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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    To all those who think that Madara = Danzo, it can't be true for 2 reasons.
    1. If it were true, Danzo wouldn't have killed the frog which was sent to summon Naruto. Madara wants the 9tails, so that action would be pointless.
    2. Like someone stated, it will also be pointless for Madara to instill hatred within Sasuke for the 3 elders (Danzo included), if he were in fact Danzo.
    All these Minato=Pain, Kushina Uzumaki=Animal realm, Obito=Tobi rumours are just crap. It's an anime for God's sake. People will look alike.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by meercy View Post

    Oro is ova confident...Thats why he lost to itachi, sasuke, and the 3rd(i only say the 3rd cause he just knew he would accomplish killin the 3rd..lol..)
    Yes sasuke beat him when he was weak....But i would to if i didnt want u to take ova my body on sum gay type stuff..lol....And as far as oro go about the ppl let do thier thing....It was all part of his brainwashing... Sasuke jus wasnt brainwashed by oro....He jus needed his power....

    And i doubt oro would have ever got out from bein surpressed by sasuke....
    Sasuke had to loose all his chakra to even hear oro talk and say let me help u....lol..

    and lol@u killed the thread.....
    Orochimaru underestimated the third because of his age. That's true.

    I don't understand mention of gay stuff has any relevance here. Oro understood humon pshyche and acted accordingly. he didn't need to actually brainwash anybody. He gave them what they wanted , if they could deliver to him what he wanted.

    That's why Naruto failed to logic with Kimimaru or it is pointless to argue about Oro to Kabuto. They respect him for their own reasons.

    As for Sasuke , Oro knew it was a risk. But Itachi had been a hurdle for him and he was eager to take chances. Oro had his own failsafe as we saw him alive in Sasuke. Itachi managed to trap him in that sword. Sasuke didn't defeat Oro. he just managed to survive till Itachi helped him out, even if he didn't know the possiblities.

    Both Sasuke as well as Oro were taking chances so that they could beat Itachi. Oro was taking over kabuto when we last saw him. Sooner or later Sasuke might have been taken over just like him.

    It is a kind of co-existance and we will never know for sure if Sasuke would have been that averse to it, if it meant he could have Oro's power in return. he told Naruto that he was ok if it happenned.


    Where I'm standing , it looks like both of them (oro and Sasuke) failed and Itachi will be the ultimate winner if Naruto manages to get sasuke back. It is not only Naruto's dream anymore. Itachi put his last hopes in him when he was dying.

    I want Itachi to have that win. He sacrificed too much for it.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Sly Anbu View Post
    To all those who think that Madara = Danzo, it can't be true for 2 reasons.
    1. If it were true, Danzo wouldn't have killed the frog which was sent to summon Naruto. Madara wants the 9tails, so that action would be pointless.
    2. Like someone stated, it will also be pointless for Madara to instill hatred within Sasuke for the 3 elders (Danzo included), if he were in fact Danzo.
    All these Minato=Pain, Kushina Uzumaki=Animal realm, Obito=Tobi rumours are just crap. It's an anime for God's sake. People will look alike.
    Agreed.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly Anbu View Post
    All these Minato=Pain, Kushina Uzumaki=Animal realm, Obito=Tobi rumours are just crap. It's an anime for God's sake. People will look alike.
    haha i totally agree, how on earth would minato have survived after usin the sealin jutsu?? its impossible, and there is still a chance that kushina is still alive...
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by isthatnecessary View Post
    ah ..

    Most likely Sasuke will see naruto's fight and realise he has again gotten stronger and will be pissed and go back to Madara and ready to take Itachi's eyes.

    Then naruto will go and learn to tame kyubi. In the end Naruto and Sasuke will come to a draw. Sasuke's current excuse of fighting Konoha was that , Itachi thought he was more important than the village. He will see the power Itachi gave naruto to counter sasuke and save Konoha(whatever is left of it) and then he will surrender.

    The only person winning will be Itachi. For he would have managed to outplay Madara even if posthumously.
    its not this manga or kishis style to make a fight come to a draw meaning every fight will have a winner and a loser.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by sageofmyobokuzan View Post
    haha i totally agree, how on earth would minato have survived after usin the sealin jutsu?? its impossible, and there is still a chance that kushina is still alive...
    I doubt that. As far as i know she died in child birth, around the same time when Fourth was fighting with the kyubi. At least that's what the anime said. i will check the manga later on.

    its not this manga or kishis style to make a fight come to a draw meaning every fight will have a winner and a loser
    That was written in half jest. But, it is safe to guess that whatever ultimate weapon Sasuke is going to use will be probably encountered by Itachi's gift. Or at least it will play an important role. otherwise it is pointless to keep it a mystry and all that " i hope you don't have to use it" crap.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by isthatnecessary View Post
    I doubt that. As far as i know she died in child birth, around the same time when Fourth was fighting with the kyubi. At least that's what the anime said. i will check the manga later on.



    That was written in half jest. But, it is safe to guess that whatever ultimate weapon Sasuke is going to use will be probably encountered by Itachi's gift. Or at least it will play an important role. otherwise it is pointless to keep it a mystry and all that " i hope you don't have to use it" crap.
    i wanna know what itachis gif is!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by isthatnecessary View Post
    I doubt that. As far as i know she died in child birth, around the same time when Fourth was fighting with the kyubi. At least that's what the anime said. i will check the manga later on.
    oh i thought that it was said that her whereabouts r unknown? i could b wrong tho
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    i know naruto is bomb
    But i miss saskue now wondering since he noticed his eyesight he will go for his brothers eyes
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    Well Sasuke didn't seem intimidated by orochimaru because Oro was weak at that point. At that point Kakashi could've beat him also. I like Sasuke, I do, but just the same as ever other mid ninja in the series.

    Someone responded to me saying that Sasuke isn't just an average ninja (I NEVER said that)...What I said was "Sasuke is only an average Uchiha" (Which is true). Of course being an average Uchiha makes him an above average ninja (We all know that).

    Sasuke is arrogant, and that's why he gets beat. It's true that Orochimaru was still inside Sasuke after their fight...That's my POINT!! Itachi had to take all these medicines to stay alive long enough to banish him from Sasukes body. Once again...Sasuke had to be save.

    And we all seen what happened after he lost the curse seal and all Orochimaru's powers...He was beaten to near DEATH by some clown ninja that was rappin the whole time while doing it, .
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by xerious View Post
    Itachi couldnt shut the sharingan down, just like kakashi cant
    We saw all the Uchihas from the Uchiha clan ware able to shut their sharingan down when they don't need it in battle. The only people who can't shut down the sharingan were Kakashi, Madara and Itachi. We know that Kakashi and Madara acquired someone else eyes. This were also imply that Itachi also got some else eyes. Sasuke is able to shut the sharingan because he has his orignal eyes. We all know that Sasuke is a little biotch at least he didn't steal someone else eyes. We have to give some credit to Sasuke because he avoided hurting people. But now he is confused and lame again.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by sinBLACK View Post
    Well Sasuke didn't seem intimidated by orochimaru because Oro was weak at that point. At that point Kakashi could've beat him also. I like Sasuke, I do, but just the same as ever other mid ninja in the series.

    Someone responded to me saying that Sasuke isn't just an average ninja (I NEVER said that)...What I said was "Sasuke is only an average Uchiha" (Which is true). Of course being an average Uchiha makes him an above average ninja (We all know that).

    Sasuke is arrogant, and that's why he gets beat. It's true that Orochimaru was still inside Sasuke after their fight...That's my POINT!! Itachi had to take all these medicines to stay alive long enough to banish him from Sasukes body. Once again...Sasuke had to be save.

    And we all seen what happened after he lost the curse seal and all Orochimaru's powers...He was beaten to near DEATH by some clown ninja that was rappin the whole time while doing it, .
    well kishi knew taht ppl think that saskuewas a broken character so he decided to make him lose
    & also he decidedto make saskue cocky & arrgont
    although saskue was looking very carefully @ kribais move
    Personall orochimaru has a lot of forbidden jutsu


    i dont think he knew saskue had kirin
    saskue was gunna show a ultiamte jutsu of orochimaru
    but orochimaru stopped him becausehe knew wat he was doing
    I am refering to shippuden 53
    watch him
     
         

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    WHAT?! Naruto draw with SASUKE?! Where do you come up with that. What technique does Sasuke have that can overcome Naruto? Sasuke is restricted to his Sharingan and it's many techniques. The Sharingan alone wont win against Naruto especially if that power Itachi gave him counters it.

    Naruto's potential exceeds all the other ninjas. Just picture Naruto in "Fox Mode" and "Sage Mode" at once. Genjutsu wont do it. Cause Naruto isn't weak against genjutsu anymore, we've seen that with Itachi.

    Plus let's not forget Naruto's up against Pein right (All alone). Sasuke could barely beat Deidra (The weakest link in that whole orginization). Naruto's on a whole nother level.

    Let's not forget the MOST IMPORTANT thing. When it comes down to it.....Naruto has more battle experience than Sasuke. Sasuke has been cooped up with Orochimaru for over 3 years training. Training is nothing compared to actually battle experience. Naruto had to train and battle. Sasuke was given TOOOOOO MANY powers that he didn't have to work for. And when he recieved them he never got to test them out in actual battle. Experience goes a long way. Think about it. Him supposedly be superior ninja (Him being an Uchiha and all), we had the hardest time beating normal ninjas. Deidra was only average and so is the 8tail (And sasuke LOST).

    So in the end Naruto has YEARS of experience over Sasuke (Which counts for alot) cause Sasuke was sitting underground running away from everybody for over 3 years. But people want to say he's at Naruto's level....PLEASE. He was in hiding and when he came out from under his rock, he was damn near KILLED!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by sinBLACK View Post
    WHAT?! Naruto draw with SASUKE?! Where do you come up with that. What technique does Sasuke have that can overcome Naruto? Sasuke is restricted to his Sharingan and it's many techniques. The Sharingan alone wont win against Naruto especially if that power Itachi gave him counters it.

    Naruto's potential exceeds all the other ninjas. Just picture Naruto in "Fox Mode" and "Sage Mode" at once. Genjutsu wont do it. Cause Naruto isn't weak against genjutsu anymore, we've seen that with Itachi.

    Plus let's not forget Naruto's up against Pein right (All alone). Sasuke could barely beat Deidra (The weakest link in that whole orginization). Naruto's on a whole nother level.

    Let's not forget the MOST IMPORTANT thing. When it comes down to it.....Naruto has more battle experience than Sasuke. Sasuke has been cooped up with Orochimaru for over 3 years training. Training is nothing compared to actually battle experience. Naruto had to train and battle. Sasuke was given TOOOOOO MANY powers that he didn't have to work for. And when he recieved them he never got to test them out in actual battle. Experience goes a long way. Think about it. Him supposedly be superior ninja (Him being an Uchiha and all), we had the hardest time beating normal ninjas. Deidra was only average and so is the 8tail (And sasuke LOST).

    So in the end Naruto has YEARS of experience over Sasuke (Which counts for alot) cause Sasuke was sitting underground running away from everybody for over 3 years. But people want to say he's at Naruto's level....PLEASE. He was in hiding and when he came out from under his rock, he was damn near KILLED!
    deidra was pretty much prepared for some of sasuke moves considering he did fight itachi a while back and, thats what his left or right eye is for apparently to counter the sharingan. killerbee i dont think is average, his fighting technique is pretty impressive, weilding 7 blades i believe and being able to put his chakra into the blade like sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    Well here's my thing. Let me ask you this, is you wanted to beat somebody up...would you go learn under somebody that lost to that person. Orochimaru Lost to Itachi, he was beaten easly. So what does Sasuke have to gain by training under him. Orochimaru admitted that he was weaker than Itachi.

    So with all Orochimaru's Forbidden techniques what does hope to accomplish. He can't beat Itachi. And remember...Itachi had Jariyaa in his sight (Him and Kasame together) and what did Itachi say???? Itachi said if he attacked Jariyaaa him and kasame would both did (REMEMBER THAT?!).

    Now Naruto trained under jariyaa and surpassed him. Now take a good look at that food chain. Sasuke trained under Orochimaru but Orochimaru can't even BEAT Itachi. Itachi then admits that he would die if he attacted Jirayaa a Ninja that Naruto just surpassed. So tell me again, what was the purpose of Sasuke training under Orochimaru.
     
         

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    I hear ya on the KillerBee character. But people build up Sasuke a little to much. Sasuke would be a badass if he was just a regular ninja. But he's NOT....He's an Uchiha and our standards of them are VERY VERY HIGH!! Itachi didn't disappoint, but Sasuke constantly disappoints me. But there's people that want to make excuses for him. We don't need to make excuses for Naruto cause he's pretty much beat everyone he's come across, and he's just a normal dude.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by sinBLACK View Post
    Well here's my thing. Let me ask you this, is you wanted to beat somebody up...would you go learn under somebody that lost to that person. Orochimaru Lost to Itachi, he was beaten easly. So what does Sasuke have to gain by training under him. Orochimaru admitted that he was weaker than Itachi.

    So with all Orochimaru's Forbidden techniques what does hope to accomplish. He can't beat Itachi. And remember...Itachi had Jariyaa in his sight (Him and Kasame together) and what did Itachi say???? Itachi said if he attacked Jariyaaa him and kasame would both did (REMEMBER THAT?!).

    Now Naruto trained under jariyaa and surpassed him. Now take a good look at that food chain. Sasuke trained under Orochimaru but Orochimaru can't even BEAT Itachi. Itachi then admits that he would die if he attacted Jirayaa a Ninja that Naruto just surpassed. So tell me again, what was the purpose of Sasuke training under Orochimaru.
    orochimaru couldnt defeat itachi because itachi saw through all of his moves because of his sharingan. remember back when orochimaru fought against jirayia and tsunade. orochimaru held his end going against two sannin and all with out both his hands.

    wasnt orochimaru the one that took out the 3rd hokage? he had to be strong to some extend for him to accomplish that.

    plus sasuke went to go train under orochimaru so that he could learn as much techniques as possible and he knew orochimaru was the one that can teach him alot of techniques.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    another thing sauske his battles that we see him fight in are like one after another. im not sure if was recovered from fighting itachi or not when he went to go fight killerbee. its just that he seem way to weak when he was fighting killerbee.

    another thing people make the MS sharingan seem way to power. in my opinion the only time i really see itachi or sasuake use the MS sharingan is to only do those power techniques that hurts there eyes and drains alot of chakra from them. i havent really seen MS sharingan used for something else, like to improve there reaction time like the orginal sharingan.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowNinja View Post
    orochimaru couldnt defeat itachi because itachi saw through all of his moves because of his sharingan. remember back when orochimaru fought against jirayia and tsunade. orochimaru held his end going against two sannin and all with out both his hands.

    wasnt orochimaru the one that took out the 3rd hokage? he had to be strong to some extend for him to accomplish that.

    plus sasuke went to go train under orochimaru so that he could learn as much techniques as possible and he knew orochimaru was the one that can teach him alot of techniques.
    But here's the thing the only reason Orochimaru was able to take both even without his arms is that Jirayia was drugged, and Tsunade was to scared of blood to react. Once she snapped out of it. Orochimaru retreated at that point.

    Orochimaru didn't take out the third. The third took out himself and sealed his arms. He would of taken them both out if Orochimaru didn't partially block his jutsu.

    After that you never see Orochimaru win against anybody just run away or get killed.

    So Jirayia was a much better teacher to follow and stronger than Itachi, who let Sasuke win. Naruto surpassed Jirayia so he is stronger than everybody pretty much. He just still doesn't have the battle experience yet of his pops or J man to be the best there ever was yet, but he's getting there. Plus knowing Naruto he's still susceptible to genjutsu at least until he can learn to drawe in Natural energy while moving to stay in sage mode. In order to get that chakra to disrupt the genjutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

    Wowwww... I just had an idea... What if the real Pain (I mean the real one who is not among them :D) can`t fight on his own because it is too dangerous for him... Maybe he has a short lifespan left... something like Kimimaro... Kimimaro was super-strong but only lasted while the candle was lit perhaps it`s the same thing with Pain.

    But naaaaahhh... the real Pain has to be the strongest motha stronger than all of 6 bodies put together.
     
         

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