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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by sandysennin View Post
    to be honest, i don't care much for the bible.
    Use common sense instead.

    If i say kill, will you do that blindly?
    I'm guessing you won't because your common sense tells you not to.

    Let me approach this differently:
    Do you teach astro phisics to a five year old?
    NO, cause, unless he's a gifted kid, he won't understand squat!

    My religious believe defends evolution all the way... we, human beings, evolved in every aspect, body and mind. Everything evolves.

    So, we must learn and evolve ourselfs, constantly.

    One of these days capitalism will fall, democracy as we know will fall (already is) and a better system will emerge.
    The same with religion. Our understanding is getting better and we must adjust our understanding of God as well.

    Or does science still thinks as it did 2 centuries ago?
    That's a good theory actually.

    But right now, we are destroying ourselves.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by sandysennin View Post
    to be honest, i don't care much for the bible.
    Use common sense instead.

    If i say kill, will you do that blindly?
    I'm guessing you won't because your common sense tells you not to.

    Let me approach this differently:
    Do you teach astro phisics to a five year old?
    NO, cause, unless he's a gifted kid, he won't understand squat!

    My religious believe defends evolution all the way... we, human beings, evolved in every aspect, body and mind. Everything evolves.

    So, we must learn and evolve ourselfs, constantly.

    One of these days capitalism will fall, democracy as we know will fall (already is) and a better system will emerge.
    The same with religion. Our understanding is getting better and we must adjust our understanding of God as well.

    Or does science still thinks as it did 2 centuries ago?

    You may have an interesting take on the subject, but I was simply saying that because the bible does condone things like rape and genocide and murder, it would be logical for those who read it act similar (not saying everyone who reads it does these things or anything like that). Because they would be acting, in their minds, in the name of god. And there can be no higher authority.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanwithnoplan View Post
    You may have an interesting take on the subject, but I was simply saying that because the bible does condone things like rape and genocide and murder, it would be logical for those who read it act similar (not saying everyone who reads it does these things or anything like that). Because they would be acting, in their minds, in the name of god. And there can be no higher authority.
    You're right on one take.
    But this is where common sense comes in. This is where KNOWLEDGE comes in. People who do commit such crimes and then state "Oh, but it's not forbidden in the Bible" are plain stupid.

    F*cking stupid. You have no idea how much I want to elaborate on this. How can you dare rape an innocent and then say "you didn't know it was wrong"?! It's common sense. Everybody has some knowledge of right and wrong, yet we have brainless d*ckheads coming up with these b*llshit excuses.

    And that's exactly what it is. Excuses. Using religion as their excuse. It's disgusting. Religion was — no, still is — beautiful. But the unknowledgeable have corrupted it. Completely.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanwithnoplan View Post
    You may have an interesting take on the subject, but I was simply saying that because the bible does condone things like rape and genocide and murder, it would be logical for those who read it act similar (not saying everyone who reads it does these things or anything like that). Because they would be acting, in their minds, in the name of god. And there can be no higher authority.
    I never read the Bible but I doubt that even if it mentions those things, that certainly don't mean that it Encourages those things. Like Zera said, perception is what matter and extremists are idiots who don't have that sense and that lack of perception also destroyed other logical senses.

    Also, this thread is on Domestic violence - which is not self-centered on religion!
    There's no point to make it a religion thread. Look at it in a humane point of view where it's clearly just a clear act of domestic violence and oppression of women.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Escorpiius View Post
    I never read the Bible but I doubt that even if it mentions those things, that certainly don't mean that it Encourages those things. Like Zera said, perception is what matter and extremists are idiots who don't have that sense and that lack of perception also destroyed other logical senses.

    Also, this thread is on Domestic violence - which is not self-centered on religion!
    There's no point to make it a religion thread. Look at it in a humane point of view where it's clearly just a clear act of domestic violence and oppression of women.
    If you haven't read the Bible then it doesn't matter what you think. I have read the bible cover to cover. It does in fact do the things I said.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Guys, religion got nothing to do with this thread.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanwithnoplan View Post
    If you haven't read the Bible then it doesn't matter what you think. I have read the bible cover to cover. It does in fact do the things I said.
    Like I said, it might does it but it isn't because of that, that it states those things in an encouraging/motivating manner. That's depends on the way you interpret.

    You might see an action film tomorrow where there's lots of killing ect...but that's not a reason that the movie encourages you to do that.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Escorpiius View Post
    Like I said, it might does it but it isn't because of that, that it states those things in an encouraging/motivating manner. That's depends on the way you interpret.

    You might see an action film tomorrow where there's lots of killing ect...but that's not a reason that the movie encourages you to do that.
    You haven't even read it man. You have no idea.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by 99minutes View Post
    That's a good theory actually.

    But right now, we are destroying ourselves.

    ...but destroying doesn't mean we will be destroyed.
    There's still time. We are in the phase to get all the dirt out. It's up to us to identify what is bad and try to erradicate that thru education.


    Quote Originally Posted by Amanwithnoplan View Post
    You may have an interesting take on the subject, but I was simply saying that because the bible does condone things like rape and genocide and murder, it would be logical for those who read it act similar (not saying everyone who reads it does these things or anything like that). Because they would be acting, in their minds, in the name of god. And there can be no higher authority.

    I get what your saying. That's why we should try to educate ourselves in the fine art of common sense. But that's not good for those whose god is money cause if you think for yourself you will show the middle fingir to those you pay less than €500 for a frakking heavy job.

    Keep ppl in ignorance. And many "religious" personalities did that.
    Now we still pay for that.


    Quote Originally Posted by 99minutes View Post
    You're right on one take.
    But this is where common sense comes in. This is where KNOWLEDGE comes in. People who do commit such crimes and then state "Oh, but it's not forbidden in the Bible" are plain stupid.

    F*cking stupid. You have no idea how much I want to elaborate on this. How can you dare rape an innocent and then say "you didn't know it was wrong"?! It's common sense. Everybody has some knowledge of right and wrong, yet we have brainless d*ckheads coming up with these b*llshit excuses.

    And that's exactly what it is. Excuses. Using religion as their excuse. It's disgusting. Religion was — no, still is — beautiful. But the unknowledgeable have corrupted it. Completely.

    Don't. Better end the religious discussion or the thread will end soon


    Quote Originally Posted by Escorpiius View Post
    I never read the Bible but I doubt that even if it mentions those things, that certainly don't mean that it Encourages those things. Like Zera said, perception is what matter and extremists are idiots who don't have that sense and that lack of perception also destroyed other logical senses.

    Also, this thread is on Domestic violence - which is not self-centered on religion!
    There's no point to make it a religion thread. Look at it in a humane point of view where it's clearly just a clear act of domestic violence and oppression of women.

    You are right. Sorry but i had to comment that other fellow.

    Anyhow, domestic violence is a problem everywhere.
    I don't know about your countries but here (Portugal) is a matter of fashion.

    One day is cool to talk about apples and they talk about it for a month.
    Then is nice to debate the current crises... let's spend a season talking about that and nothing else.

    Summer is quite nice in this aspect: silly season... if this case happened during August and had a youtube video, then we'd talking about domestic violence as if there's nothing more...
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by sandysennin View Post
    ...but destroying doesn't mean we will be destroyed.
    There's still time. We are in the phase to get all the dirt out. It's up to us to identify what is bad and try to erradicate that thru education.
    True, true. Proper education can solve many of the world's problems. But we need to educate in all aspects and concepts.

    *sigh* But I have a feeling that even education is reaching is peak nowadays. Nobody acts on knowledge anymore. It's only a matter of time before the Arts and Sciences vanish... or even worse, corrupted.
     
         
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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

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    I'd +rep you again... but I have to spread some first xD
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by 99minutes View Post
    True, true. Education can solve most, if not all, of the world's problems. But we need to educate in all aspects and concepts.

    *sigh* But I have a feeling that even education is reaching is peak nowadays. Nobody acts on knowledge anymore. It's only a matter of time before the Arts and Sciences vanish... or even worse, corrupted.
    I minored in Education and one thing i learned.

    Education is the means to Emancipation, to a responsable freedom by each and everyone of us. I wont elaborate more here, hope you understand the point.

    Emancipation, that is, we all thinking for ourselves means that no one will have power of you or me, nor us will have over others.

    Now, do you thing those power hanger junkies will allow that? NO.
    How can they control you? Thru Education.

    This is a contradiction right? But it's true. How?
    They decide what you must learn.

    Let us say you're awesome drawing but not that good in... maths... then your instantly labeled as dumb, cause you are supposed to have good grades in math.

    So, i'd say that education is corrupted, as science is, but not per se, those who govern us decide what they want and we must follow.

    If you rebel, then you are not smart because u don't know nor want to...

    But fear not, we are awake! lurking, waiting our moment
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    People want to have control. They will come up with ANY and I mean ANY excuse to maintain power. They will ignore all common sense and would warp ANYTHING to suit their goals. Religion isn't the cause, it is just an excuse these sick bastards use. If there wasn't religion they would cite tradition, or culture, or that is just how it is.

    If you want to blame anything blame teaching because someone taught this man to do this and another taught that woman to take it.
     
         
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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xentinel View Post

    True true true. ^^
    This includes and beats everything that others already said.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanwithnoplan View Post
    But the bible very clearly showing God doing/telling the humans to do those very things.
    eerrr!! I don't don't beleive in this modern bible, which i beleive is changed.. Thats why i'm saying that read and understand Quran.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    I think it's not just religion that's the issue here. There are extremists out there that say education, the type I've had anyway, poisons their belief system. All faiths that I've encountered has these people so it's not exclusive to one religion. It could also be that the husband felt that if his wife got an education, then he would feel less of a man because his wife is could be more knowledgeable than him. Regardless, it's horrible thing to happen to her.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by sandysennin View Post
    I minored in Education and one thing i learned.

    Education is the means to Emancipation, to a responsable freedom by each and everyone of us. I wont elaborate more here, hope you understand the point.

    Emancipation, that is, we all thinking for ourselves means that no one will have power of you or me, nor us will have over others.

    Now, do you thing those power hanger junkies will allow that? NO.
    How can they control you? Thru Education.

    This is a contradiction right? But it's true. How?
    They decide what you must learn.

    Let us say you're awesome drawing but not that good in... maths... then your instantly labeled as dumb, cause you are supposed to have good grades in math.

    So, i'd say that education is corrupted, as science is, but not per se, those who govern us decide what they want and we must follow.

    If you rebel, then you are not smart because u don't know nor want to...

    But fear not, we are awake! lurking, waiting our moment
    this dude has some wisdom, you earned my rep fully..i must study more.. alot and become wiser.. thank you bro for your wise words.. got me thinking, but i always keep my faith.. i keeps it 100% real.
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    He was obviously Jelly
     
         

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    Re: Welcome To Earth, Pick Your Religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xentinel View Post
    How was malcom X good sure he fought for civil rights but for the most part he supported violence, and we all know violence is good[Sarcasm]. If I had to pick a religion honestly it would be Christianity or Buddhism because well they are actually the most peaceful religions out there that I know of. If you follow the examples of their leaders and the people who started the religion you should have a really good life unlike some religions like Islam where some of their doctrines mean well but their role model Mohammed does a lot of questionable things.
     
         
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