Tobi's identity

[NarutoKage2]

Tobi's got a whole lab with all kinds of sets of eyes... It would be easy for him to pick one. I also think the reason for him to hide one of his eyes was because, like Kakashi, that was drawing his chakra out. Whoever he is, that eye with the space-time nin is really his own eye and this proves he is really an Uchiha. Probably someone we know quite little about (Izuna or Kagami) or we have yet to see. Just like Zetsu said, Tobi is TOBI.
But the theory I support the most is that he's some kind of Madara clone, not part of his soul, but really an embodiment of his thoughts and mind put in a Zetsu clone.

But if he's using extra(borrowed) eyes then he could be Izuna, Obito or Shisui. There's not enough info on this in the manga to know for sure.

[HashiramavsMadara]

But if he's using extra(borrowed) eyes then he could be Izuna, Obito or Shisui. There's not enough info on this in the manga to know for sure.

TOBI IS NOT OBITO!!!!! THERES NO POSSIBLE WAY!!!! he was still young when " TOBI" attacked konoha the first time and his hair was much longer and itachi went to tobi to ask for help to kill the uchiha clan and then tobis hair was long.....like madara and izuna!!!!:flaw:

[NarutoKage2]

TOBI IS NOT OBITO!!!!! THERES NO POSSIBLE WAY!!!! he was still young when " TOBI" attacked konoha the first time and his hair was much longer and itachi went to tobi to ask for help to kill the uchiha clan and then tobis hair was long.....like madara and izuna!!!!:flaw:

Yeah thanks captain obvious i was just saying that Tobi having borrowed eyes does'nt prove who he is. Learn to read.

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

I thought you'd say Obito with your sig lol. But yeah, Izuna might be possible.

Most of the Obitards switched to Izuna theory.

Btw, 1st Uchiha is not the correct term for Elder son, since he wasn't Uchiha. Before Uchiha clan came to be, there were alot of other clans and families before them. Uchiha is the final product of Elder son's blood. The peek of evolution I guess. Same goes for Senju.

[NarutoKage2]

Most of the Obitards switched to Izuna theory.

Btw, 1st Uchiha is not the correct term for Elder son, since he wasn't Uchiha. Before Uchiha clan came to be, there were alot of other clans and families before them. Uchiha is the final product of Elder son's blood. The peek of evolution I guess. Same goes for Senju.

This was just a review thread i made 10 days ago, its not a theory /detailed analysis.

[darth mik3]

Its the ten tails chakra. haha just playing but hey you never know. Nice compilation though

[HashiramavsMadara]

Yeah thanks captain obvious i was just saying that Tobi having borrowed eyes does'nt prove who he is. Learn to read.

O.O i should learn to read thanks

[yeahhh]

I am hoping this is revealed within the next few chapters...

[Baka Sennin]

most likely, a zetsu clone with madara's chakra. madara made zetsu with hashirama's dna after surviving hashirama's battle,using creation of all things, and made a zetsu clone with instructions to plant his rinnegan in a potential uzumaki to revive him. upon nagato dying, meaning tobi couldn't revive madara as is (he probably doesn't have enough strength to do so), he decided to help sasuke awaken his rinnegan instead and started the war plans.

that's my best theory, i'd much rather it be izuna or the sharingan ancestor though

[YwtfoO]

I guess Kishi made a hint, when he showed us the dead body of Izuna in the past.

We all have seen his dead body in the coffin so everyone is assuming that he's dead.

But one thing which bothers me really much, and what I call a hint, is , that Kabuto was not reviving Izuna as an ET.

This here kinda seems really strange :

The person, who seemed to be Tobi, was resurrected by Kabuto - Madara Uchiha.

The person, who seemed to be dead, but was very easy detectable, because everyone was knowing where he was settled down, wasn't revived by Kabuto - Izuna Uchiha.

I'm 100% sure, that Kabuto was aware of how strong Izuna was and he knew, that Madara and Izuna were equal on par. I also believe, that he was looking for Izuna, instead he found Madara.

This, without the other facts, outclasses every specticism to me, that there is no way he could be Tobi.

Either Izuna is Tobi or something else happened after his death, so Kabuto could not find him.

But to me, it quiet sounds logical, that Izuna could be Tobi, especially, when Kabuto did not revive Izuna, because he couldn't find him.

[Animeisalive]

most likely, a zetsu clone with madara's chakra. madara made zetsu with hashirama's dna after surviving hashirama's battle,using creation of all things, and made a zetsu clone with instructions to plant his rinnegan in a potential uzumaki to revive him. upon nagato dying, meaning tobi couldn't revive madara as is (he probably doesn't have enough strength to do so), he decided to help sasuke awaken his rinnegan instead and started the war plans.

that's my best theory, i'd much rather it be izuna or the sharingan ancestor though

lol what if...it really is the ORIGINAL zetsu? xD and like...he copied madara to a certain extinct, throwing everyone off for no particular reason? xD

[Sentinel]

I'm going with other, a guy that has no name since he has no parents.
in short, a person that was created by madara but that is not a copy or clone of him, just a result of experimenting with the first hokage's dna.
zetsu being the first human experiment, using a loyal shinobi to test on and create the black/white zetsu, with the black one being a remenance of the original zetsu and the white being the result of the experiment.
madara using the same but perfected technique on himself to improve his body and come closer to that of the SO6P. with this alteration (now having also body) being able to awaken the rinnegan. and using a sort of inzanagi, alowing him to breathe life in this other perfected body that we now call tobi. (it can be rebuilt easely as we have seen) and tobi's body would have been created with madara's technique of combining his own and the firsts dna.
and then ploting with tobi for his return to the real world after his death and the moon eye plan, perhaps even giving tobi all the information about his history so that he can pose as madara.
tobi having uchiha and senju dna would alow him to use the sharingan (of wich he has a serious collection that seem to be easely implanted) and later the rinnegan, and having control over the kyubi, not to mention the zetsu like characteristics in his body. thus being completly capable of going through life caling himself Uchiha Madara and use the name to strike fear into people

[Uchiha Leader]

tobi is an experiment

[Phoenix Sage]

I'm going with other, a guy that has no name since he has no parents.
in short, a person that was created by madara but that is not a copy or clone of him, just a result of experimenting with the first hokage's dna.
zetsu being the first human experiment, using a loyal shinobi to test on and create the black/white zetsu, with the black one being a remenance of the original zetsu and the white being the result of the experiment.
madara using the same but perfected technique on himself to improve his body and come closer to that of the SO6P. with this alteration (now having also body) being able to awaken the rinnegan. and using a sort of inzanagi, alowing him to breathe life in this other perfected body that we now call tobi. (it can be rebuilt easely as we have seen) and tobi's body would have been created with madara's technique of combining his own and the firsts dna.
and then ploting with tobi for his return to the real world after his death and the moon eye plan, perhaps even giving tobi all the information about his history so that he can pose as madara.
tobi having uchiha and senju dna would alow him to use the sharingan (of wich he has a serious collection that seem to be easely implanted) and later the rinnegan, and having control over the kyubi, not to mention the zetsu like characteristics in his body. thus being completly capable of going through life caling himself Uchiha Madara and use the name to strike fear into people

I don't think that the Zetsu we see is a creation from another original Zetsu. He is the monster that most Akatsuki members were thought up to be. Zetsu's ability is creating clones of himself. He even states that his clone will guide him when splitting apart to lead Taka to the Five Kage Summit.

The black Zetsu creates white Zetsu clones. We most surely see a Zetsu-like arm come off of Tobi when it was infected with Torune's bugs. Which also feeds to the theory that Zetsu can clone and create body parts that are fuseable with another Shinobi. (possibly feeding the tobi=zetsu clone theory)

IMO Zetsu didn't come around until Tobi started interfereing with the original Akatsuki that was created by Yahiko, Nagato, and Konan.

Edo Madara also states that he awakened his Rinnegan shortly before his death. Logically he wouldn't have had enough time to experiment as you state.

[Cloak]

Its Obito.
Its Obito
Its Obito...
Its Obito....

Everyone who disagrees is a Loser

[Sentinel]

I don't think that the Zetsu we see is a creation from another original Zetsu. He is the monster that most Akatsuki members were thought up to be. Zetsu's ability is creating clones of himself. He even states that his clone will guide him when splitting apart to lead Taka to the Five Kage Summit.

The black Zetsu creates white Zetsu clones. We most surely see a Zetsu-like arm come off of Tobi when it was infected with Torune's bugs. Which also feeds to the theory that Zetsu can clone and create body parts that are fuseable with another Shinobi. (possibly feeding the tobi=zetsu clone theory)

IMO Zetsu didn't come around until Tobi started interfereing with the original Akatsuki that was created by Yahiko, Nagato, and Konan.

Edo Madara also states that he awakened his Rinnegan shortly before his death. Logically he wouldn't have had enough time to experiment as you state.

about zetsu, it's true that he is a monster, but also he is weak, he isn't that strong as the other akatsuki members, as stated by tobi himself, zetsu is not the batle type, he is the spy and sensor of the group.
I'm aware of the tobi=zetsu clone theory and it is the one I favour after my own, the problem I see with that is that I just feel like madara would not put his faith into a shinobi he ran into that is capable of copying people. I feel he was purpously created. his ability's are perfect for creating an army that can take on the world to distract them. and I suspect that madara was aware that he would need someone like that, it would just be realy fortunate for madara if such a shinobi was walking around and could be manipulated into doing years of work to get madara back and enslave the world.

if we can belive tobi's story he was a motivator for the creation of akatsuki at the hands of yahiko. nagato was at that point already more then capable of using his rinnegan, so at that point in time, the real madara must have already been dead and tobi must have been around. so even in the tobi=zetsu clone theory zetsu must already have been around that time.

and about madara not having much time to experiment after awaking the rinnegan, I suppose that's true, but if you read my post you will notice that madara already perfected the dna manipulation technique on himself befor awaking the rinnegan. possibly (but can't be sure) he already created the tobi body and only needed the rinnegan's ability's to bring it to life. my theory also explains the similarity's that zetsu and tobi have, the white zetsu like arm that tobi kickes off after being infected with the bugs. the quick "instalation" of new body parts, even the quick adaptation of his body to a new set of eye's. from what I read in the manga I think it all fits

[guardianmo]

i think he's the sage of the 6 paths ._.

[Zetsuen]

i think he's the sage of the 6 paths ._.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Somebodys gonna get hurt if that happens :mad:

SO6P is a God, and he already has two rinnegans, so he wouldn't need to steal nagatos

[quobac]

I believe it Danzo who playing Tobi. Some arguments
First he become the 6th Hokage in order to steal the information he need to do the moon Jutsu that require Sharigan. SO sending Pain to attack the village would be the best way. Then get kill so he can start the great war and capture the last 2 tail beast.
Second why wear a mask unless it so well known but in the ninja world there almost no one else who have the eyes.
Third why kill the uchida Clan so he can steal all the Sharigan for himself. I mean you did see all the Sharigan eyes he have right? He also wanted pain eyes and how he have it if he is Tobi. And yes he kill the clan because he is in charge of the ANBU special forces.
Forth, Why would Itachi join the group that causing all of this trouble? Well from his action he want to save his brother and the village. What better way then to watch out and make sure Danzo not do anything with Atatski to harm his brother or the village.
Fifth, think back to when Naruto was born the location was suppose to be a secret and only the ANBU was assign to protect Naruto mother when she give birth, but somehow Tobi know about it one way was he assign the people to protect her and then goes and steal the tail beast in order to cause so much damage...The question is why because he needed to get rid of the forth and his wife. They have perfect control over the tail beast if Tobi not steal it then he did not see how he ever have another chance.
Finally, Some people tell me I am crazy he dead so how can he be Tobi. Do not forget this is the ninja world where everyone is fooling everyone. What better way to accomplish so much then to be dead or make everything think you dead. If he make a clone or something then he can scarfice it or even better be close by so when Sasake strike him down he can uses his jutsu and change out Tobi ability to make his body part not there can survive Sasake attack and do all of this in the shadow. Also people often think someone who disable as not dangerous so he walk around with a cane but that so easy to uses as a trick.
My question is all of this to destroy the world or unite them all? Cause of him all of the Ninja clan are working together and realizing a world of peace. Also taking all of the tail beast would insure that no one can uses them to threaten other nation anymore.

[Karen Araragi]

Its me >_>

[YwtfoO]

I believe it Danzo who playing Tobi. Some arguments
First he become the 6th Hokage in order to steal the information he need to do the moon Jutsu that require Sharigan. SO sending Pain to attack the village would be the best way. Then get kill so he can start the great war and capture the last 2 tail beast.
Second why wear a mask unless it so well known but in the ninja world there almost no one else who have the eyes.
Third why kill the uchida Clan so he can steal all the Sharigan for himself. I mean you did see all the Sharigan eyes he have right? He also wanted pain eyes and how he have it if he is Tobi. And yes he kill the clan because he is in charge of the ANBU special forces.
Forth, Why would Itachi join the group that causing all of this trouble? Well from his action he want to save his brother and the village. What better way then to watch out and make sure Danzo not do anything with Atatski to harm his brother or the village.
Fifth, think back to when Naruto was born the location was suppose to be a secret and only the ANBU was assign to protect Naruto mother when she give birth, but somehow Tobi know about it one way was he assign the people to protect her and then goes and steal the tail beast in order to cause so much damage...The question is why because he needed to get rid of the forth and his wife. They have perfect control over the tail beast if Tobi not steal it then he did not see how he ever have another chance.
Finally, Some people tell me I am crazy he dead so how can he be Tobi. Do not forget this is the ninja world where everyone is fooling everyone. What better way to accomplish so much then to be dead or make everything think you dead. If he make a clone or something then he can scarfice it or even better be close by so when Sasake strike him down he can uses his jutsu and change out Tobi ability to make his body part not there can survive Sasake attack and do all of this in the shadow. Also people often think someone who disable as not dangerous so he walk around with a cane but that so easy to uses as a trick.
My question is all of this to destroy the world or unite them all? Cause of him all of the Ninja clan are working together and realizing a world of peace. Also taking all of the tail beast would insure that no one can uses them to threaten other nation anymore.

No offense, but it's one of the dumbest Theories I ever heard, IMO.

[-S-]

this poll is bad, all of them are uchiha - have u ever thought that he may be a senju?

[NarutoKage2]

this poll is bad, all of them are uchiha - have u ever thought that he may be a senju?

Have you thought about how silly that sounds? Or of looking at the last option?

[NarutoKage2]

Tsuchi (mod) why would you merge that thread into this one? Either merge them all into one, or merge his. Cuz this thread i made was just the options, i never said who Tobi is in it at all.

And its like bashing others opinions(his thread).

[Ira]

Tsuchi (mod) why would you merge that thread into this one? Either merge them all into one, or merge his. Cuz this thread i made was just the options, i never said who Tobi is in it at all.

And its like bashing others opinions(his thread).

Fixed.