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    Toads vs. Pain Summons

    Who will win?
    How will the fight go down?
    Who will get to fight?

    What I think will happen, is that there will be kind of a high speed battle, and the summons and toads will be left in the dust by naruto and God pain, who eventually have some sort of power struggle, then Pain withdraws.

    What I hope happens: Naruto makes one clone to team up with each fighting Toad, and they battle in a similar style to when Naruto fought Gaara, and did the 2 person transformation, and all that other stuff. We have seen that toad with the staff and shield before, and he has proven himself against at least 1 pain body, so I think it will be an excellent match up, as long as Naruto can make sage clones that actually can fight instead of just being distractions/tricks.
     
         

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    well if pain beat jiriya then doesn't that answer it?
     
         

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    ^lol...i would agree if jiriya really failed at goin shot for shot wit peins summonin...
    or if i would have neva seen sakura punch tha lights out of one peins summonins...lol..

    but i dunno if naruto is goin to battle that way.... he might....
     
         

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    but jiriya is more powerful then all of the toads
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganMaster View Post
    but jiriya is more powerful then all of the toads
    What?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destined Child View Post
    What?
    wasn't he? well the toads that he could summon right?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganMaster View Post
    wasn't he? well the toads that he could summon right?
    The toads fight with Jiraiya, not against him.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destined Child View Post
    The toads fight with Jiraiya, not against him.
    i never said that they did
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganMaster View Post
    well if pain beat jiriya then doesn't that answer it?
    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganMaster View Post
    but jiriya is more powerful then all of the toads
    .....exactly whut point are you trying to make? If that's the case then Naruto is technically stronger than the toads he summoned.....which leads me back to my question: Whut point are you trying to make?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganMaster View Post
    i never said that they did
    Sorry, I misundersood what you said.

    Can you explain what you meant again?
     
         

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    Thank You "izzy" that comment that guy made doesnt make any sense. Jman and Naruto summon the toads to help out against other summons or strong individuals. You really cant say that Jman is stronger than the toads. Look at Pa Toad, that guy is super strong and taught Sage Arts to Naruto and Jman.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by izzy89 View Post
    .....exactly whut point are you trying to make? If that's the case then Naruto is technically stronger than the toads he summoned.....which leads me back to my question: Whut point are you trying to make?
    , dude, I don't know what he's saying either.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destined Child View Post
    Sorry, I misundersood what you said.

    Can you explain what you meant again?
    i meant that didn't he have to be more powerful then his toads? to summone something u have to be more powerful than that something right? Naruto for example was not stronger than the toads he needed the nine tailed fox who was more powerful than them... right?
     
         

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    The toads, and Naruto will pwn them!

    Gamakichi, and the other toads look like they mean bizness.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganMaster View Post
    i meant that didn't he have to be more powerful then his toads? to summone something u have to be more powerful than that something right? Naruto for example was not stronger than the toads he needed the nine tailed fox who was more powerful than them... right?
    You need to gather and release a large amount of chakra to summon certain toads, depending on what toad your trying to summon to have to use certain amount of chakra. Naruto didnt really know much when he first summoned Gamabunta, he just had large amounts of chakra. Just cuz u have large amount of chakra it doesnt make you strong, u have to learn how to use it.
     
         

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    Oh, I get what you're saying.

    You might have to be stronger than the toads for them to respect you, but not fight for you.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destined Child View Post
    Oh, I get what you're saying.

    You might have to be stronger than the toads for them to respect you, but not fight for you.
    but the toads did respect jiriya right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zurita210 View Post
    You need to gather and release a large amount of chakra to summon certain toads, depending on what toad your trying to summon to have to use certain amount of chakra. Naruto didnt really know much when he first summoned Gamabunta, he just had large amounts of chakra. Just cuz u have large amount of chakra it doesnt make you strong, u have to learn how to use it.
    um that's no where near what i was getting at i said that the NINE TAILED FOX was stronger than the toads... and that's why naruto could summon it... please don't try to argue with that point
     
         
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    Ppl
    as much as i remember
    there r ranks in summoning frogs
    one cannot summong all frogs immediatly
    when they grow stronger they can summon stronger frogs
    naruto is stronger than jiraiya (next generation surpasses the previous)
    so he can summon stronger frogs and more of em at same time probably to
     
         

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    Most of the toads did respect Jiraiya.

    I'm not sure about Gamabunta, though.
     
         

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    Jman summoned the toad with the black desing on his face when he fought Pein. Remember that the only reason the toads are there is cuz not only Naruto but Pa and Ma toad helped with the summoning. The Gamabunta kinda of respected Jman but not like he respected the 4th. The 4th was the only one who could control Gamabunta and was the only one allowed to stand on his head. Jman once said that not even him could fully control Gamabunta. Just cuz Naruto has the 9 tails that doesnt make him strong, u have to be able to use it correctly. Up to now Naruto hasnt been able to control the 9 tails. So there's no way really of saying that the Toads respect Naruto cuz he's strong because he holds the 9 tails. They might respect him now cuz he's come so far and learned the Sage Arts. So they might have the same respect for Naruto that they had for Jman but not as much respect as they had for the 4th Hokage.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeidaraKun View Post
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    as much as i remember
    there r ranks in summoning frogs
    one cannot summong all frogs immediatly
    when they grow stronger they can summon stronger frogs
    naruto is stronger than jiraiya (next generation surpasses the previous)
    so he can summon stronger frogs and more of em at same time probably to
    ITs not really about ranks, I believe. Check out Naruto he summoned Gamabunta right off the bat, and Gamabunta is one of the strongest Toads. All it takes is chakra and learning how summon them. Naruto was a Genin and he summoned one of the strongest Toads.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destined Child View Post
    Most of the toads did respect Jiraiya.

    I'm not sure about Gamabunta, though.
    Gamabunta respected Jiraiya, but didn't allow him to :

    1: be his absolute master like katsuyi (the slug summon)

    2:summon him whenever he wanted

    That's the difference.

    From what we know, only the 4th was fully obedient and respected by gamabunta, that tells you what naruto has become!
     
         

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    Well said, Zurita.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eyes of Power View Post
    Gamabunta respected Jiraiya, but didn't allow him to :

    1: be his absolute master like katsuyi (the slug summon)

    2:summon him whenever he wanted

    That's the difference.

    From what we know, only the 4th was fully obedient and respected by gamabunta, that tells you what naruto has become!
    how does that tell u what naruto HAS become? maybe WILL become
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eyes of Power View Post
    Gamabunta respected Jiraiya, but didn't allow him to :

    1: be his absolute master like katsuyi (the slug summon)

    2:summon him whenever he wanted

    That's the difference.

    From what we know, only the 4th was fully obedient and respected by gamabunta, that tells you what naruto has become!
    That's not what I would call respect...
     
         

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