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      Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      REI's R&R
      ALL OUT BATTLE
      No stealing
      Yes killing
      Mid-Range
      Plain field w/ a water source


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      post your bio and decide on who goes first .-.
       
           

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      Ao bio on sig. I'll go first.

      Staff of Gaia on my back

      Gaia No Buin | The Staff of Gaia
      Type: Weapon
      Rank: S-Rank
      Range: Short
      Chakra: N/A
      Damage: N/A
      Description:
      The staff of Gaia, goddess protector of Earth, stolen by a special human for whom se had fell in love. The staff is covered in several ancient Kanji inscriptions and is about 1.7m long, 4 cms thick and made of sacred wood and a special unknown metal which makes it indestructible. The staff itself can channel Katon, Doton and Mokuton chakras and is a formidable hand to hand weapon. As the weapon of a God, no human can grasp its powers fully but the staff is known to have responded to some unique jutsu, a fact that has been related to the kanji inscriptions but is yet to be fully explained.

      Abilities:
      -Indestructible
      -Doton: Domu | Earth Release: Iron Skin jutsu gets 2 Ranks in strength when used, making one almost indestructible to physical attacks.
      -Katon: Karyu Endan | Fire Style: Dragon Flame Bomb jutsu gets 2 Ranks in strength when used, outputting a higher amount of fire.
      -Kyousei Mokuton No Jutsu | Greater Wood Style Technique can be made out of the Staff's wood.
      -Staff can dispel a Katon jutsu, disrupt a Doton jutsu or stop a Mokuton jutsu up to B-Rank 2 times per battle (this is done by the user channeling his Katon, Doton or Mokuton chakra into the staff and hitting the jutsu with it, which disrupts, dispels or stops the jutsu) and/or dispel/disrupt/stop 1 complete A-Rank Katon, Doton or Mokuton jutsu once per battle (with the same principle).

      Resctrictions:
      -All abilities of the staff count towards the move count and don't require hand seals if the user is holding the staff on his hands.
      -The kanji's on the staff glow when chakra is channeled into it or its abilities used.
      -If user is hit by lightning while holding the staff in his hands he'll receive a +20 damage penalty due to the staffs inherent Earth and Wood affinities.
      -When used to counter 1 B-Rank technique it can only be used again to counter another B-Rank.
      -While holding the staff in his hands, the user can't channel lightning jutsu.
      -To wield the staffs abilities the user must have it with him either in hand or strapped to his back.
      -Requires Wood Training and Bio to use the Wood Ability but not to wield the staff.
      -The staff can only be wielded by Scorps; is someone else tries to wield the staff it will become 10 tons heavy and impossible to lift or wield.


      ##################

      You know why they name me Forgiveness?


      *I activate my byakugan and close my other eye. Imediatly as i step into Mid range i do 1 handseal (see bio for reference) and leave you unable to move, having difficulty breathing and completely restrain*

      Genjutsu: Akuma no Houyou | Ilussionary Arts: Demonic Hug
      Type: Offensive/Defensive
      Rank: A-Rank
      Range: Short to Mid
      Chakra: 30 (+10 next turn to keep active)
      Damage: 60 (at the end of the 2 turns)
      Description:
      The user makes 3 simple hand seals (Boar+Serpent+Rat) and makes the enemy feel as if he's being tightly squeezed; as if pressure is being applied to every point of his body, rendering him restraint and unable to move. The pressure on the enemy's body is so great that he'll feel it hard to breathe and will begin to hyperventilate and eventually will enter a panic state as the pressure keeps building on his body. If he doesn't dispel the Genjutsu he'll faint from hyperventilation in the second turn.

      Note: Can only be used twice
      Note2: Has to be taught by Scorps
      Note3: Can't use Genjutsu in the same turn or the next

      *I follow this with 3 more handseals and make two arms from the ground rise up and grab your own arms (before you can actually move - see speed enhancement in Earth Jutsu), ripping them from your body as they crush them (since we are in mid range)*

      (Doton: Earth Arms)
      Rank: B
      Type: Supplementary/Attack
      Range: Short-long
      Chakra cost: 40
      Damage Points: N/A
      Description: After making 3 hand signs the user sends his earth chakra into the ground around his opponent and raises arms from the ground that can grab his opponent and hold him/her in place.
      -The user must make contact with the ground in order to use this jutsu meaning he/she cannot use this while being in the air.
      -Must be taught by ~Yard~
      -Must have a proper understanding of earth jutsu meaning you must be able to use B rank earth to learn this jutsu.
      Note: If used in short-mid range you can add more chakra to the arms of earth and use them to crush the limbs of your opponent.

      *I follow this by making 3 handseals and focusing a large amount of chakra around your head, releaseing and creating a large vortex of chakra that crushes and destroys your head, ripping it to shreads even before you can move an inch*

      Chakra Arashi | Chakra Storm
      Type: Attack
      Rank: S Rank
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra Cost: 40
      Damage Points: 80
      Description: The user makes three hand seals and gathers a large amount of chakra in one specific location within a mid-range of themselves. They then begin vibrating and rotating the mass of chakra an extreme amount. Anything caught in this area will be twisted and pressured an extremely great deal by the swirling vortex of chakra.
      Note: When the chakra has been gathered in the set area, the air will shimmer for a few seconds before the vortex begins.
      Note: The area that is being effected can have a maximum of a 2 meter diameter.
      Note: After using this technique, the user is unable to use any standard ninjutsu for the next two turns.
      Note: Can only be used twice per match.
      Note: This jutsu doesn't suck the opponent toward the vortex and only affect what comes in direct contact with it.
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      GL to both, a little more to Igneel. Fear out.
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Quote Originally Posted by Darui.. View Post
      GL to both, a little more to Igneel. Fear out.
      He doesn't need it.
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Yeah darui scorps is right,I don't nee little more luck..I need lots of it
      ___________________
      Just as you come into range I activate my sharingan and as i glare at you,i notice you sending chakra towards me and so i remain on guard and notices the chakra is going towards my head,I immediately know its going to be a gen and so i reach the pouch on my back and take out a kunai and as soon as i feel getting squeezed I stab the side of my left thigh
      and releases from the gen and just after releasing from it,I feel the earth below me is about to crack and so i release a powerful field of electricity(happens as the arms just pops out,and the jutsu is instantaneous as said by mugi).The field also shocks and pretty much hard to get away.Just after releasing it,I make a hanseal making 2 clones berubo and oga(berubo 2m away from me and oga next to me)


      Oga--Me-------Berubo

      The instant they come into existence,berubo does a handseal spewing out a huge fire ball towards you.Right after making the clone,oga tears a part of his shirt and ties up my wound.All this time I keep my eyes on you

      (Raiton: Hiraishin no Jintai) -Lightning Release: Human Lightning Rod
      Rank: A
      Type: Supplementary/Defensive
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra: 30
      Damage: 60 (if opponent is within the field)
      Description:The user emits a powerful field of electrical energy; anyone caught within it gains a negative charge. The user positively charges the air around him, meaning that if the opponent is within the field he/she is constantly shocked by lightning. Although, raiton jutsu are almost impossible to dodge while within the field, the field only extends 10 meters from the user. This jutsu also does a great job of disrupting electrical jutsu aimed at the user.
      (Last 3 Turns)
      (Usable only once)



      (Kage Bunshin no Jutsu) -Shadow Clone Technique
      Rank:B
      Type:Supplementary Range:Short
      Chakra Cost:20
      Damage Points:N/A
      Description: The Kage Bunshin distributes the ninja's chakra evenly among the clones and creates a real copy with form and substance. The clone itself can also utilize any jutsu the original ninja knows. When the clone finally disperses, any new knowledge it has gained is passed back to the original ninja and any additional clones. Upon impact, the clone can be dispersed.



      [B](Katon: Zukokku) - Fire Style:Intense Pain[B]
      Rank: A
      Type: Offense
      Range: Short/Mid
      Chakra Cost: 30
      Damage Points: 60
      Description: A huge burst of fire that turns into a huge fireball and can cover a large area,burning all in its path

      I don't know the meaning of forgiveness nor do I care,I only know wrath and wrath alone
       
           
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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Quote Originally Posted by Igneel View Post
      Yeah darui scorps is right,I don't nee little more luck..I need lots of it
      ___________________
      Just as you come into range I activate my sharingan and as i glare at you,i notice you sending chakra towards me and so i remain on guard and notices the chakra is going towards my head,I immediately know its going to be a gen and so i reach the pouch on my back and take out a kunai and as soon as i feel getting squeezed I stab the side of my left thigh
      and releases from the gen and just after releasing from it,
      I feel the earth below me is about to crack and so i release a powerful field of electricity(happens as the arms just pops out,and the jutsu is instantaneous as said by mugi).The field also shocks and pretty much hard to get away.Just after releasing it,I make a hanseal making 2 clones berubo and oga(berubo 2m away from me and oga next to me)


      Oga--Me-------Berubo

      The instant they come into existence,berubo does a handseal spewing out a huge fire ball towards you.Right after making the clone,oga tears a part of his shirt and ties up my wound.All this time I keep my eyes on you

      (Raiton: Hiraishin no Jintai) -Lightning Release: Human Lightning Rod
      Rank: A
      Type: Supplementary/Defensive
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra: 30
      Damage: 60 (if opponent is within the field)
      Description:The user emits a powerful field of electrical energy; anyone caught within it gains a negative charge. The user positively charges the air around him, meaning that if the opponent is within the field he/she is constantly shocked by lightning. Although, raiton jutsu are almost impossible to dodge while within the field, the field only extends 10 meters from the user. This jutsu also does a great job of disrupting electrical jutsu aimed at the user.
      (Last 3 Turns)
      (Usable only once)



      (Kage Bunshin no Jutsu) -Shadow Clone Technique
      Rank:B
      Type:Supplementary Range:Short
      Chakra Cost:20
      Damage Points:N/A
      Description: The Kage Bunshin distributes the ninja's chakra evenly among the clones and creates a real copy with form and substance. The clone itself can also utilize any jutsu the original ninja knows. When the clone finally disperses, any new knowledge it has gained is passed back to the original ninja and any additional clones. Upon impact, the clone can be dispersed.



      [B](Katon: Zukokku) - Fire Style:Intense Pain[B]
      Rank: A
      Type: Offense
      Range: Short/Mid
      Chakra Cost: 30
      Damage Points: 60
      Description: A huge burst of fire that turns into a huge fireball and can cover a large area,burning all in its path

      I don't know the meaning of forgiveness nor do I care,I only know wrath and wrath alone
      Well, you are dead. Look at the bolded part. You reacted to something before you have any way to know what it was as even with the Sharingan if you take the kunai in response to the fact that you predict that i'm going to put you under a genjutsu its not valid. Time frame breaking. Also, my Genjutsu renders you unable to move. So, even if you took a kunai from your pounche before the genjutsu hit (which is a time frame break but people with argue otherwise), once the genjutsu hits you can't move so you can't stab yourself in the tight with it.

      The earth arms grab your arms and rip them as your head is then ripped to shreads and transformed into mush.

      Sorry Igneel, but you died.

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      I can't imagine what sin were you...
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      First of all taking out a kunai in response to the jutsu is not breaking the time frame,if i threw it or stabbed myself before you use the gen then it would have been broken.Also I can predict jutsu's easily with my sharingan and can predict your gen.

      I honestly didn't see the movement restriction part in the gen,anyways even if I'm under the gen,I would still be able to use the lightning jutsu(no handseals) which is similar to nagashi,but much more quicker.This would be enough for me to break the gen.
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Quote Originally Posted by Igneel View Post
      First of all taking out a kunai in response to the jutsu is not breaking the time frame,if i threw it or stabbed myself before you use the gen then it would have been broken.Also I can predict jutsu's easily with my sharingan and can predict your gen.

      I honestly didn't see the movement restriction part in the gen,anyways even if I'm under the gen,I would still be able to use the lightning jutsu(no handseals) which is similar to nagashi,but much more quicker.This would be enough for me to break the gen.
      Fail again. Look at the rules:

      Genjutsu Release restrictions:

      ►When coming to release genjutsu techniques there are a few methods available that can help remove the affects. There basic of methods is through the appliance of pain for example stabbing oneself with a kunai in the leg can cause pain throughout the body and breaking genjutsu up to S rank level and Doujutsu up to A rank level. Members who posses sage modes are invulnerable to Genjutsu and doujutsu except Mangekyo level genjutsu. Bijuu who possess full control and of the rank of Kage are able to disrupt the chakra flow from the opponents Genjutsu. Techniques that produce a sufficient chakra surges thought the users body may disrupt genjutsu of the rank below the used technique for example Chidori Nagashi A rank lightning technique can disrupt genjutsu of up to B rank.
      Note: Lip biting or biting of tounge doesn’t cause enough pain to break free from genjutsu so this method is unallowed, however biting tounge off completely could work but obviously without its risks.
      This means that technique can't break the genjutsu. You'd need at least an S-Rank similar technique to do so.

      You can continue if you'd like. But your head was blown off and by the time i end my turn, you'll be fainting from the gen so its pointless.
       
           
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      Igneel, you have no way of knowing his chakra is going to be used for genjutsu. For all you know, that chakra comming toward your head could begin to petrify it as touches your skin. So you wouldnt realize the chakra is for a genjutsu until it hits you and by them, you would be petrified while scrops begins his next et of handseals. Your lightning technique would then need to be s-ranked in order to break free of the genjutsu, which it wasnt, so you are still petrified.
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Quote Originally Posted by Igneel View Post
      Yeah darui scorps is right,I don't nee little more luck..I need lots of it
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      Just as you come into range I activate my sharingan and as i glare at you,i notice you sending chakra towards me and so i remain on guard and notices the chakra is going towards my head,I immediately know its going to be a gen and so i reach the pouch on my back and take out a kunai and as soon as i feel getting squeezed I stab the side of my left thigh
      and releases from the gen and just after releasing from it,I feel the earth below me is about to crack and so i release a powerful field of electricity(happens as the arms just pops out,and the jutsu is instantaneous as said by mugi).The field also shocks and pretty much hard to get away.Just after releasing it,I make a hanseal making 2 clones berubo and oga(berubo 2m away from me and oga next to me)


      Oga--Me-------Berubo

      The instant they come into existence,berubo does a handseal spewing out a huge fire ball towards you.Right after making the clone,oga tears a part of his shirt and ties up my wound.All this time I keep my eyes on you

      (Raiton: Hiraishin no Jintai) -Lightning Release: Human Lightning Rod
      Rank: A
      Type: Supplementary/Defensive
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra: 30
      Damage: 60 (if opponent is within the field)
      Description:The user emits a powerful field of electrical energy; anyone caught within it gains a negative charge. The user positively charges the air around him, meaning that if the opponent is within the field he/she is constantly shocked by lightning. Although, raiton jutsu are almost impossible to dodge while within the field, the field only extends 10 meters from the user. This jutsu also does a great job of disrupting electrical jutsu aimed at the user.
      (Last 3 Turns)
      (Usable only once)



      (Kage Bunshin no Jutsu) -Shadow Clone Technique
      Rank:B
      Type:Supplementary Range:Short
      Chakra Cost:20
      Damage Points:N/A
      Description: The Kage Bunshin distributes the ninja's chakra evenly among the clones and creates a real copy with form and substance. The clone itself can also utilize any jutsu the original ninja knows. When the clone finally disperses, any new knowledge it has gained is passed back to the original ninja and any additional clones. Upon impact, the clone can be dispersed.



      [B](Katon: Zukokku) - Fire Style:Intense Pain[B]
      Rank: A
      Type: Offense
      Range: Short/Mid
      Chakra Cost: 30
      Damage Points: 60
      Description: A huge burst of fire that turns into a huge fireball and can cover a large area,burning all in its path

      I don't know the meaning of forgiveness nor do I care,I only know wrath and wrath alone
      Ok, i'll defend from the lightning and keep this going! ^^

      ±±±±±±

      Wrath? Pitiful... An uchiha that doesn't even understand how Genjutsu works? Humpf...

      *As a massive amount of chakra is released by you and my earth arms are being destroyed, to defend myself i make two hand seals while inhaling, exhaling then a giant bullet of wind. I continue making 2 more hand seals and the technique becomes giant and enormously powerful. I continue to add hand seals and ignite it into a Wind/Fire Combo. This massive bullet of Wind and Fire easily overcomes your lightning and destroys you while you are unable to move completely frozen in place and with enormous difficulty breathing, gasping and hyperventilating*

      (Fūton: Shinkū Taigyoku) – Wind Release: Great Balls of Wind
      Rank: S
      Type: Attack
      Range: Short – Mid
      Chakra cost: 40
      Damage points: 80
      Description: After performing two hand seals the user launches a large, explosive bullet of wind chakra from their mouth at their target.


      (Fuuton: kaze kakujuu) - Wind style: Wind expansion
      Type: Attack/Defence
      Rank: A
      Range: Short - long
      Chakra Cost:30
      Damage Points: + 25
      Description: After releasing a wind jutsu the user will perform 2 handseals as they release there chakra into the wind jutsu. In doing so, the user will increase the power and size of the wind jutsu boosting any wind jutsu by 25 damage points. By the increase in chakra the wind gains more power as it increases the power of the wind blast aswell as the size by expanding the wind currents.

      Note: Can only use used on wind the user or the users summon has created
      Note: Can only be used once one each wind jutsu creates
      Note: can only be used 3 times


      Katon: Tanshin No Atsui Hai | Fire Release: The Lonesome Ember
      Type: Offensive/Supplementary/Defensive
      Rank: B-Rank
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra: 20
      Damage: N/A (20 if clothes ignite, +20 when used with a Fuuton Jutsu)
      Description:
      User does 2 hand seals (Ram+Tiger) and focuses his fire chakra into a specific spot on the enemies clothes igniting them in a small cinder that creates smoke. This produces a small cinder spot that erupts in small flames. Its main purpose is to distract and confuse the enemy. However, if the enemy fails to put out the ignited spot it will eventually start to consume the clothes and create small open flames that will slightly burn him. This technique can also be used on paper or other easily flammable materials or to ignite a Fuuton jutsu.

      Note: The ignited spot can easily be put out by taping it with an open palm or with a little water.
      Note2: Enemy has to put out the ignited spot in the turn its used or in the next turn it will ignite the rest of his clothes.
      Note3: Can't ignite flesh or wet materials.
      Note4: The speed of ignition is slow except on paper or other more flammable materials.
      Note5: Usable 5 times.
      Note6: The ignition spot has to be within the users visual field.
      Note7: Can only be taught by Scorps.

      Note: The 3 techniques combine into each other to form a 135 damage Fire/Wind combo of massive proportions that will quickly engulf you while you are unable to move
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Scorps i want my turn after i fight Mathy. ^_^ You just don't kill and get away.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Darui.. View Post
      Scorps i want my turn after i fight Mathy. ^_^ You just don't kill and get away.
      Sorry, but i already have an appointment once this is finished if i win. If i die then no dice. loll
       
           

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      Nuuuuuuuuus
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Darui.. View Post
      Nuuuuuuuuus
      There will be other fights...anywhore....lets see what igneel does in his move
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Quote Originally Posted by Scary Yamato View Post
      Igneel, you have no way of knowing his chakra is going to be used for genjutsu. For all you know, that chakra comming toward your head could begin to petrify it as touches your skin. So you wouldnt realize the chakra is for a genjutsu until it hits you and by them, you would be petrified while scrops begins his next et of handseals. Your lightning technique would then need to be s-ranked in order to break free of the genjutsu, which it wasnt, so you are still petrified.
      SY what you said is slightly wrong,I discussed the genjutsu part with zenryoku and he said that I would be able to predict the gen because of the way chakra behaves and its nature in a genjutsu.And this one of the advantages of sharingan

      @Scorps:I will reply later,need to confirm one more thing
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      The thing is that you might know that i was going to use a Genjutsu once i do the handseal [note that before i do, there is no chakra coming your way] (which, honestly, i doubt and i disagree with Zen on this, since this isn't a visual genjutsu and you have a 2T sharingan) but by stating this:

      Just as you come into range I activate my sharingan and as i glare at you,i notice you sending chakra towards me and so i remain on guard and notices the chakra is going towards my head,I immediately know its going to be a gen and so i reach the pouch on my back and take out a kunai and as soon as i feel getting squeezed I stab the side of my left thigh
      You actually broke the time frame rule as you were already doing the counter (taking the kunai and stabbing yourself would be your counter) before the technique was done. You say you stabbed yourself once the technique takes effect, however, once the technique takes effect you can't move, so how can you stab yourself?

      Sharingan gives you insight and the ability to perceive things with increased speed. It doesn't, however, grant you the ability to move or react to what you are perceiving with a speed above your opponent. Sasuke could see Rock Lee moving but he couldn't react as fast. This is the case. You might, once i do the handseal, know its a genjutsu but by the time you formulate the idea of taking the kunai and reacting you'd be already under the genjutsu (again, once handseal and you are under the gen...) and thus you wouldn't move so you don't have time to move the hand and grba the kunai in the first place let alone stabbing yourself with it. Saying you do so before the genjutsu works is breaking the time frame. I doubt that Zen said that Sharingan users can bypass the time frame rule.

      Same thing happens with the elemental counters. You can, as your opponent is molding his chakra and doing handseals, predict the nature of his technique (if it has handseals and i don't agree it would work with customs you haven't ever seen before but meh...), but you can't do a technique to counter it before his is done. Its the same.

      I won't argue anymore. I've clearly stated my reasons for the fact that you were unable to release from the gen and the fact that you are misusing the sharingan. And, since you didn't release from the genjutsu, a combo of great strength is heading your way.

      However, if i'm ruled wrong, then all the sharingan use must be rephrased and the time rule must be reworked.
       
           
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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Quote Originally Posted by Scorps View Post
      The thing is that you might know that i was going to use a Genjutsu once i do the handseal [note that before i do, there is no chakra coming your way] (which, honestly, i doubt and i disagree with Zen on this, since this isn't a visual genjutsu and you have a 2T sharingan) but by stating this:



      You actually broke the time frame rule as you were already doing the counter (taking the kunai and stabbing yourself would be your counter) before the technique was done. You say you stabbed yourself once the technique takes effect, however, once the technique takes effect you can't move, so how can you stab yourself?

      Sharingan gives you insight and the ability to perceive things with increased speed. It doesn't, however, grant you the ability to move or react to what you are perceiving with a speed above your opponent. Sasuke could see Rock Lee moving but he couldn't react as fast. This is the case. You might, once i do the handseal, know its a genjutsu but by the time you formulate the idea of taking the kunai and reacting you'd be already under the genjutsu (again, once handseal and you are under the gen...) and thus you wouldn't move so you don't have time to move the hand and grba the kunai in the first place let alone stabbing yourself with it. Saying you do so before the genjutsu works is breaking the time frame. I doubt that Zen said that Sharingan users can bypass the time frame rule.

      Same thing happens with the elemental counters. You can, as your opponent is molding his chakra and doing handseals, predict the nature of his technique (if it has handseals and i don't agree it would work with customs you haven't ever seen before but meh...), but you can't do a technique to counter it before his is done. Its the same.

      I won't argue anymore. I've clearly stated my reasons for the fact that you were unable to release from the gen and the fact that you are misusing the sharingan. And, since you didn't release from the genjutsu, a combo of great strength is heading your way.

      However, if i'm ruled wrong, then all the sharingan use must be rephrased and the time rule must be reworked.
      Where did I say that I'm free from the gen.And I didn't misuse sharingan and by saying that you are starting to piss me off.I already told you I can predict the gen by seeing how your chakra behaves and I can see the chakra coming towards me for the gen and I can react accordingly.The chakra is not gonna reach me in a flash -_-

      I know I'm under the gen and that was because i didn't notice the 'restrain movements' part in the gen.Also taking out a kunai is not breaking time frame for godsake.So basically you are saying I can't move a muscle in my body before you do your first jutsu. O.o

      Also I never said I saw you release chakra before you do the handseal,I jus t said I see you release chakra which is obviously after the handseal and you .And about the visual gen part,you are completely utterly wrong,sharingan can see the way chakra behaves in a gen

      Now for the stabbing part,I said I stabbed myself after getting squeezed,which is a result of your gen.

      O.o ok
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      We will resume with me under the gen
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      just as i stay frozen i begin to think of a way to free myself,i see you do handseals and at the moment the wind bullets leaver your mouth water sprouts under me and immediately shocks me freeing myself from the gen.(I took some damage and cannot use S-Rank jutsu's for 1 turn,confirmed by zen)and as i am free the huge wind bullet is coming at me(after being enhanced by the expansion).I quickly use my raiton chakra and channel it through out my body and moves in a flash 10m left of where I was standing evading it and stares at you.

      NOTE: you will be using the fire jutsu when I move from my earlier spot

      (Raiton: Horyu Raika no Jutsu) –Lightning Release: Discharge Lightning Calamity Technique
      Rank: B
      Type: Offensive
      Range: Mid
      Chakra cost: 20
      Damage points: 40
      Description: The user will create a field of water under the opponent before shocking them with a lightning attack.



      Raiton: Raiya Houchou (Lightning Release: Lightning Arrow Step)
      Rank: A
      Type: Supplementary/Attack
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra: 30
      Damage: (60 if used to attack)
      Description: By harnessing the earth's electrical fields to generate electricity, this works as long as the user's legs are connected to the earth. When in use, this allows the user to nearly instantly to close short distances and strike within the same motion. Usable at distances of several feet or less, this allows one to deliver an electrically charged palm thrust should it connect. If no contact is made between the ground and the user's legs, this is unusable. There is a downside as the user cannot change directions once the technique is initiated, thus allowing a more skilled opponent to dodge if they see it coming.
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Quote Originally Posted by Igneel View Post
      We will resume with me under the gen
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      just as i stay frozen i begin to think of a way to free myself,i see you do handseals and at the moment the wind bullets leaver your mouth water sprouts under me and immediately shocks me freeing myself from the gen.(I took some damage and cannot use S-Rank jutsu's for 1 turn,confirmed by zen)and as i am free the huge wind bullet is coming at me(after being enhanced by the expansion).I quickly use my raiton chakra and channel it through out my body and moves in a flash 10m left of where I was standing evading it and stares at you.

      NOTE: you will be using the fire jutsu when I move from my earlier spot

      (Raiton: Horyu Raika no Jutsu) –Lightning Release: Discharge Lightning Calamity Technique
      Rank: B
      Type: Offensive
      Range: Mid
      Chakra cost: 20
      Damage points: 40
      Description: The user will create a field of water under the opponent before shocking them with a lightning attack.



      Raiton: Raiya Houchou (Lightning Release: Lightning Arrow Step)
      Rank: A
      Type: Supplementary/Attack
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra: 30
      Damage: (60 if used to attack)
      Description: By harnessing the earth's electrical fields to generate electricity, this works as long as the user's legs are connected to the earth. When in use, this allows the user to nearly instantly to close short distances and strike within the same motion. Usable at distances of several feet or less, this allows one to deliver an electrically charged palm thrust should it connect. If no contact is made between the ground and the user's legs, this is unusable. There is a downside as the user cannot change directions once the technique is initiated, thus allowing a more skilled opponent to dodge if they see it coming.
      Meh...

      ±±±±

      *As i see water materializing beneath you i change my initial move, and right after i do the expansion technique and enlarged the wind bullet to enormous sizes. I quickly figure out this will take more time so i immediately make a simple hand seal and produce 4 clones Lefty, Righty, Behind and Background (2 on each side, 2 behind me) all with Byakugan activated*

      (Kage Bunshin no Jutsu) - Shadow Clone Technique
      Rank:B
      Type:Supplementary
      Range:Short
      Chakra Cost:20
      Damage Points:N/A
      Description: The Kage Bunshin distributes the ninja's chakra evenly among the clones and creates a real copy with form and substance. The clone itself can also utilize any jutsu the original ninja knows. When the clone finally disperses, any new knowledge it has gained is passed back to the original ninja and any additional clones. Upon impact, the clone can be dispersed.

      *At this point i'm going to assume you have just moved into your final position after the lightning movement technique (the time it takes to move is quite low so after my enhanced wind bullet is sent you'd be moving and by the speed of the technique you'd move quite fast). Lefty slams his hand on the ground, causing a 3 by 3 meters square area beneath you to rise 20 meters in the air with giant speed. Righty at the same time creates a dropping lid on top of you compressing you beneath both. Behind and Background throw kunais with explosive tags through the gap beneath me and Lefty and Righty, aimed at you. The explosive tags are set to be triggered by either impact or through a handseal*

      (Doton: Chidōkaku) - Earth Release: Moving Earth Core
      Rank: A
      Type: Offensive, Defensive, Supplementary
      Range: Short - Long
      Chakra cost: 30
      Damage points: N/A
      Description: The user lowers or raises the ground in the surrounding area at high speeds, allowing them to create giant holes in the ground or avoid attacks. The size of the affected area as well as the depths that it is lowered to is up to the user and rasing earth can be done up to 20 meters tallcreating a small cliff or they can create trenches that can be as deep as 2meters. Other than being moved below ground relative to the surrounding surface the terrain is not altered, plant life and people retaining their same positions.

      (Doton: Otoshibuta) – Earth Release: Dropping Lid
      Rank: B
      Type: Attack
      Range: Short-Long
      Chakra cost: 20
      Damage points: 40
      Description: The user creates a giant, boar-shaped, earthen lid high in the air that falls on the target, trapping them underneath.
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Quote Originally Posted by Igneel View Post
      SY what you said is slightly wrong,I discussed the genjutsu part with zenryoku and he said that I would be able to predict the gen because of the way chakra behaves and its nature in a genjutsu.And this one of the advantages of sharingan

      @Scorps:I will reply later,need to confirm one more thing
      sharingan can see if someone is in genjutsu AFTER they are affected by it because they can see irregular chakra flow. However, the sharingan cant determine the nature of someones chakra by sight alone. Bottom line, you should have no way of knowing what the opponents chakra is being used for.


      Scorps, I dont think time frame was broken because you made your seals before he responded to it by pulling out the kunai.
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Quote Originally Posted by Scary Yamato View Post
      sharingan can see if someone is in genjutsu AFTER they are affected by it because they can see irregular chakra flow. However, the sharingan cant determine the nature of someones chakra by sight alone. Bottom line, you should have no way of knowing what the opponents chakra is being used for.


      Scorps, I dont think time frame was broken because you made your seals before he responded to it by pulling out the kunai.
      What throws me off the bat is the description. Its like he had ample time to take a kunai and react to the gen before its casted which i assumed he was reacting to something that didn't happen yet as the genjutsu with one hand seal and this gen in particular wouldn't leave time for him to react in between.

      Meh...Still waiting for the counter...
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      I assume I'm near the edge of the rising earth
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      Just as I look at you,I take a flash bomb and then I notice one of you is channeling chakra into the ground below and at the moment the earth under me starts to shake I prepare myself and just as it starts to rise,I do the tiger handseal with the flash bomb in b/w my index finger(not squeezing the bomb to make it explode)and makes a mud river under me allowing me to slide from the earth surface bcoz I was close to the edge(The earth won't be at a great height when i slip off it)and just as I start to slip from the earth,I toss back the flash bomb making it explode,blinding you(not me since no blinding light hits my eyes)and just after I leave the earth surface and leap into air,I do another handseal making a huge air net above you all and as soon as I make it,I set it on fire with another handseal and the net falls on you burning you to a crisp and makes the clones poof and as I make the net,I also channel chakra to my legs to cushon my land and just as I land I do another handseal making 4 clones,oga and berubo to my left,kunieda to my right and tojo infront of me.At the instant they all come into existence oga and berubo runs to my left in a high arc whereas me and kunieda run towards the right in a high arc and tojo runs straight towards you

      (Doton: Doryū Taiga) - EarthRelease: Earth Flow River
      Rank: C
      Type: Supplementary
      Range: Short
      Chakra Cost: 15
      Damage Points: N/A
      Description: After forming the needed hand seal Tiger, the user transforms the ground underneath their opponent into a river of mud that throws them off balance and away from the user. The mud created by this technique can also be used as a medium for the Earth Release:Earth Dragon Bullet technique.


      (Futon/Katon: Ketsugo gijutsu || Eanetto)-Binding art || Air net
      Type: Attack
      Rank: A
      Range: Short-Long
      Chakra Cost: 30
      Damage Points: 60
      Description:
      For this jutsu the user makes a Ram handseal and then in the air above the opponent there starts forming a fisherman's net like structure made up of pure air once its forms it quickly falls on the opponent standing below it. This net then restricts the opponents movement and also stops him from doing any raiton jutsu since the net absorbs any lightning that leaks out. By doing another Tiger handseal the user can set the net ablaze with fire reducing the opponent to ash.
      -Can be used twice per battle.
      -Requires mastery of wind and fire.
      -the net can be easily destroyed by B rank fire while its in the air. The trick is to notice its formation.



      (Kage Bunshin no Jutsu) -Shadow Clone Technique
      Rank:B
      Type:Supplementary
      Range:Short
      Chakra Cost:20
      Damage Points:N/A
      Description: The Kage Bunshin distributes the ninja's chakra evenly among the clones and creates a real copy with form and substance. The clone itself can also utilize any jutsu the original ninja knows. When the clone finally disperses, any new knowledge it has gained is passed back to the original ninja and any additional clones. Upon impact, the clone can be dispersed.


      Note:The lid would obviosly stay upon the risen earth and the kunai won't hit me .-.
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Quote Originally Posted by Igneel View Post
      I assume I'm near the edge of the rising earth
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      Just as I look at you,I take a flash bomb and then I notice one of you is channeling chakra into the ground below and at the moment the earth under me starts to shake I prepare myself and just as it starts to rise,I do the tiger handseal with the flash bomb in b/w my index finger(not squeezing the bomb to make it explode)and makes a mud river under me allowing me to slide from the earth surface bcoz I was close to the edge(The earth won't be at a great height when i slip off it)and just as I start to slip from the earth,I toss back the flash bomb making it explode,blinding you(not me since no blinding light hits my eyes)and just after I leave the earth surface and leap into air,I do another handseal making a huge air net above you all and as soon as I make it,I set it on fire with another handseal and the net falls on you burning you to a crisp and makes the clones poof and as I make the net,I also channel chakra to my legs to cushon my land and just as I land I do another handseal making 4 clones,oga and berubo to my left,kunieda to my right and tojo infront of me.At the instant they all come into existence oga and berubo runs to my left in a high arc whereas me and kunieda run towards the right in a high arc and tojo runs straight towards you

      (Doton: Doryū Taiga) - EarthRelease: Earth Flow River
      Rank: C
      Type: Supplementary
      Range: Short
      Chakra Cost: 15
      Damage Points: N/A
      Description: After forming the needed hand seal Tiger, the user transforms the ground underneath their opponent into a river of mud that throws them off balance and away from the user. The mud created by this technique can also be used as a medium for the Earth Release:Earth Dragon Bullet technique.


      (Futon/Katon: Ketsugo gijutsu || Eanetto)-Binding art || Air net
      Type: Attack
      Rank: A
      Range: Short-Long
      Chakra Cost: 30
      Damage Points: 60
      Description:
      For this jutsu the user makes a Ram handseal and then in the air above the opponent there starts forming a fisherman's net like structure made up of pure air once its forms it quickly falls on the opponent standing below it. This net then restricts the opponents movement and also stops him from doing any raiton jutsu since the net absorbs any lightning that leaks out. By doing another Tiger handseal the user can set the net ablaze with fire reducing the opponent to ash.
      -Can be used twice per battle.
      -Requires mastery of wind and fire.
      -the net can be easily destroyed by B rank fire while its in the air. The trick is to notice its formation.



      (Kage Bunshin no Jutsu) -Shadow Clone Technique
      Rank:B
      Type:Supplementary
      Range:Short
      Chakra Cost:20
      Damage Points:N/A
      Description: The Kage Bunshin distributes the ninja's chakra evenly among the clones and creates a real copy with form and substance. The clone itself can also utilize any jutsu the original ninja knows. When the clone finally disperses, any new knowledge it has gained is passed back to the original ninja and any additional clones. Upon impact, the clone can be dispersed.


      Note:The lid would obviosly stay upon the risen earth and the kunai won't hit me .-.
      *As the mud completely forms beneath you and you use it to slide off the "plateau", i make one handseal and two hands of mud grab your feet, tripping you over and making you fall tumbling down the mud. At the same time, Behind and Background run at full speed (behind to the left, background to the right) in a high arc, flanking you but still at mid range from you until they are slightly behind you. The moment they started running, Lefty does the Horse handseal and exhales a sea worth of fire in front of us directed at you as your are tumbling down. Righty does a set of quick handseals and exhales 2 big dragon shapped fire balls into the sky at the same time as Lefty did his fire. (The size of the Majestic Fire and the fact that you just tripped prevents you from seeing the dragon shapped fireballs that are done at the same time as fire majestic)*

      Doton: Doro Dekisui | Earth Release: Mud Drowning
      Rank: B
      Type: Attack
      Range: Short-Long
      Chakra Points: 25
      Damage Points: 40
      Description: With just one hand seal, and with the enemy standing on mud, the user manipulates the mud to form two hands that grab the enemy's feet, dragging him under, drowning him in the mud very quickly.
      Note: Can only be taught by Scorps
      Note2: The enemy needs to be standing on mud.


      (Katon: Goryuka no Jutsu) - Fire Style: Dragon Fireball Jutsu
      Rank: B
      Type: Offense/Supplementary
      Range: Short/Long
      Chakra Cost: 20
      Damage Points: 40
      Description: The user fires several large dragon-shaped fireballs at their opponent. It is able to alter localized weather conditions to the point of making thunder clouds when shot into the air, enabling the user to perform kirin.


      (Katon: Gōka Mekkyaku) - Fire release: Great Fire Majestic Annihilation
      Rank: S
      Type: Offensive
      Range: Short - Long
      Chakra cost: 40
      Damage points: 80
      Description: A technique where the user makes the horse hand seal and then the user kneads chakra inside the body is converted into fire, and then expelled from the mouth in a massive wall of intense flames, which covers an expansive range in both vertical and horizontal dimensions, making it extremely difficult to avoid.



      Note: The flashbomb doesn't work as i closed my normal eye and i'm using the byakugan that is covered by an Eye patch howver, it doesnt matter much as This set of moves means you need to defend against the fire before using your net jutsu and the clones and interrupts your move after you do your first jutsu.
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      Igneel is on exams so he doesn't have time to reply. So, the battle ends. I think its clear i won but meh...Lets say he's still alive.

      I also need to pull out of this since i'll be making a new bio to replace Ao.
       
           

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      Re: Igneel vs Scorps[WAR]

      I will be back

      After the exams are over
       
           

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