and host of the sharingan, then it means sharingans power is locked at a certain level depending on that persons individual body.

    If its capability can be honed, like zetsu states, and so does kakashi, then chances are its capability is through practice and chakra.

    Kakashi used basic sharingan against zabuza and was out for a week.

    Now he can use standard sharingan no problem.

    Personally its the chakra capacity.

    As kakashis chakra capacity increases, so does his sharingan ability and usage.

    Kakashi was quite a weak jounin really with VERY low chakra capacity, i mean his limit was 3 chidoris as a jounin, sasuke as a genin was 2, and probably near 3, and definitely at 3 by the end of the chuunin exams.


    Kakashi has certainly improved a lot
     
         

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    Almost everyone was weak in the beginning of the anime.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destined Child View Post
    Almost everyone was weak in the beginning of the anime.
    lol true... well a lot of people are still week, look at tsunade and sakura and Ino and ten ten.... and many others, not considering the Jounins we haven't seen, who I'm sure, really suk.
     
         

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