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    So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    Tobi didn't use Pain's jutsus ( shinra tensei , ....etc ) , because according to Kakashi Tobi's 6 paths of Pain are Jinchrikis , so controlling Bijuus with the eyes takes a lot of chakra , so using Pain's jutsus freely like Pain used to, only makes Tobi at a disadvantage by even consuming more of his chakra.

    So what do you think of this weakness ? Are Nagato's six paths of pain better or Tobi's six paths of pain ?

    Nagato's six paths of pain : Uses Rinnegan jutsus freely

    Tobi's six paths of pain : Has 6 bijuus power ( Bijuus may go out of control ) , but doing this consumes his chakra and consumes it even more if he uses Rinnegan jutsus.
     
         
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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    I'd say the Jinchuurikis. They have their bijuu powers plus rinnegan jutsu. They can finish the fight quickly and thus don't really need that much chakra for short fights. But for destroying villages, maybe Pain's.
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    jink power makes up for that

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    Well, Tobi's paths can use the body's real powers, and can even transform into tailed beast mode, means that the paths cannot use rinnegan powers, but are better than them due to each path is self sufficient.
    IN the Pain's case, the bodies can only use Rinnegan technique, like-
    1. Animal path, can only summon
    2. Deva path can do Shinra tensei and Banshino tennin, and chibaku tensei.
    3. .......and others, that make them a easy target to corner and kill them individually.

    But thats not the case of madara, each body is a fighter.

    So, Tobi's paths are more powerful.
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Uzumaki View Post
    Tobi didn't use Pain's jutsus ( shinra tensei , ....etc ) , because according to Kakashi Tobi's 6 paths of Pain are Jinchrikis , so controlling Bijuus with the eyes takes a lot of chakra , so using Pain's jutsus freely like Pain used to, only makes Tobi at a disadvantage by even consuming more of his chakra.

    So what do you think of this weakness ? Are Nagato's six paths of pain better or Tobi's six paths of pain ?

    Nagato's six paths of pain : Uses Rinnegan jutsus freely

    Tobi's six paths of pain : Has 6 bijuus power ( Bijuus may go out of control ) , but doing this consumes his chakra and consumes it even more if he uses Rinnegan jutsus.
    its not dat..its because kakashi gai already knows evrythn about peins jutsu dats why tobi s nt using it..kakashi himself that though chakra may also be a factor..
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    He doesnt need peins powers hes controlling all 6 juri's. I wonder how hes doing it or he has a huge chakra supply. I think hes a uzumaki, no no i Know hes a uzumaki :D hehehe
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    Quote Originally Posted by alipjana View Post
    its not dat..its because kakashi gai already knows evrythn about peins jutsu dats why tobi s nt using it..kakashi himself that though chakra may also be a factor..
    But Tobi didn't approve of Guy's opinion which is that they already know Pain's jutsus , but he approved of Kakashi's opinion which is chakra consumption
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzziiss View Post
    He doesnt need peins powers hes controlling all 6 juri's. I wonder how hes doing it or he has a huge chakra supply. I think hes a uzumaki, no no i Know hes a uzumaki :D hehehe
    Maybe it's Hashirama's cells that is helping him do that ( although he lost control of the Gobi )
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Uzumaki View Post
    But Tobi didn't approve of Guy's opinion which is that they already know Pain's jutsus , but he approved of Kakashi's opinion which is chakra consumption
    no one likes gai
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    tobi's paths are better. the deva path was only able to compete with 6-tails kyuubi with a huge chibaku tensei. tobi's paths are stronger individually, except for the deva, plus they regenerate, they can use a myraid of the original jinchuuriki's techniques, transform into their tailed beast form, and transform into their tailed beast (they're all perfect jinchuuriki). nagato's paths just can't compete
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Uzumaki View Post
    Maybe it's Hashirama's cells that is helping him do that ( although he lost control of the Gobi )
    I Think hes a Uzumaki and was using chakra chains to control him. If you look carefully They are differently chakra chains. That would explain why he knows so much
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzziiss View Post
    I Think hes a Uzumaki and was using chakra chains to control him. If you look carefully They are differently chakra chains. That would explain why he knows so much
    I wonder why doesn't Tobi just catch the wounded Hachibi with his chain like when he catched the Gobi like a boss
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    I'll go with tobi's 6
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    I think the power of 6 Bijuu's trumps what Nagato's 6 paths could do.
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzziiss View Post
    I Think hes a Uzumaki and was using chakra chains to control him. If you look carefully They are differently chakra chains. That would explain why he knows so much
    Dawg, He didn't lose control of the Gobi, you have to think he has split the 1-7 tailed beasts into their orginal bodies ontop of a Sharingan + Rinnegan into each corpse + Tobi's entangability and ontop of that we have no ****ing clue who he REALLY IS. I mean everyone has their own opinions, but I mean still... It's just theories. Nobody really knows besides Kishi. Anyways good chapter, I know they are all going to have problems, I mean you have to think Kabuto could help out Tobi instantly with a summon ontop of that you also have to think about Itachi being missing, he told naruto not to handle everything and that they should work together :P So yeah. I'm done... with this post... Peace.
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dregaur View Post
    Dawg, He didn't lose control of the Gobi, you have to think he has split the 1-7 tailed beasts into their orginal bodies ontop of a Sharingan + Rinnegan into each corpse + Tobi's entangability and ontop of that we have no ****ing clue who he REALLY IS. I mean everyone has their own opinions, but I mean still... It's just theories. Nobody really knows besides Kishi. Anyways good chapter, I know they are all going to have problems, I mean you have to think Kabuto could help out Tobi instantly with a summon ontop of that you also have to think about Itachi being missing, he told naruto not to handle everything and that they should work together :P So yeah. I'm done... with this post... Peace.
    He definitely lost control of the Gobi....they said it tried to attack him but he stopped it with the chains.
     
         

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    Re: So Tobi is at a disadvantage that Pain/Nagato doesn't have ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    I think the power of 6 Bijuu's trumps what Nagato's 6 paths could do.
    I also think so , but having Preta path ability to neutralize any ninjutsu is too cool to be unable to do it due to chakra loss.( even if it's for controlling bijuus )
     
         

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