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    Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    According to my last theory that was Kishi's Hokage Selection (http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...selection.html) I predicted Naruto would become the 7th Hokage because of the following:

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    -7th Chakra: Sahasrara (Crown Chakra... don't you always think Shikamaru is referring to Naruto when he talks about protecting the king?) 'thousand-petaled lotus'
    Possible Hokage: Naruto Uzumaki
    Color: Violet
    Chakra Element: none
    Chakra of pure consciousness. Its role may be envisioned somewhat similarly to that of the pituitary gland, which secretes hormones to communicate to the rest of the endocrine system and also connects to the central nervous system via the hypothalamus. The thalamus is thought to have a key role in the physical basis of consciousness. Symbolized by a lotus with one thousand petals (like his FSR strikes?), it is located at the crown of the head. It involves such issues as inner wisdom and the death of the body. Sahasrara's inner aspect deals with the release of karma, physical action with meditation (sage mode), mental action with universal consciousness and unity (sage mode again), and emotional action with "beingness"-the state or fact of existing; a point of view gradually coming into being (eventually becoming Hokage?)
    In the West, it has been noted by many occultists that Sahasrara expresses a similar archetypal idea to that of Kether in the kabbalistic tree of life, which also rests at the head of the tree, and represents pure consciousness and union with God (Konoha Hidden Leaf?)
    Now... since the crown chakra is the chakra of a thousand petals as mentioned above... Kishi must have been relating the thousand petals to the thousand hands/techniques of the Senju clan since Senju means a thousand skills or a thousand hands. So in order to make it so the 7th Hokage has something to do with the number a thousand, the 7th Hokage is probably a descendant of the Senju Clan.

    Like my previous theory, I have found that Kishi took the Senju from Buddhism.
    The thousand hand statue is the embodiment of the enlightened being named Avalokiteśvara who is a bodhisattva (an enlightened being who compassionately refrains from entering nirvana in order to save others) that embodies the compassion of all Buddhas.

    One prominent Buddhist story tells of Avalokiteśvara vowing never to rest until he had freed all sentient beings from samsara (the cycle of reincarnation or rebirth). Despite strenuous effort, he realizes that still many unhappy beings were yet to be saved. After struggling to comprehend the needs of so many, his head splits into eleven pieces. Amitabha Buddha, seeing his plight, gives him eleven heads with which to hear the cries of the suffering. Upon hearing these cries and comprehending them, Avalokiteśvara attempts to reach out to all those who needed aid, but found that his two arms shattered into pieces. Once more, Amitabha comes to his aid and invests him with a thousand arms with which to aid the suffering multitudes.

    The Bao'en Temple located in northwestern Sichuan province, China has an outstanding wooden image of the thousand armed Avalokiteśvara.



    So anyways... Naruto has a lot of compassion. His actions are because of his compassion. He gets strength from his compassion. If Kishi picks Hokages in the way that I predicted, then the 7th Hokage must have something to do with the number a thousand, and most likely that means they must be a descendant of Senju, and therefore Naruto is most likely that descendant.

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakra View Post
    According to my last theory that was Kishi's Hokage Selection (http://<u><b><font color="Blue">http.../font></b></u>) I predicted Naruto would become the 7th Hokage because of the following:



    Now... since the crown chakra is the chakra of a thousand petals as mentioned above... Kishi must have been relating the thousand petals to the thousand hands/techniques of the Senju clan since Senju means a thousand skills or a thousand hands. So in order to make it so the 7th Hokage has something to do with the number a thousand, the 7th Hokage is probably a descendant of the Senju Clan.

    Like my previous theory, I have found that Kishi took the Senju from Buddhism.
    The thousand hand statue is the embodiment of the enlightened being named Avalokiteśvara who is a bodhisattva (an enlightened being who compassionately refrains from entering nirvana in order to save others) that embodies the compassion of all Buddhas.

    One prominent Buddhist story tells of Avalokiteśvara vowing never to rest until he had freed all sentient beings from samsara (the cycle of reincarnation or rebirth). Despite strenuous effort, he realizes that still many unhappy beings were yet to be saved. After struggling to comprehend the needs of so many, his head splits into eleven pieces. Amitabha Buddha, seeing his plight, gives him eleven heads with which to hear the cries of the suffering. Upon hearing these cries and comprehending them, Avalokiteśvara attempts to reach out to all those who needed aid, but found that his two arms shattered into pieces. Once more, Amitabha comes to his aid and invests him with a thousand arms with which to aid the suffering multitudes.

    The Bao'en Temple located in northwestern Sichuan province, China has an outstanding wooden image of the thousand armed Avalokiteśvara.



    So anyways... Naruto has a lot of compassion. His actions are because of his compassion. He gets strength from his compassion. If Kishi picks Hokages in the way that I predicted, then the 7th Hokage must have something to do with the number a thousand, and most likely that means they must be a descendant of Senju, and therefore Naruto is most likely that descendant.

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    i agree
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakra View Post
    According to my last theory that was Kishi's Hokage Selection (http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...selection.html) I predicted Naruto would become the 7th Hokage because of the following:



    Now... since the crown chakra is the chakra of a thousand petals as mentioned above... Kishi must have been relating the thousand petals to the thousand hands/techniques of the Senju clan since Senju means a thousand skills or a thousand hands. So in order to make it so the 7th Hokage has something to do with the number a thousand, the 7th Hokage is probably a descendant of the Senju Clan.

    Like my previous theory, I have found that Kishi took the Senju from Buddhism.
    The thousand hand statue is the embodiment of the enlightened being named Avalokiteśvara who is a bodhisattva (an enlightened being who compassionately refrains from entering nirvana in order to save others) that embodies the compassion of all Buddhas.

    One prominent Buddhist story tells of Avalokiteśvara vowing never to rest until he had freed all sentient beings from samsara (the cycle of reincarnation or rebirth). Despite bla bla bla bla

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    I AGREE BUT WHOIS THE SIXTH? kakashi? :D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

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    I AGREE BUT WHOIS THE SIXTH? kakashi? :D
    if you look at my previous theory I predict Kakashi will be the 6th Hokage because of the following :

    -6th Chakra: Ajna (Brow or 3rd Eye Chakra) meaning 'command'
    Possible Hokages: Kakashi since throughout his life he's had 3 different eyes. Gai? I doubt it but the brows? Kurenai since this chakra refers to a psychic ability and seeing with the mind's eye or someone with an eye technique. (suggestions!)
    Color: White, Indigo or Deep Blue wow the colors suggest Kakashi even more!
    Chakra Element: Mind's Eye
    Linked to the pineal gland which may inform a model of its envisioning. The pineal gland is a light sensitive gland that produces the hormone melatonin which regulates sleep (genjutsu?) and awakening (awaken the MS!). Ajna is symbolized by a lotus with two petals. Ajna's key issues involve balancing the higher & lower selves and trusting inner guidance. Ajna's inner aspect relates to the access of intuition. Emotionally, Ajna deals with clarity on an intuitive level... (Sharingan clarity )

    Residing in the chakra is the deity Ardhanarishvara a hermaphrodite form of Shiva-Shakti (both the Elders temporarily?) Ajna is said to contain Mantrika shakti- "the force or power of letters, speech, or music"
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    wow that is lot of work you put in the story...whatsoever i don't wont to put some budha religion stuff in naruto i think it will ruin it...
    i thought senju clan was shodaimes clan like uchiha clan correct me if i am wrong and all the hokages were from senju clan as it was strongest and naruto is senju for sure he is 4th hokages son...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by narutouchihakiller View Post
    wow that is lot of work you put in the story...whatsoever i don't wont to put some budha religion stuff in naruto i think it will ruin it...
    i thought senju clan was shodaimes clan like uchiha clan correct me if i am wrong and all the hokages were from senju clan as it was strongest and naruto is senju for sure he is 4th hokages son...
    you're right... shodaime was part of senju clan. I'm simply stating that Kishi was inspired by Buddhism for his concept of the Naruto manga.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakra View Post
    if you look at my previous theory I predict Kakashi will be the 6th Hokage because of the following :

    -6th Chakra: Ajna (Brow or 3rd Eye Chakra) meaning 'command'
    Possible Hokages: Kakashi since throughout his life he's had 3 different eyes. Gai? I doubt it but the brows? Kurenai since this chakra refers to a psychic ability and seeing with the mind's eye or someone with an eye technique. (suggestions!)
    Color: White, Indigo or Deep Blue wow the colors suggest Kakashi even more!
    Chakra Element: Mind's Eye
    Linked to the pineal gland which may inform a model of its envisioning. The pineal gland is a light sensitive gland that produces the hormone melatonin which regulates sleep (genjutsu?) and awakening (awaken the MS!). Ajna is symbolized by a lotus with two petals. Ajna's key issues involve balancing the higher & lower selves and trusting inner guidance. Ajna's inner aspect relates to the access of intuition. Emotionally, Ajna deals with clarity on an intuitive level... (Sharingan clarity )

    Residing in the chakra is the deity Ardhanarishvara a hermaphrodite form of Shiva-Shakti (both the Elders temporarily?) Ajna is said to contain Mantrika shakti- "the force or power of letters, speech, or music"
    i absolutely love your theories because you realize(like few others seem to) that kishi links everything in the naruto story from something from his culture. every single significant aspect has some root in a ledgend that he pulls from. the bijuu, the hokages, the yin yang(naruto and sauske), the entire story has all of the references that people do not seem to understand or accept. i love it!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakra View Post
    if you look at my previous theory I predict Kakashi will be the 6th Hokage because of the following :

    -6th Chakra: Ajna (Brow or 3rd Eye Chakra) meaning 'command'
    Possible Hokages: Kakashi since throughout his life he's had 3 different eyes. Gai? I doubt it but the brows? Kurenai since this chakra refers to a psychic ability and seeing with the mind's eye or someone with an eye technique. (suggestions!)
    Color: White, Indigo or Deep Blue wow the colors suggest Kakashi even more!
    Chakra Element: Mind's Eye
    Linked to the pineal gland which may inform a model of its envisioning. The pineal gland is a light sensitive gland that produces the hormone melatonin which regulates sleep (genjutsu?) and awakening (awaken the MS!). Ajna is symbolized by a lotus with two petals. Ajna's key issues involve balancing the higher & lower selves and trusting inner guidance. Ajna's inner aspect relates to the access of intuition. Emotionally, Ajna deals with clarity on an intuitive level... (Sharingan clarity )

    Residing in the chakra is the deity Ardhanarishvara a hermaphrodite form of Shiva-Shakti (both the Elders temporarily?) Ajna is said to contain Mantrika shakti- "the force or power of letters, speech, or music"
    don't you think that you are exaggerating a liittllleee biiit?
    i know there is this special trainings and medicine in asia,my father even insisted me to attend this chakra training thing,and i swear it sucked,the dude told me to close eyes ad picture fireball in my hand and feel the heat,feel your pulse in almost 30 points of your body...ect.sports are best way i'd say
     
         
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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by narutouchihakiller View Post
    don't you think that you are exaggerating a liittllleee biiit?
    i know there is this special trainings and medicine in asia,my father even insisted me to attend this chakra training thing,and i swear it sucked,the dude told me to close eyes ad picture fireball in my hand and feel the heat,feel your pulse in almost 30 points of your body...ect.sports are best way i'd say
    i dont think so
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

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    i dont think so
    may be i say this because i do sports whole my life i started playing basketball when i was 6 years old and now i am 17...
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by narutouchihakiller View Post
    may be i say this because i do sports whole my life i started playing basketball when i was 6 years old and now i am 17...
    i was saying i dont think i am exxagerating...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakra View Post
    you're right... shodaime was part of senju clan. I'm simply stating that Kishi was inspired by Buddhism for his concept of the Naruto manga.
    cool man! so much stuff that you think about and analyze, even for this anime...damn it if you're in my company you'd be a great analogist as well, maybe far greater than me...hehehe
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    amazing theory!! very well thought out and you have real proof to back u up. not like 90% of the theories on NB that are just people's imaginations like itachi being the key scroll frog... LOL WTF?!?! I totally agree with u on both Ur theories
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by narutouchihakiller View Post
    may be i say this because i do sports whole my life i started playing basketball when i was 6 years old and now i am 17...
    why are you relating a theory about the different chakras(which are a big part of thier belief) back to your... sporting career...? not really sure where i see the connection. he is talking about that according to the different chakras and thier order, it is logical for kakashi and then naruto to become hokages. which i agree with becuase naurto is not ready becuase he still has so much to do(following jiraiya's way of trying to get friend back frist) and i believe that kakashi is not dead and will come back stronger due to his conversation with his father. and tsunade will not be with us much longer(i have more respect for her than i once did)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

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    So anyways... Naruto has a lot of compassion. His actions are because of his compassion. He gets strength from his compassion. If Kishi picks Hokages in the way that I predicted, then the 7th Hokage must have something to do with the number a thousand, and most likely that means they must be a descendant of Senju, and therefore Naruto is most likely that descendant.

    Thoughts?
    Your original theory was good.

    Taking it in this direction... idk...

    The image and its history, sound more like the "Ninja Guardians"...
    If you can imagine... when Asuma, and his friend the Monk (Here is where your Buddhist idea comes into play), both fought the Akatsuki... and they had that special "Power from the gods" or something... and it hit Kakuzo and Hidan with Many Many punches made of chakra....
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    asuma was talking about them but are they 12 guardians ??? i think they are not related to the senju clan or are they...very intersting ..but i dont see naruto as six hokage his not just ready yet i would give shikamaru 6th position ....
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by narutouchihakiller View Post
    wow that is lot of work you put in the story...whatsoever i don't wont to put some budha religion stuff in naruto i think it will ruin it...
    i thought senju clan was shodaimes clan like uchiha clan correct me if i am wrong and all the hokages were from senju clan as it was strongest and naruto is senju for sure he is 4th hokages son...
    senjus were only first and the second hokages.the third was sarutobi and the fourth namikaze.naruto is namikaze and he has his own clan.there must be some reason why they are hidden or whiped out.there can be some relationship between kamikaze and senju or uzumaki and senju but naruto is not senju for sure!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    realy great job chakra....but I cant understand why are you connectin thousend and seven?is there any connection between them?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    I see Danzo as the 6th Hokage. Everything is going right for Danzo. Kakashi is in Critical Conditions (or dead). Tsunade is weak now. I see Naruto getting captured and then rescued by his peers, Sakura, Neji, Lee, Hinata, Kiba, Ten ten, Shino, Ino,Choji and shikamaru will be the squad leader.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by konoha s beautiful beast View Post
    realy great job chakra....but I cant understand why are you connectin thousend and seven?is there any connection between them?
    the 7th chakra is the chakra of the thousand petaled lotus. each chakra has a lotus with a specific number of petals. if u look at my first theory u can get all the details
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    i know this has been a much talked about point. but are all hokages part of senju?

    look at the last panel. all 4 hokages in the background.



    chap. 399
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by konoha s beautiful beast View Post
    senjus were only first and the second hokages.the third was sarutobi and the fourth namikaze.naruto is namikaze and he has his own clan.there must be some reason why they are hidden or whiped out.there can be some relationship between kamikaze and senju or uzumaki and senju but naruto is not senju for sure!
    Tsunade is a Senju also.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by konoha s beautiful beast View Post
    senjus were only first and the second hokages.the third was sarutobi and the fourth namikaze.naruto is namikaze and he has his own clan.there must be some reason why they are hidden or whiped out.there can be some relationship between kamikaze and senju or uzumaki and senju but naruto is not senju for sure!
    just because the last name is not Senju does not mean they are not part of the Senju clan. For instance, Tsunade Hime... she is grand daughter of the first Hokage.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by 6th hokage View Post
    i know this has been a much talked about point. but are all hokages part of senju?

    look at the last panel. all 4 hokages in the background.



    chap. 399
    VERY interesting!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto must be part of the Senju Clan

    Pretty cool theory, but the problem is that it only rely on the point that kishi will inspire himself from what u said... A little too unstable and unpredictable for me...
     
         

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