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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderRider89 View Post
    Hunters, mechanics, hoarders, people who live far off from towns and store food for survival and countless others are subject to this atrocity.
    What does that have to do to with my post that you qouted? :shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ama883 View Post
    what does missing a finger got to do with this
    it's terrorists they are looking for not assassin's O_o
    i was wandering the same thing :shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    What does that have to do to with my post that you qouted? :shrug:
    How do you know it was "terrorists" that cut of that persons hand? Those who have their fingers cut off are criminals.

    Mechanics lose fingers all of the time and other examples of things that could relate you to these retarded reasons, for being detained.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by marvinkid View Post
    i was wandering the same thing :shrug:
    Already answered that.

    I'll be back later to answer more questions.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    Nope, it is also fingers. Sunni muslims cut of the hand right away. Shia muslims cut of a finger as a warning, if repeated it might be another finger or a hand.

    How do you know it was "terrorists" that cut of that persons hand or finger? Those who have their fingers cut off are criminals.

    Also this is not discrimination againts muslims, the reasons listed are stupid and hillarious but not discrimination to muslims. Don't exagurate please.



    USA is no longer a super power, when countries like Iran can put pressure on USA. USA's economy is extremely bad.

    Current super powers are Israel, Russia and China.
    super powers ATM

    United States of America,*Federative Republic of Brazil,*People's Republic of China,**European Union,**Republic of India,**Russian Federation
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderRider89 View Post
    How do you know it was "terrorists" that cut of that persons hand? Those who have their fingers cut off are criminals.

    Mechanics lose fingers all of the time and other examples of things that could relate you to these retarded reasons, for being detained.
    I wasn't talking about everywhere, I was talking about people in Islamic countries where Sharia is law. There the things you mentioned are not the major cause of loss of fingers.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderRider89 View Post
    Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment: "Sorry about bad grammer"



    Last week the senate passed a bill that states, "if you're considered a terrorist and (this is based off of speculation) you can be detained (no trial)". The bill will nullify the 4th Amendment of the Constitution. Only 7 senators voted against the bill. Each side of the debate only had one-half an hour to relay their opinions on the bill, each side had multiple speakers. Detaining Americans with out a trial is non-American. The counter argument stated that " if we don't pass this bill then we want bad people free to kill Americans" ?!?!? Also "we are facing an enemy that will do what ever possible to destroy our way of life".... Wouldn't this bill do that for them??

    Obama stated June 19, 2007 that " We are not a country that runs prisons that locks citizens away with out even telling them why they are there, or what they are charged with" and "We are not a nation that locks people up without charging them". Obama is going to veto the bill.

    If you do get detained under this bill, you will have one chance, once a year to prove you're innocent. This bill is to be in effect until "war on terror is over". Till war on terror is over!!! Really, war on terror will never be over.



    * REASONS YOU CAN BE DETAINED*

    Laws that characterize a person of possible terrorism!



    1: Someone who is missing fingers on their hands.

    2: Someone who has guns.

    3: Someone who has weatherproof ammo.

    4: Someone who has seven days worth of food in their home.

    5: A person who was a part of or substantially supported Al-Queda, the Taliban, or associated forces.



    This bill will make it possible to Detain our own President!



    If this bill get's passed all the way through... then the broad spectrum of possible arrest will make every person in America a possible threat.
    you think this applies to anyone? lol

    1-5 do you think they'd arrest anyone?
    Not a any normal person

    Any muslim fitting that describtion is going to jail.. its a sad thing really

    if these things don't stop, worse case scenario nazi germany again

    One of the people i know, became muslim a year ago, and they charged him for helping out Al Qaeda, this guy just became muslim and he was the most peaceful person i have ever met.

    its a sad thing really, hopefully things get better before they get worse
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Igneel View Post
    super powers ATM

    United States of America,*Federative Republic of Brazil,*People's Republic of China,**European Union,**Republic of India,**Russian Federation
    I am sorry, neither United States of America, nor European Union are super powers. India and Brazil? nope.

    Super powers are countries with strong milletary, strong people support and strong economy. Israel, Russia and China have all those three.

    Quote Originally Posted by Better View Post
    you think this applies to anyone? lol

    1-5 do you think they'd arrest anyone?
    Not a any normal person

    Any muslim fitting that describtion is going to jail.. its a sad thing really

    if these things don't stop, worse case scenario nazi germany again

    One of the people i know, became muslim a year ago, and they charged him for helping out Al Qaeda, this guy just became muslim and he was the most peaceful person i have ever met.

    its a sad thing really, hopefully things get better before they get worse
    What dumb and baseless statement.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    I am sorry, neither United States of America, nor European Union are super powers. India and Brazil? nope.

    Super powers are countries with strong milletary, strong people support and strong economy. Israel, Russia and China have all those three.



    What dumb and baseless statement.
    he is 100% right the nazi's used to arrest jews just because they were jews and accuse them of helping the alliance forces
    now muslims are being arrested just for being muslims and are accused of helping terrorists
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ama883 View Post
    he is 100% right the nazi's used to arrest jews just because they were jews and accuse them of helping the alliance forces
    now muslims are being arrested just for being muslims and are accused of helping terrorists
    I am sorry I can't take such ridicules and exagurated statements serious. There are many muslims living and practising islam in the USA. Comparing it to Nazi Germany is ridicules.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    I am sorry, neither United States of America, nor European Union are super powers. India and Brazil? nope.

    Super powers are countries with strong milletary, strong people support and strong economy. Israel, Russia and China have all those three.
    Well actually Russia just had an election and their people are rioting about the rigged results, so by your definition they cannot be a superpower. The point is that they are a superpower, but they just have a blatantly corrupt governmnet. As for China, they may be on the way up, but they have a HUGE problem with overinflating their GDP, soon 2/3 of their population will be over the age of 65, and they currently live off of cheap labor. Those things will blow up in their faces eventually. As for Israel, they really cannot be considered a superpower due to their small population size.

    Quote Originally Posted by Igneel View Post
    super powers ATM

    United States of America,*Federative Republic of Brazil,*People's Republic of China,**European Union,**Republic of India,**Russian Federation
    This is correct, it's just every country has their own problems, some are more serious than others though.
     
         
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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    I am sorry I can't take such ridicules and exagurated statements serious. There are many muslims living and practising islam in the USA. Comparing it to Nazi Germany is ridicules.
    they were many jews living and practicing their religion in Germany
    except at some point they decided they didn't want them anymore
    and from the looks of it the US is starting to do the same thing
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Better View Post
    you think this applies to anyone? lol

    1-5 do you think they'd arrest anyone?
    Not a any normal person

    Any muslim fitting that describtion is going to jail.. its a sad thing really

    if these things don't stop, worse case scenario nazi germany again

    One of the people i know, became muslim a year ago, and they charged him for helping out Al Qaeda, this guy just became muslim and he was the most peaceful person i have ever met.

    its a sad thing really, hopefully things get better before they get worse
    It takes your rights away..... so now does that apply to you?
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ama883 View Post
    they were many jews living and practicing their religion in Germany
    except at some point they decided they didn't want them anymore
    and from the looks of it the US is starting to do the same thing
    Untill that day comes, you can't say that USA is comparable to Nazi Germany. Also, do you think Christians, Homosexuals, Atheists etc can live their lifes as they please in Islamic countries? Not a chance. If a minority of muslim does not like the rules of America, they can always migrate to an Islamic country.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    I wasn't talking about everywhere, I was talking about people in Islamic countries where Sharia is law. There the things you mentioned are not the major cause of loss of fingers.
    I added other things like hunting for guns, etc... not finger loss and a majority of life long mechanics that i have came across have finger loss. Which by the new bill, could be detained. I'm not saying that they will, but have the possibility.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

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    I am sorry, neither United States of America, nor European Union are super powers. India and Brazil? nope.

    Super powers are countries with strong milletary, strong people support and strong economy. Israel, Russia and China have all those three.



    What dumb and baseless statement.
    really? tell me why we americans were in a war with iraq?
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderRider89 View Post
    It takes your rights away..... so now does that apply to you?
    lol nobody is going to arrest a clean shaven dude from a street and charge him as a terrorist

    But they will a man with a full grown beard and where a thobe and a kufi
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    I am sorry I can't take such ridicules and exagurated statements serious. There are many muslims living and practising islam in the USA. Comparing it to Nazi Germany is ridicules.
    i didn't say right now its nazi germany, i said if it doesn't stop it'll end up that way
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

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    really? tell me why we americans were in a war with iraq?
    United States of America declared war on Iraq and Saddam Hussein for two reasons.

    1. Weapons of Mass Destruction.
    2. Links to Al-Qaida
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

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    lol nobody is going to arrest a clean shaven dude from a street and charge him as a terrorist

    But they will a man with a full grown beard and where a thobe and a kufi
    It gives the government the right to throw you in jail, if you are missing fingers...... enough said.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Better View Post
    i didn't say right now its nazi germany, i said if it doesn't stop it'll end up that way
    That is a bold and exagurated statement which has no logic behind it. If what continues? what would happen? what new rules would be enforced? based on what? how do you predict that?

    This isn't anime or manga, this is a real life situation, you can't make "predictions" without any logical and valid reasoning behind it and expect people to take it serious.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Yeah I saw the whole bill thing being blown up on fb. The thing that irritates me the most is they spend so much tax money making up stupid bills. -.- Such a waste, well that's America for you.
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    United States of America declared war on Iraq and Saddam Hussein for two reasons.

    1. Weapons of Mass Destruction.
    2. Links to Al-Qaida
    and where was Al Qaeda? Pakistan

    Weapons? nope no weapons

    yet Isreal has weapons of mass destruction and they are opressing the people living there?

    where is the U.S?

    don't give me BS reasons

    How about the Iraqi "soliders"? honestly i have yet to see one

    American Soliders are over there pointing there guns at people wearing tank tops and slippers
    and they call them insurgents lol
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiX View Post
    That is a bold and exagurated statement which has no logic behind it. If what continues? what would happen? what new rules would be enforced? based on what? how do you predict that?

    This isn't anime or manga, this is a real life situation, you can't make "predictions" without any logical and valid reasoning behind it and expect people to take it serious.
    i honestly could care less if you take it seriously or not

    But the fact stands that America is bombing Muslim countries, lybia for example and they threatened to do the same to syria and for what reason?

    They are doing outside of the US, its just a matter of time before it starts here

    I love my country and i love the constitution but we are seriously playing with it right now
     
         

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    Re: Our county is going to violate the 4th Amendment!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Better View Post
    and where was Al Qaeda? Pakistan

    Weapons? nope no weapons

    yet Isreal has weapons of mass destruction and they are opressing the people living there?

    where is the U.S?

    don't give me BS reasons

    How about the Iraqi "soliders"? honestly i have yet to see one

    American Soliders are over there pointing there guns at people wearing tank tops and slippers
    and they call them insurgents lol
    lame
     
         
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