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    Shisui and Itachi

    Did Shisui use his ultimate Kotoamatsu-kami on Itachi to help him commit the atrocities he did in the extermination of the Uchiha clan?! Recently while re reading the Ninja War ark I realised that Itachi stated in so many words that at the time of Sasukes youth he could not use the Crow or if you like Shisui's eye because of the cooldown of a decade. So question i pose is who do you think it was last used on? Why suddenly did Shisui a powerful Ninja by all intents and purposes choose to fade away....

    If Shisui wanted peace and to protect the village did he use his power to help accomplish this before he passed away.

    Decade
     
         
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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Wasnt used on itachi.
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    shisui was already dead by this time
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    I thought it was something like he used ka to protect the village. Or something close to that
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by SM96UK View Post
    shisui was already dead by this time
    Itachi met with him before he passed away. I think its pretty blatent to say his power was known by not only the Leaf but other Villages. It has been used and was used the question is on who and why?! I think its going to be a huge potentially universe changing reveal here. Or nothing at all lol
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
    Wasnt used on itachi.
    Just thinking logically maybe he needed a bit of help in murdering his clansmen and family.... Then again maybe not.
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    I highly doubt that, Itachi's ideals were the same as Shisui's, Itachi helped him on his own mind.
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Interesting point.

    While i don't think it was anyone other than Itachi's decision to exterminate the clan, yes why did a genius like Shisui simply fade away......

    Why indeed.
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Because Tobi needed to be created
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Tablet View Post
    Because Tobi needed to be created
    haha
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    your third post was a laugh, congrats
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Tablet View Post
    your third post was a laugh, congrats
    Its almost time for chapter 567. Do you stand by what you said, that the mask breaks and Shisui=Tobi?

    I believe that Tobi is Shisui as well for other reasons, but i don't claim to know when its revealed.

    But you claimed that the mask breaks in the next chapter so.....lets see what happens.
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    I always though that maybe he used it when he first unlocked his MS, and it was probly on no one important. Thus he found out he had this jutsu, and a few people seen it so that had proof. Thus he didn't need to prove it to anyone. (I think it would be funny if no one saw him do it and they told him to show them and was like oh wait I forgot to tell you there is a cool down period of ten years.)
    Anyway getting back to the point in my opinion shisui did not look that old when he died. So I am guessing he was in his 20 maybe even younger. I think he was still in the cool down time for the first time he used it when he gave it to Itachi.
    So maybe that's why Itachi came back that first time. Not only to make sure the elders kept their promise since the 3rd died but maybe to try and reach sasuke to use the eye.
    :shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    te interesting thing in that manga page was the part after he says it takes a decade "DISOUNTING SENJU HASHIRAMA's dna?

    wtf? discounting senju hashiramas dna??? does that man if you had his dna it wouldn't take 10 years? like when danzo had a bit of the dna in him and was a failed recreaton of the S06P it only took a few hours. he used it at the kage meting< and was almost able to use it on tobi when he was fighting sasuke.

    what wwhat????
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Interesting point, it had to have been used on someone...but I seriously doubt it was on Itachi, but who knows..
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Tablet View Post
    Because Tobi needed to be created
    Heh...
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoKage2 View Post
    Its almost time for chapter 567. Do you stand by what you said, that the mask breaks and Shisui=Tobi?

    I believe that Tobi is Shisui as well for other reasons, but i don't claim to know when its revealed.

    But you claimed that the mask breaks in the next chapter so.....lets see what happens.
    How can it be Shisui when Itachi had one eye and Danzo had the other? And why would Itachi said damn danzou...he destroyed SHISUI's eye before he died. Why would he talk in third person? Makes no sense.
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Razuu View Post
    How can it be Shisui when Itachi had one eye and Danzo had the other? And why would Itachi said damn danzou...he destroyed SHISUI's eye before he died. Why would he talk in third person? Makes no sense.



     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    i doubt that shusui could only use the koto amatsukami only to 10 to 10 years... kakashi can only use kumi twice and after that 2 weeks in recover,the ms eats alot of no-uchiha, even for itachi being a pure blood uchiha using a ms thats not his would take ages.
    i think what itachi mean was that in order to use that level of tech you need a unbeblive chackra amount or a unique vital chackra like hashirama. plus shusui eyes are unique so if not why danzo think out is eyes, why tobi interrest and more why is kabuto after shusui blood, i mean he ressuject madara?!
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoKage2 View Post



    That guy talks about Itachi wanting Tobi/Shisui to be his mentor yet Itachi always thought Tobi was Madara. If he knew tobi was Shisui why would he put amaterasu in Sasuke's eye to attack Tobi? I get it's just a theory for fun but it has a lot of holes.
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Razuu View Post
    That guy talks about Itachi wanting Tobi/Shisui to be his mentor yet Itachi always thought Tobi was Madara. If he knew tobi was Shisui why would he put amaterasu in Sasuke's eye to attack Tobi? I get it's just a theory for fun but it has a lot of holes.
    Is'nt that obvious? Tobi kept secrets from Itachi, he said it in the manga himself. Itachi was fooled:
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/397/10
    Or read it here:


    Its already been hinted, Itachi's witness accounts are'nt credible. What , lol do you believe him nd think Tobi's really Madara? Madara's an edo tensei, of course Itachi was deceived.

    Itachi did NOT know the real identity of Tobi.
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Shisui's the only one that makes sense really, he was a genius that randomly died...Itachi was powerful when he killed the clan no doubt but Tobi controlled the fox the night of Naruto's birth...so thats the only thing im wondering about because Shisui died like 8 years after that....It would explain why Tobi has always active like 3 tomoe sharingan and we havent seen much more...i want to know if and when the byakugan will play into this somewhere....
     
         

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    Re: Shisui and Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoKage2 View Post
    Is'nt that obvious? Tobi kept secrets from Itachi, he said it in the manga himself. Itachi was fooled:
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/397/10
    Or read it here:


    Its already been hinted, Itachi's witness accounts are'nt credible. What , lol do you believe him nd think Tobi's really Madara? Madara's an edo tensei, of course Itachi was deceived.

    Itachi did NOT know the real identity of Tobi.
    agreed
     
         

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