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    SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    Description: Naruto starts off in SM while Jirayia does not. Neither party knows has any knowledge over the other
    Location: Mount Myōboku
    Intention: To kill
    Restriction: Naruto cannot go into any Kyuubi form. No genjustu used

    My thoughts: Naruto had more mastery and came up with more uses over SM than Jirayia, however Jirayia was more battle skilled than Naruto. I'm going with Naruto barely 6/10 times
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    None.

    How can they both have ma n pa ?
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    With Ma n Pa on J-man i would say he has the upperhnd
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    naruto surprass his teacher
    j man lose his battle with pain but naruto beat all six pains
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Gildarts R. Clive~ View Post
    None.

    How can they both have ma n pa ?
    Naruto doesn't need ma and pa to be in SM:confused:
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    Jiraya. His exp plus ma n pa would overtake Naruto
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    jiraiya since he's got more battle skill and intelligence.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    Quote Originally Posted by susan0 View Post
    naruto surprass his teacher
    j man lose his battle with pain but naruto beat all six pains
    he did beat them , but they werent trying to kill them
    uber pain his power wasnt active for half of the fight
    soul pain couldnt use his power cause naruto would die without soul, they needed him alive
    1 pain turned too stone
    naruto just had a lot of luck also and pain was restricted to use all his abilties
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    I just did some research, annnnnnd, it turns out jiraiya didnt master SM
    Jiraiya in an imperfect Sage Mode
    (from wikia)

    and naruto did master it
    Naruto in True Sage Mode- the pigmentation around his eyes being the mark of a true Sage.
    (same wikia)

    so naruto FTW

    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Mode
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    Quote Originally Posted by susan0 View Post
    naruto surprass his teacher
    j man lose his battle with pain but naruto beat all six pains
    Naruto beat pain cuz he had the intel, help and they just wanted to capture him.

    Naruto wouldn't last as long as J-Man with out any info about them.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    this isn´t about battle of Pain vs Naruto or Pain vs Jiraya, this is Naruto SM vs Jiraya, i go with Naruto since you said that no genjutsu
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    I'm sorry but letting Naruto start out in SM and Jiraiya not is ridiculous. Naruto doesn't need ma and pa while Jiraiya does and Naruto also has the mode perfected while Jiraiya does not. Jiraiya is at a huge disadvantage from the start.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    Quote Originally Posted by susan0 View Post
    naruto surprass his teacher
    j man lose his battle with pain but naruto beat all six pains
    You dont really think Naruto actually beat Pain fair and square right?

    Fight wasnt fighting to kill but to capture, actually Naruto lost the momment Pain pinned him to the ground and had him captured, he even said that Naruto wasnt dead because he avoided vital points.

    Then it was a Pain that had already fought Konoha plus using a jutsu that shorten his lifespan and consume a lot of chakra to nuke a village plus being unable to use Deva for the beginning of the fight where Naruto was capable of having the upper hand.

    When Pain fought Jiraiya it was at full power and the intention to kill. Dont act as if Naruto was stronger than Pain because he wasnt.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    Naruto will win 10/10 times if jiraiya doesn't start in hermit mode.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto vs Jirayia

    Quote Originally Posted by 4th Hokage of the leaf View Post
    I'm sorry but letting Naruto start out in SM and Jiraiya not is ridiculous. Naruto doesn't need ma and pa while Jiraiya does and Naruto also has the mode perfected while Jiraiya does not. Jiraiya is at a huge disadvantage from the start.
    Naruto only can last 5 minutes in SM anyways. So who really is at a disadvantage?
     
         

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