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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by likeagws View Post
    Naruto > Sasuke because the title of the anime is Naruto.

    /thread.
    Pull your head outta your ass.
    This is about Neji vs Sasuke because the titles of this thread says so.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy120290 View Post
    So if you re-read the manga before Sasuke fights Naruto all he is thinking about is the fight vs Gaara and how Naruto won.

    The Rasengan was just the straw the broke the camels back Sasuke was obsessed with being the strongest ninja in the village and Naruto basically forced him to go to orochimaru because he was becoming stronger than Sasuke all the time etc etc etc

    Sasuke left to become stronger because he believed Naruto>=Sasuke and he wanted it to be Sasuke>Naruto infact probably Sasuke>Kakashi he just wanted to be more powerful than everyone and Naruto etc were holding him back.
    Yes and when did he start thinking and believing that? After the chuunin exams arc. I'm strictly referring to the chuunin exam arc when i say Sasuke was more powerful than Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by 4th Hokage of the leaf View Post
    My point exactly. Without the kyuubi chakra he wouldn't of been able to summon bunta therefore he would've been dead hence the only reason him winning that fight is due to the kyuubis chakra and Bunta. If you really think he would've beat Gaara without these 2 things then you might need your head examined lol.
    Never said he would but you arguing it was the sole reason it wasn't he used the chakra to continue the fight and that was it. It wasnt the only reason for him winning the fight ffs thats like saying if he didn't dodge that kunai he woulda lost.

    Naruto has the kyuubi he uses it to win fights just like any other tool.

    If you are gonna argue about little things like the kyuubi being the only reason Naruto is stronger this argument is pointless as thats like doing Sasuke without 2T or 1CM vs Naruto with Kyuubi.

    Hmm who would win that
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by 4th Hokage of the leaf View Post
    Yes and when did he start thinking and believing that? After the chuunin exams arc. I'm strictly referring to the chuunin exam arc when i say Sasuke was more powerful than Naruto.
    No he started believing that right at the end of the Chuunin Exam arc when he saw Naruto defeat Gaara and summon Gamabunto he realised how weak he was.

    Argument pointless with you as you can't see reason I take all your points but the fact is Rock Lee beat Sasuke. Gaara beat Rock Lee. Sasuke pissed Gaara off. Sasuke got pwnd by Gaara while he was in CM1.

    Naruto defeated Gaara....pretty simple.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy120290 View Post
    No he started believing that right at the end of the Chuunin Exam arc when he saw Naruto defeat Gaara and summon Gamabunto he realised how weak he was.

    Argument pointless with you as you can't see reason I take all your points but the fact is Rock Lee beat Sasuke. Gaara beat Rock Lee. Sasuke pissed Gaara off. Sasuke got pwnd by Gaara while he was in CM1.

    Naruto defeated Gaara....pretty simple.
    So now you're going by character beating character? That's probably the worst logic a person can use to prove their point. Also Sasuke didn't start acknowledging Naruto as his equal or superior until after he was beat half to death by Itachi, which is after the chuunin arc. Itachi said our goal is Naruto not you, which is part of the reason why they fought on the rooftop in first place because Sasuke felt he was becoming inferior to Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by 4th Hokage of the leaf View Post
    So now you're going by character beating character? That's probably the worst logic a person can use to prove their point. Also Sasuke didn't start acknowledging Naruto as his equal or superior until after he was beat half to death by Itachi, which is after the chuunin arc. Itachi said our goal is Naruto not you, which is part of the reason why they fought on the rooftop in first place because Sasuke felt he was becoming inferior to Naruto.
    Sasuke has never acknowledged Naruto as an equal and certainly not a superior psychologically he can't. He just thought Naruto is really strong I need to get stronger.

    Nevermind you think Sasuke>Naruto in the Chuunin Arc whereas he isn't I could have just argued Naruto goes 2tails and kicks the crap outta him or maybe even 1T and spams clones like vs Kimimaro but no I tried to approach it from a non Kyuubi way.

    And even then my arguments have all been thought through with proof yet you have no arguments about who is stronger you haven't given any proof or examples you just argued MY points instead of giving your own. Just keep going on about Sasuke "thinking" stuff...good arguments there.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    /thread derailed.


    Neji still wins!
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    neji
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy120290 View Post
    Sasuke has never acknowledged Naruto as an equal and certainly not a superior psychologically he can't. He just thought Naruto is really strong I need to get stronger.

    Nevermind you think Sasuke>Naruto in the Chuunin Arc whereas he isn't I could have just argued Naruto goes 2tails and kicks the crap outta him or maybe even 1T and spams clones like vs Kimimaro but no I tried to approach it from a non Kyuubi way.

    And even then my arguments have all been thought through with proof yet you have no arguments about who is stronger you haven't given any proof or examples you just argued MY points instead of giving your own. Just keep going on about Sasuke "thinking" stuff...good arguments there.
    Lmao he couldn't even use his tailed beast modes at will back then. Heck he can't even do it now. Also please don't come at me about providing proof because you've provided nothing that proves Naruto was stronger than Sasuke in the chuunin exam arc other character A beating character B, which is the worst logic around.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    /thread derailed.


    Neji still wins!
    Yeah Neji is still winning. *sigh*

    Sasuke 2T can percieve movements quicker can battle at Mid Range not Long will use Chidori at some point during the fight which = his downfall and use up his chakra Neji will counter all jutsus with Rotation or by simply using byakugan to dodge them easily.

    Sasuke will eventually use CM1 and go in for a taijutsu fight having little chakra and lose...or CM1 replenishes his chakra and he uses jutsus or chidori again Neji dodges and uses rotation Sasuke uses up chakra so HAS to do taijutsu...loses.

    Remember though if Neji even hits him once its unlikely he could use Chidori and would HAVE to use CM1 like Naruto used Kyuubi and then Neji would wear him down.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by 4th Hokage of the leaf View Post
    Lmao he couldn't even use his tailed beast modes at will back then. Heck he can't even do it now. Also please don't come at me about providing proof because you've provided nothing that proves Naruto was stronger than Sasuke in the chuunin exam arc other character A beating character B, which is the worst logic around.
    child.

    So I have given no evidence? Not even the fight vs Gaara were Cm1 Sasuke gets his ass kicked and Naruto who hardly uses the kyuubi kicks his ass....

    Right.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy120290 View Post
    child.

    So I have given no evidence? Not even the fight vs Gaara were Cm1 Sasuke gets his ass kicked and Naruto who hardly uses the kyuubi kicks his ass....

    Right.
    Again more character A beating character B nonsense. Look i'm not going to keep arguing with you because it's obvious we have different views on this, so let's just agree to disagree.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by 4th Hokage of the leaf View Post
    Again more character A beating character B nonsense. Look i'm not going to keep arguing with you because it's obvious we have different views on this, so let's just agree to disagree.
    What other evidence can anyone provide??!?!?!?!?

    They never fought in the Chuunin Arc its just pretty obvious to ME that considering they both fought the same person.

    Sasuke 1st and didnt even weaken him

    Naruto 2nd injured him and made him fully transform.

    It is just LOGICAL that Naruto is > than Sasuke I am not a fanboy I don't give a fck about Sasuke or Naruto I just go by logic and you here have not presented any evidence and just keep saying MY arguments are flawed and your reason for not presenting evidence is "don't come at me about providing proof because you've provided nothing that proves Naruto was stronger than Sasuke" because I can't prove anything apparently.

    So your argument is because I can't PROVE anything you don't have to...and you what "win" the argument for NOT arguing....idiot.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy120290 View Post
    What other evidence can anyone provide??!?!?!?!?

    They never fought in the Chuunin Arc its just pretty obvious to ME that considering they both fought the same person.

    Sasuke 1st and didnt even weaken him

    Naruto 2nd injured him and made him fully transform.

    It is just LOGICAL that Naruto is > than Sasuke I am not a fanboy I don't give a fck about Sasuke or Naruto I just go by logic and you here have not presented any evidence and just keep saying MY arguments are flawed and your reason for not presenting evidence is "don't come at me about providing proof because you've provided nothing that proves Naruto was stronger than Sasuke" because I can't prove anything apparently.

    So your argument is because I can't PROVE anything you don't have to...and you what "win" the argument for NOT arguing....idiot.
    You haven't proved anything lmao. I'm sorry but Naruto isn't DBZ where if you beat a character when another one can't than it means the one that won is more powerful.

    Naruto fights are about matchups, which is why i said character A beating character B is terrible logic to prove a point which is what you're trying to do.

    I also find it pretty funny that you resort to name calling when you're mad like an immature kid. Now i'm done arguing with you because it's pretty clear we have different views.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by 4th Hokage of the leaf View Post
    You haven't proved anything lmao. I'm sorry but Naruto isn't DBZ where if you beat a character when another one can't than it means the one that won is more powerful.

    Naruto fights are about matchups, which is why i said character A beating character B is terrible logic to prove a point which is what you're trying to do.

    I also find it pretty funny that you resort to name calling when you're mad like an immature kid. Now i'm done arguing with you because it's pretty clear we have different views.
    I understand what your saying I would never usually judge the strength of a character by saying well A beat B so A must be able to beat C. Because all Naruto Characters have different KG and strengths.

    BUT this was the same enemy....the same fight they both started at full strength one won the other almost died. So yeah the A vs B vs C works here IMO.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy120290 View Post
    I understand what your saying I would never usually judge the strength of a character by saying well A beat B so A must be able to beat C. Because all Naruto Characters have different KG and strengths.

    BUT this was the same enemy....the same fight they both started at full strength one won the other almost died. So yeah the A vs B vs C works here IMO.
    Yea well you're not even taking into account that Sasuke was low on chakra while Naruto was fresh and that Naruto's chakra is way higher than Sasuke's.

    Sasuke used only one chidori and was completely out of it because he had already fought Gaara in the chuunin exam final and he had to deal with Temari.

    Just because Naruto was a better matchup for Gaara doesn't make him stronger than Sasuke. You have to take into account the little things as well.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by 4th Hokage of the leaf View Post
    Yea well you're not even taking into account that Sasuke was low on chakra while Naruto was fresh and that Naruto's chakra is way higher than Sasuke's.

    Sasuke used only one chidori and was completely out of it because he had already fought Gaara in the chuunin exam final and he had to deal with Temari.

    Just because Naruto was a better matchup for Gaara doesn't make him stronger than Sasuke. You have to take into account the little things as well.
    I have Naruto would have been low on chakra also with the Neji fight he doesnt recover chakra THAT fast.

    Sasuke used CM1 which would have replenished some chakra if not boosted his energy yet he couldn't make a dent.

    I take everything into account and it points to Naruto being stronger not Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy120290 View Post
    I have Naruto would have been low on chakra also with the Neji fight he doesnt recover chakra THAT fast.

    Sasuke used CM1 which would have replenished some chakra if not boosted his energy yet he couldn't make a dent.

    I take everything into account and it points to Naruto being stronger not Sasuke.
    Naruto had 2 matches one which was delayed to rest. He also had time to recover his chakra when he, shikamaru, and sakura were on there way to save Sasuke.

    I'm sorry but that's more than enough time to rest and recover his chakra. I'm sorry but none of this points to Naruto being stronger than Sasuke.

    Naruto wouldn't of even beaten Gaara had it not been for the kyuubis chakra, which Sasuke doesn't have.

    This is also exactly why i said that character A beating character B is terrible logic because it's obviously clear that Naruto was the better matchup for Gaara due to his huge chakra reserve.
     
         
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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    If naruto could beat neji anf then sasuke could beat neji

    Plus he has an early form of the CM
     
         

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    Re: Chunin Exam Neji VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Better View Post
    If naruto could beat neji anf then sasuke could beat neji

    Plus he has an early form of the CM
    No Naruto vs Neji is VERY different to Sasuke vs Neji.

    Naruto Close Range Fighter

    Sasuke Close & Mid range fighter + Sharingan.

    Neji beats Sasuke logically but Naruto just used Neji's arrogance against him.
     
         

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