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    Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment: "Sorry about bad grammer"



    Last week the senate passed a bill that states, "if you're considered a terrorist and (this is based off of speculation) you can be detained (no trial)". The bill will nullify the 4th Amendment of the Constitution. Only 7 senators voted against the bill. Each side of the debate only had one-half an hour to relay their opinions on the bill, each side had multiple speakers. Detaining Americans with out a trial is non-American. The counter argument stated that " if we don't pass this bill then we want bad people free to kill Americans" ?!?!? Also "we are facing an enemy that will do what ever possible to destroy our way of life".... Wouldn't this bill do that for them??

    Obama stated June 19, 2007 that " We are not a country that runs prisons that locks citizens away with out even telling them why they are there, or what they are charged with" and "We are not a nation that locks people up without charging them". Obama is going to veto the bill.

    If you do get detained under this bill, you will have one chance, once a year to prove you're innocent. This bill is to be in effect until "war on terror is over". Till war on terror is over!!! Really, war on terror will never be over.



    * REASONS YOU CAN BE DETAINED*

    Laws that characterize a person of possible terrorism!



    1: Someone who is missing fingers on their hands.

    2: Someone who has guns.

    3: Someone who has weatherproof ammo.

    4: Someone who has seven days worth of food in their home.

    5: A person who was a part of or substantially supported Al-Queda, the Taliban, or associated forces.



    This bill will make it possible to Detain our own President!



    If this bill get's passed all the way through... then the broad spectrum of possible arrest will make every person in America a possible threat.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Surprised? oh silly Americans, your country already broke the "Sacred Freedom of Speech". America's last real president was JFK, other presidents were all tools, prepare yourself for more in the coming years.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Who gives a sh*t......... Beat it !!
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by raxy View Post
    Who gives a sh*t......... Beat it !!
    You will when they lock your care free a$$ up
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    Surprised? oh silly Americans, your country already broke the "Sacred Freedom of Speech". America's last real president was JFK, other presidents were all tools, prepare yourself for more in the coming years.
    thank you, saved me of tellin exact same things
     
         
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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    1: Someone who is missing fingers on their hands.

    2: Someone who has guns.

    3: Someone who has weatherproof ammo.

    4: Someone who has seven days worth of food in their home.

    5: A person who was a part of or substantially supported Al-Queda, the Taliban, or associated forces.

    bold= WTF!
    RED= should be the bill

    i have over 7 days worth of food....
    I have family who got missing fingers
    Guns
    and weather proof ammo many of them are in the military
    this makes no sense
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    #4 is just stupid.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    what does missing a finger got to do with this
    it's terrorists they are looking for not assassin's O_o
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    I'm glad people can be so carefree about being locked away for a year, with one chance a year at proving innocence. You all act though here but wait till this gets passed, and it affects you.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderRider89 View Post
    I'm glad people can be so carefree about being locked away for a year, with one chance a year at proving innocence. You all act though here but wait till this gets passed, and it affects you.
    *doesn't live in the USA nor plans to go there*
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    seriously people what does missing a finger have to do with terrorism ?
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    I don't see the big deal laws like this will probably never be used against me or you they are put in place so that law enforcement can legally detain actual threats instead of being forced to let them back on the streets.
    I don't know everything about the bill passed nor do I care much but the reasons they gave for being a possible terrorist seem a bit far off. Having guns that's basically everybody in America having lots of food once again everybody in America and whats with the finger thing.
    I don't know if I'm wrong or not about this but who knows stranger things have happened and people get power hungry by abusing authority.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ama883 View Post
    seriously people what does missing a finger have to do with terrorism ?
    I don't know this is the most retarded bill yet!
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Not even reason #5 makes sense. How do you define support and what does this action include? For example, arguing about how the VIPR and TSA methods are an an extreme infringement on the rights of U.S. citizens could be classified as support in this case.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ama883 View Post
    seriously people what does missing a finger have to do with terrorism ?
    terrorists think its uncool to have all your fingers.

     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderRider89 View Post
    Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment: "Sorry about bad grammer"



    Last week the senate passed a bill that states, "if you're considered a terrorist and (this is based off of speculation) you can be detained (no trial)". The bill will nullify the 4th Amendment of the Constitution. Only 7 senators voted against the bill. Each side of the debate only had one-half an hour to relay their opinions on the bill, each side had multiple speakers. Detaining Americans with out a trial is non-American. The counter argument stated that " if we don't pass this bill then we want bad people free to kill Americans" ?!?!? Also "we are facing an enemy that will do what ever possible to destroy our way of life".... Wouldn't this bill do that for them??

    Obama stated June 19, 2007 that " We are not a country that runs prisons that locks citizens away with out even telling them why they are there, or what they are charged with" and "We are not a nation that locks people up without charging them". Obama is going to veto the bill.

    If you do get detained under this bill, you will have one chance, once a year to prove you're innocent. This bill is to be in effect until "war on terror is over". Till war on terror is over!!! Really, war on terror will never be over.



    * REASONS YOU CAN BE DETAINED*

    Laws that characterize a person of possible terrorism!



    1: Someone who is missing fingers on their hands.

    2: Someone who has guns.

    3: Someone who has weatherproof ammo.

    4: Someone who has seven days worth of food in their home.

    5: A person who was a part of or substantially supported Al-Queda, the Taliban, or associated forces.



    This bill will make it possible to Detain our own President!



    If this bill get's passed all the way through... then the broad spectrum of possible arrest will make every person in America a possible threat.
    Might as well just take me to jail now.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatsndshanks View Post
    *doesn't live in the USA nor plans to go there*
    Well if it doesn't concern you then GTFO..... Thanks bye bye!
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    Surprised? oh silly Americans, your country already broke the "Sacred Freedom of Speech". America's last real president was JFK, other presidents were all tools, prepare yourself for more in the coming years.
    You really can't put the blame squarely on our presidents, it's a bit more complicated than that. However +rep for the somewhat true statement
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ama883 View Post
    seriously people what does missing a finger have to do with terrorism ?
    In Islamic countries where Sharia Law is enforced (Sacred law of god), criminals fingers or hands will be cut off depending on the scale of their crime.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatsndshanks View Post
    #4 is just stupid.
    I know right??
    and that's the worlds super power for u :lmao:
     
         
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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    In Islamic countries where Sharia Law is enforced (Sacred law of god), criminals fingers or hands will be cut off depending on the scale of their crime.
    it's not fingers it's hands , if you steal your hand get's cut off
    and let's say if i come to the US because terrorists cut off my hand , logically i wouldn't like terrorists , and wouldn't be one

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    5: A person who was a part of or substantially supported Al-Queda, the Taliban, or associated forces.

    this is clear discrimination against muslims , since there is no other way to consider someone a supporter of al-queda , except for having a beard or wearing hejab
    and since when do laws get made for a specific group of people , is terrorism ok unless it from muslims , is the US only trying to stop you from making an act of terrorism if you you support al-queda
    this is pure high quality BS
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Lame
    U.S is starting to suck more and more each day u.u,the country's super power postion will be lost in the nearby future ...
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ama883 View Post
    it's not fingers it's hands , if you steal your hand get's cut off
    and let's say if i come to the US because terrorists cut off my hand , logically i wouldn't like terrorists , and wouldn't be one

    and for this one
    5: A person who was a part of or substantially supported Al-Queda, the Taliban, or associated forces.

    this is clear discrimination against muslims , since there is no other way to consider someone a supporter of al-queda , except for having a beard or wearing hejab
    and since when do laws get made for a specific group of people , is terrorism ok unless it from muslims , is the US only trying to stop you from making an act of terrorism if you you support al-queda
    this is pure high quality BS
    Nope, it is also fingers. Sunni muslims cut of the hand right away. Shia muslims cut of a finger as a warning, if repeated it might be another finger or a hand.

    How do you know it was "terrorists" that cut of that persons hand or finger? Those who have their fingers cut off are criminals.

    Also this is not discrimination againts muslims, the reasons listed are stupid and hillarious but not discrimination to muslims. Don't exagurate please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Igneel View Post
    Lame
    U.S is starting to suck more and more each day u.u,the country's super power postion will be lost in the nearby future ...
    USA is no longer a super power, when countries like Iran can put pressure on USA. USA's economy is extremely bad.

    Current super powers are Israel, Russia and China.
     
         
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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    Nope, it is also fingers. Sunni muslims cut of the hand right away. Shia muslims cut of a finger as a warning, if repeated it might be another finger or a hand.

    How do you know it was "terrorists" that cut of that persons hand? Those who have their fingers cut off are criminals.

    Also this is not discrimination againts muslims, the reasons listed are stupid and hillarious but not discrimination to muslims. Don't exagurate please.
    Hunters, mechanics, hoarders, people who live far off from towns and store food for survival and countless others are subject to this atrocity.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    Nope, it is also fingers. Sunni muslims cut of the hand right away. Shia muslims cut of a finger as a warning, if repeated it might be another finger or a hand.

    How do you know it was "terrorists" that cut of that persons hand or finger? Those who have their fingers cut off are criminals.

    Also this is not discrimination againts muslims, the reasons listed are stupid and hillarious but not discrimination to muslims. Don't exagurate please.



    USA is no longer a super power, when countries like Iran can put pressure on USA. USA's economy is extremely bad.

    Current super powers are Israel, Russia and China.
    tell me how does number five effect anyone but muslims
     
         

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