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    Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Scenario 1: Pre-TS supernova vs 2 holes old and dyin WB
    Scenario 2: Post- TS supernova vs prime WB
    Scenario 3: Post TS supernova vs 2 holes dying WB
    Scenario 4: Prime WB vs Pre-timeskip supernova

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    1 and 3 Supernovas Win
    2 and 4 WB Wins.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Supernovas take the first three scenarios, but Whitebeard takes the last one.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    They lose all except for 3.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Scenario 1: Pre-TS supernova vs 2 holes old and dyin WB - WB wins (extreme diff - can go either way though)
    Scenario 2: Post- TS supernova vs prime WB - WB wins Low diff
    Scenario 3: Post TS supernova vs 2 holes dying WB - Supernova win Mid diff
    Scenario 4: Prime WB vs Pre-timeskip supernova - WB Slaughters them all.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Quote Originally Posted by sage1999 View Post
    Scenario 1: Pre-TS supernova vs 2 holes old and dyin WB
    Scenario 2: Post- TS supernova vs prime WB
    Scenario 3: Post TS supernova vs 2 holes dying WB
    Scenario 4: Prime WB vs Pre-timeskip supernova

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    Scen 1 could go either way. But WB could end it with a suicide move if the location is the headquarters and he pours all his power into a huge earthquake.

    Scen 2 I'm getting the impression that Luffy is at least 50% admiral level right now. So 11 of them would make like, 4 Admirals probably since some of them are a bit weaker... don't think Prime Whitebeard can take that many. Plus with Laws powers he'll have to be extremely cautious and since Kidd can just take his scythe thing from him it doesn't look too good. So Supernovas.

    Scen 3 Supernovas.

    Scen 4 Whitebeard.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Post TS Novas V Dying WB... Novas would win here definitely...

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    Pre TS Novas V Prime WB... Godstomping...
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Quote Originally Posted by Chillin Saitama View Post
    Scen 1 could go either way. But WB could end it with a suicide move if the location is the headquarters and he pours all his power into a huge earthquake.

    Scen 2 I'm getting the impression that Luffy is at least 50% admiral level right now. So 11 of them would make like, 4 Admirals probably since some of them are a bit weaker... don't think Prime Whitebeard can take that many. Plus with Laws powers he'll have to be extremely cautious and since Kidd can just take his scythe thing from him it doesn't look too good. So Supernovas.

    Scen 3 Supernovas.

    Scen 4 Whitebeard.
    4 of the Pre TS Supernovas got negged by Kizaru. Old WB, even with injuries, can neg them.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzumaki Macho View Post
    4 of the Pre TS Supernovas got negged by Kizaru. Old WB, even with injuries, can neg them.
    tht was pre timeskip when none of them could actually hurt him bcoz they had to haki then
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    The only one I can see WB losing is scenario 3 otherwise he wrecks in all other scenarios.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Quote Originally Posted by sage1999 View Post
    tht was pre timeskip when none of them could actually hurt him bcoz they had to haki then
    None of them even touched him besides Apoo, and even then Kizaru let Apoo hit him.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    1. WB stomps
    2. Supernovas high diff
    3. Supernovas low diff
    4. WB oneshots
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Quote Originally Posted by C r o c o d i l e View Post
    1. WB stomps
    2. Supernovas high diff
    3. Supernovas low diff
    4. WB oneshots
    I wont say he one shots. Law Gamma knife is great for weakening him enough and Appo/Kid can provide mid to long range attack. La can just shamble them around and Luffy + X Drake can maybe damagge him a little. However WB wins
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Quote Originally Posted by sage1999 View Post
    I wont say he one shots. Law Gamma knife is great for weakening him enough and Appo/Kid can provide mid to long range attack. La can just shamble them around and Luffy + X Drake can maybe damagge him a little. However WB wins
    He would oneshot though

    This is PRE TS Supernova! i.e no Gamma Knife. They had no Haki and no way to break Whitebeards guard. He could stand there until he turned 100 and not be hurt
     
         
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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    S1 - WB mid-high diff.
    S2 - PWB mid diff.
    S3 - Supernovas mid-high diff.
    S4 - PWB neg diff.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzumaki Macho View Post
    4 of the Pre TS Supernovas got negged by Kizaru. Old WB, even with injuries, can neg them.
    Keyword is pre.

    And how about we NOT use a>b>c logic here? Kizaru could do that just because he's fast. Whitebeard and Kizarus fighting style is way different.

    Plus he only fought 4, not 11.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Quote Originally Posted by Chillin Saitama View Post
    Keyword is pre.

    And how about we NOT use a>b>c logic here? Kizaru could do that just because he's fast. Whitebeard and Kizarus fighting style is way different.

    Plus he only fought 4, not 11.
    Are you suggesting that 11 would've made a difference?
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Look how the supernova's were being kicked around by pacifista on sabaody.

    Pacifista were only good against fodder in the war. That was a completely different level.

    Luffy was probably one of the higher tier supernova pre-skip, and he didn't really accomplish anything during the war. He was under constant protection of whitebeard and Ivankov and still got kicked around by everybody.

    So pre-skip supernova's don't stand a chance against WB in any form.

    Post can be tricky if they all had the exponential growth Luffy and Law showed with their fruits.

    I wonder if Whitebeard can fend of many tricky devil fruits, I still don't think strength is an issue. But how would he deal with people like Law, Bonney, Hawkins. Kidd and to some extent Luffy.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Quote Originally Posted by Love Cook View Post
    I wonder if Whitebeard can fend of many tricky devil fruits, I still don't think strength is an issue. But how would he deal with people like Law, Bonney, Hawkins. Kidd and to some extent Luffy.
    WB did not even know about Teach's Yami Yami no mi yet after two blows, he had teach pinned down to the ground and would have almost killed him if his body had not crossed its limits. Tricky devil fruits is one part, but I still don't think any of the supernova have a devil fruit that would cause major harm to WB, except perhaps Bonney. She is the only wild card that can lead to WB's defeat but a fruit like hers has restrictions we don't know.
     
         

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    Re: Supernovas vs Whitebeard

    Quote Originally Posted by C r o c o d i l e View Post
    Are you suggesting that 11 would've made a difference?
    Nah but right now I'm suggesting you just skipped over my first 2 points.
     
         

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