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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boa Hancock View Post
    Luffy has mastered the BASICS. Marco hasn't gone all out yet, and hasn't shown what he can do. Marco has been on WB ship since Luffy was in diapers, he's been a top tier fighter for at least 17 years now.

    But of course, my Haki is stronger than your Haki, and it makes people fly now dunnit.
    Which is why Marco has peaked

    he ain't getting that much stronger anymore.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boa Hancock View Post
    Luffy has mastered the BASICS. Marco hasn't gone all out yet, and hasn't shown what he can do. Marco has been on WB ship since Luffy was in diapers, he's been a top tier fighter for at least 17 years now.

    But of course, my Haki is stronger than your Haki, and it makes people fly now dunnit.
    Now, we cant always assume the fate of a fight on just how many years he/she is there, Gekko Moriah is triple the age of Luffy but yet was defeated, Sir Croc had the same result anyways i dont say Marco is weak but Luffy would be a tough competition for him.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Theleader View Post
    Which is why Marco has peaked

    he ain't getting that much stronger anymore.
    Doesn't matter, his overall level is just much stronger than Luffy's right now. You also can't deny he hasn't gone that all out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thugg View Post
    Now, we cant always assume the fate of a fight on just how many years he/she is there, Gekko Moriah is triple the age of Luffy but yet was defeated, Sir Croc had the same result anyways i dont say Marco is weak but Luffy would be a tough competition for him.
    Moria is approaching 60 years old, not exactly fighting age. It also took Luffy 3 tries to beat him just like Crocodile. Crocodile was beaten by PIS. If he had only done Barchan and Desert Spada like the first 2 fights there wouldn't be Alabasta right now.

    Luffy is tough for Marco, but not to the extent that Luffy would beat him or that Marco will come out of the fight near death.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boa Hancock View Post
    Doesn't matter, his overall level is just much stronger than Luffy's right now. You also can't deny he hasn't gone that all out yet.



    Moria is approaching 60 years old, not exactly fighting age. It also took Luffy 3 tries to beat him just like Crocodile. Crocodile was beaten by PIS. If he had only done Barchan and Desert Spada like the first 2 fights there wouldn't be Alabasta right now.

    Luffy is tough for Marco, but not to the extent that Luffy would beat him or that Marco will come out of the fight near death.
    Moriah was 48 when he was beaten by luffy and its quite the age you can combat. You are trying to point out Luffy's weakness though the truth is even after Croc beating him 2 times he still was able to defeat him the 3rd time, isn't that so? At the end of day no one says Croc won, it just the opposite.

    Yes Luffy is strong not like an Admiral but enough for Marco to get defeated and not if defeated then Marco won't achieve a easy win himself.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Talk No Jutsu View Post
    Admiral? No way.

    Vice Admiral? Depends on who he's fighting.
    You fo real, bro? Vice-Admirals are weaklings. Anyone from M3 could beat them. Dark King was equall or stronger than Kizaru, and Luffy now is probably stronger than Dark King so.. Luffy could beat Admirals if he went all out.

    Imo, Luffy is now between Yonko and Admiral level. If he wasn't than there wouldn't be any point for him to go into the New World. That's one of the reasons he trained for 2 years. I am sure he is well prepared to beat Akainu's ass.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boa Hancock View Post
    Doesn't matter, his overall level is just much stronger than Luffy's right now. You also can't deny he hasn't gone that all out yet.


    True Marco is stronger then Luffy at this point and he hasn't gone all the way


    but am just saying the man ain't gonna get much stronger, he has peaked around low - mid admiral level.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by EternalMangekyouRinnegan View Post
    You fo real, bro? Vice-Admirals are weaklings. Anyone from M3 could beat them. Dark King was equall or stronger than Kizaru, and Luffy now is probably stronger than Dark King so.. Luffy could beat Admirals if he went all out.

    Imo, Luffy is now between Yonko and Admiral level. If he wasn't than there wouldn't be any point for him to go into the New World. That's one of the reasons he trained for 2 years. I am sure he is well prepared to beat Akainu's ass.
    Well, Luffy isn't yet on the level of the people like Akainu or Rayleigh, if he were it would be too soon dont you think?
    Luffy still has completed only half of his journey, he cannot suddenly defeat a Yonko i think though he may put up a good fight but defeating would too much expected from luffy.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thugg View Post
    Moriah was 48 when he was beaten by luffy and its quite the age you can combat. You are trying to point out Luffy's weakness though the truth is even after Croc beating him 2 times he still was able to defeat him the 3rd time, isn't that so? At the end of day no one says Croc won, it just the opposite.

    Yes Luffy is strong not like an Admiral but enough for Marco to get defeated and not if defeated then Marco won't achieve a easy win himself.
    I don't see people in combat sports at the age of 48, save for maybe Bernard Hopkins and Dewey Bozella, and throw Brock Lesnar into the mix. Granted this is fiction, but still. Your physical abilities are deteriorating, and to add to that, Moria was defeated by the Strawhats, not just Luffy himself. If Moria just stuck to his gameplan of letting his Doppleman fight for him Luffy wouldn't be here now.

    Sure Croc lost, but still, PIS. At the end of the day it wasn't Luffy that won, it was PIS.

    And we have a poster above me that's saying Luffy is Yonkou level. Like hell dude. You're also assuming that Vice Admirals are weak. Hello, they're VAs for a reason. It means some of them are next in line for the Admiral title.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by EternalMangekyouRinnegan View Post
    You fo real, bro? Vice-Admirals are weaklings. Anyone from M3 could beat them. Dark King was equall or stronger than Kizaru, and Luffy now is probably stronger than Dark King so.. Luffy could beat Admirals if he went all out.

    Imo, Luffy is now between Yonko and Admiral level. If he wasn't than there wouldn't be any point for him to go into the New World. That's one of the reasons he trained for 2 years. I am sure he is well prepared to beat Akainu's ass.
    You're overrating him ...

    Yes, Sure, He improved a lot, but He still has a lot of way to go,

    Luffy now is probably stronger than Dark King so.. Luffy could beat Admirals if he went all out.
    What? ... This isn't the case of A>B so B must be > C, I even doubt that He's stronger than Rayleigh, Yes sure, he's able to face an Admiral, but beating him is out of the question, Oda isn't just going to throw Luffy into New world, and suddenly he's strongest guy there.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boa Hancock View Post
    I don't see people in combat sports at the age of 48, save for maybe Bernard Hopkins and Dewey Bozella, and throw Brock Lesnar into the mix. Granted this is fiction, but still. Your physical abilities are deteriorating, and to add to that, Moria was defeated by the Strawhats, not just Luffy himself. If Moria just stuck to his gameplan of letting his Doppleman fight for him Luffy wouldn't be here now.

    Sure Croc lost, but still, PIS. At the end of the day it wasn't Luffy that won, it was PIS.

    And we have a poster above me that's saying Luffy is Yonkou level. Like hell dude. You're also assuming that Vice Admirals are weak. Hello, they're VAs for a reason. It means some of them are next in line for the Admiral title.
    Moriah would be at the same age of Hawk Eyes and other Admirals and they all look sporty.
    Cmon, accept it give the credits to Luffy, even though Whitebeard was killed by the combined efforts of all the Marines people still say Akainu killed him.
    There aren't any if's and but's if you are defeated.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thugg View Post
    Moriah would be at the same age of Hawk Eyes and other Admirals and they all look sporty.
    Cmon, accept it give the credits to Luffy, even though Whitebeard was killed by the combined efforts of all the Marines people still say Akainu killed him.
    There aren't any if's and but's if you are defeated.
    Of course I give Luffy credit, it's not just the way people picture it when they say Luffy beat Croc or Moria when it wasn't a real one on one match on both counts.

    That's why I love OP, the old men can still play the game, instead of other series where the characters are all bishounen-looking.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boa Hancock View Post
    Of course I give Luffy credit, it's not just the way people picture it when they say Luffy beat Croc or Moria when it wasn't a real one on one match on both counts.

    That's why I love OP, the old men can still play the game, instead of other series where the characters are all bishounen-looking.
    Sure they can, infact the strongest man was himself 70+ in age :D
    But the conclusion remains the same Luffy still needs more time and training to surprass an Admiral or Yonko or Garp/Rayliegh.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Talk No Jutsu View Post
    You're overrating him ...

    Yes, Sure, He improved a lot, but He still has a lot of way to go,



    What? ... This isn't the case of A>B so B must be > C, I even doubt that He's stronger than Rayleigh, Yes sure, he's able to face an Admiral, but beating him is out of the question, Oda isn't just going to throw Luffy into New world, and suddenly he's strongest guy there.
    Tell me what was Luffy doing for these past 2 years? Who did he prepare to fight? To who did he lost miserably? Those were admirals. He wouldn't go to the New World knowing that he can't beat them. Rayleigh confirmed his strenght at Sabaody Archipelago.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by EternalMangekyouRinnegan View Post
    Tell me what was Luffy doing for these 2 years? Who did he prepare to fight? To who did he lost miserably? Those were admirals. He wouldn't go to the New World knowing that he can't beat them. Rayleigh confirmed his strenght at Sabaody Archipelago.
    Oh, Yea, while Luffy was training, while the Admirals were sitting on their fat arses, doing nothing?
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thugg View Post
    Sure they can, infact the strongest man was himself 70+ in age :D
    But the conclusion remains the same Luffy still needs more time and training to surprass an Admiral or Yonko or Garp/Rayliegh.
    I would like to see a WB gaiden honestly.

    Quote Originally Posted by EternalMangekyouRinnegan View Post
    Tell me what was Luffy doing for these past 2 years? Who did he prepare to fight? To who did he lost miserably? Those were admirals. He wouldn't go to the New World knowing that he can't beat them. Rayleigh confirmed his strenght at Sabaody Archipelago.
    You must view Admirals the same as real life politicans lol.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Talk No Jutsu View Post
    Oh, Yea, while Luffy was training, while the Admirals were sitting on their fat arses, doing nothing?
    They know Haki, they have their Logia powers. What else could they achieve?

    Why does eveyone think that EVERYONE in OP world is going to be stronger just because supposedly dead Straw Hats trained for these 2 years? You are saying whole world was training to fight dead Straw Hats? What has changed after Marinford Battle? Everyone knew that WB is the strongest man in the world. Everyone knew that Admirals and Shichibukai is the strongest force of World Goverment. Nothing changed after Marinford battle. Why do you think that those forces are going to become stronger in exactly these two years?

    Only super novas and BB pirates might get stronger.

    Straw Hats trained because they were weak. Admirals and Yonko's are already at the peak of their powers. They are not going to become stronger when they are already ridiculously strong. Icluding Shicibukai, those three are the strongest forces in the world.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by EternalMangekyouRinnegan View Post
    They know Haki, they have their Logia powers. What else could they achieve?

    Why does eveyone think that EVERYONE in OP world is going to be stronger just because supposedly dead Straw Hats trained for these 2 years? You are saying whole world was training to fight dead Straw Hats? What has changed after Marinford Battle? Everyone knew that WB is the strongest man in the world. Everyone knew that Admirals and Shichibukai is the strongest force of World Goverment. Nothing changed after Marinford battle. Why do you think that those forces are going to become stronger in exactly these two years?

    Only super novas and BB pirates might get stronger.


    Straw Hats trained because they were weak. Admirals and Yonko's are already at the peak of their powers. They are not going to become stronger when they are already ridiculously strong. Icluding Shicibukai, those three are the strongest forces in the world.
    Really? ...

    Saying that they won't get any stronger is like saying someone won't get any older because they're already old ...

    baseless statement, Akainu also mentioned the term "expierance" against his fight with Ace, and also Crocodile during his fight with Luffy said that it doesn't matter how strong someone is, all it matters is how you use your devil fruit, You can't stop expieramenting with it, such as Luffy getting new attacks every arc, just because you have a devil fruit doesn't automatically mean you're strong, e.g. Teach with Guru Guru No Mi, a devil fruit that is said to be capable of destroying the world, when Teach got it, didn't automatically made him strong, he has to get control over it.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Talk No Jutsu View Post
    Really? ...

    Saying that they won't get any stronger is like saying someone won't get any older because they're already old ...

    baseless statement, Akainu also mentioned the term "expierance" against his fight with Ace, and also Crocodile during his fight with Luffy said that it doesn't matter how strong someone is, all it matters is how you use your devil fruit, You can't stop expieramenting with it, such as Luffy getting new attacks every arc, just because you have a devil fruit doesn't automatically mean you're strong, e.g. Teach with Guru Guru No Mi, a devil fruit that is said to be capable of destroying the world, when Teach got it, didn't automatically made him strong, he has to get control over it.
    Are you comparing Teach with the Admirals? O_o

    How much stronger you expect Admirals to be after those 2 years and more importantly why would they get stronger (story wise)?
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by EternalMangekyouRinnegan View Post
    Are you comparing Teach with the Admirals? O_o

    How much stronger you expect Admirals to be after those 2 years and more importantly why would they get stronger (story wise)?
    They'll get stronger storywise because otherwise, it'll be a walk in the park for Strawhats.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Talk No Jutsu View Post
    They'll get stronger storywise because otherwise, it'll be a walk in the park for Strawhats.
    Don´t overate the strawhats, they´re still no match for the admirals, they don´t need to improve and the strawhats trained cuz they were weak and knew that they were going to die if they didn´t get stronger, the only people that will get stronger are the supernovas and BB pirates cuz those are the ones that need to get stronger.

    The others are already as strong as they can be, they don´t need to get any stronger, they´re not like luffy and the others, they are currently at their peak, it´s only going to go downhill now as they get older.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Talk No Jutsu View Post
    They'll get stronger storywise because otherwise, it'll be a walk in the park for Strawhats.
    It won't be a walk in the park. Even Haki has little effect on Admirals. So Luffy would have to go all out to defeat admirals. Like in the Luffy vs Rob Lucci fight.
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by EternalMangekyouRinnegan View Post
    It won't be a walk in the park. Even Haki has little effect on Admirals. So Luffy would have to go all out to defeat admirals. Like in the Luffy vs Rob Lucci fight.
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWorldOfTsukuyomi View Post
    Don´t overate the strawhats, they´re still no match for the admirals, they don´t need to improve and the strawhats trained cuz they were weak and knew that they were going to die if they didn´t get stronger, the only people that will get stronger are the supernovas and BB pirates cuz those are the ones that need to get stronger.

    The others are already as strong as they can be, they don´t need to get any stronger, they´re not like luffy and the others, they are currently at their peak, it´s only going to go downhill now as they get older.
    YOu two just proved my point
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    man some guys are overrating luffy way too much and some are underrating him some guys really think he can´t beat vista but luffy is equal or stonger than jimbei who made a draw with ace who was the 2nd commander which would make luffy stronger than vista and some think he can beat admirals and is stronger than rayleigh but he only has haki basics
     
         

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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey d garp View Post
    man some guys are overrating luffy way too much and some are underrating him some guys really think he can´t beat vista but luffy is equal or stonger than jimbei who made a draw with ace who was the 2nd commander which would make luffy stronger than vista and some think he can beat admirals and is stronger than rayleigh but he only has haki basics
    Vista was equaling mihawk in a fight who is equal to shanks who is equal to the yonkous and admirals, do you really think luffy can beat vista?
    He can´t beat Vista,Jozu or Marco, he´s out of his league against those three, you fall into the category of those who overate luffy, thinking he can beat vista.
     
         
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    Re: Luffy could take down an Admiral now?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyWorldOfTsukuyomi View Post
    Vista was equaling mihawk in a fight who is equal to shanks who is equal to the yonkous and admirals, do you really think luffy can beat vista?
    He can´t beat Vista,Jozu or Marco, he´s out of his league against those three, you fall into the category of those who overate luffy, thinking he can beat vista.
    All Yonkou's arn't the same level -_-'

    All you're doing now is making random assumptions.
     
         

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