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    Re: Real Madrid Vs Barcelona [Result]

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    idk man i cant help myself and i know Barca> Real Madrid but Madrid r more consistent. Madrid pushed forawrd against Barca in the last Cup and ended up winning so if they push up more and pass more accurately like Barca do then Barca will lose.. but against Barca Madrid get under pressure fast and make bad choices and Barca counter attack and score
    As much as you tried to make sense, that post wasn't.

    Obviously, if a team pass as accurately as Barca after having done such great pressure and push-up in the early goings, it's gonna defy the logic.

    I don't think there's any team who can keep up a pressure play like Madrid did in the early goings for a whole match; and even expect them to be lucid after those debauch of energy. What's more do that against a team who keeps pass the ball for 90 minutes. It's physically over-demanding. One or two player can perhaps pull off the feat in one unique match but a whole team. Madrid's strategy can work if only they put off most of their early chances in the net. They waste too many occasions.

    Against Barca, there are 2 options.

    1. Score quickly 2 or more goals and defend for the rest of the match.
    2. Defend for the whole match and score on counter attacks.

    Don't dream about sequence where a team will come on the field. Challenge Barca on possession play, ruin Barca's possession play by pushing up and scoring goals for a whole match. It's over-demanding.

    The only way, it might (and I precise 'might) be possible if Messi and Xavi are not playing.
     
         

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    Re: Real Madrid Vs Barcelona [Result]

    Quote Originally Posted by Escorpiius View Post
    As much as you tried to make sense, that post wasn't.

    Obviously, if a team pass as accurately as Barca after having done such great pressure and push-up in the early goings, it's gonna defy the logic.

    I don't think there's any team who can keep up a pressure play like Madrid did in the early goings for a whole match; and even expect them to be lucid after those debauch of energy. What's more do that against a team who keeps pass the ball for 90 minutes. It's physically over-demanding. One or two player can perhaps pull off the feat in one unique match but a whole team. Madrid's strategy can work if only they put off most of their early chances in the net. They waste too many occasions.

    Against Barca, there are 2 options.

    1. Score quickly 2 or more goals and defend for the rest of the match.
    2. Defend for the whole match and score on counter attacks.

    Don't dream about sequence where a team will come on the field. Challenge Barca on possession play, ruin Barca's possession play by pushing up and scoring goals for a whole match. It's over-demanding.

    The only way, it might (and I precise 'might) be possible if Messi and Xavi are not playing.
    i wanna say that word but i wont so just cause Xavi owned againt Madrid doesnt mean if he is there Barca will dominate possesion... i ve seem some teams beat Barca in possesion.... and u posted twice oh and i know Barcelona deserved the win against Madrid... u cant expect Barca do dominate possession every game... and against barca there r many options..im gonna go sleep now cya
     
         
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    Re: Real Madrid Vs Barcelona [Result]

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha seeker View Post
    i wanna say that word but i wont so just cause Xavi owned againt Madrid doesnt mean if he is there Barca will dominate possesion... i ve seem some teams beat Barca in possesion.... and u posted twice oh and i know Barcelona deserved the win against Madrid... u cant expect Barca do dominate possession every game... and against barca there r many options..im gonna go sleep now cya
    There's no team in recent years who beat Barca in possession for a whole 90 minutes. I'm pretty sure of it.
    United did it for 15 minutes in both finals, Arsenal did it for 15 minutes at a point of a match and Madrid must have done the same thing perhaps (not sure) in one match for some minutes. But none in a whole match.

    Yeah, double posted. I thought I multi-quoted your post and Rei but didn't...
    Oh well, never mind. Both my reply were diverse after all. You asked about Barca's play style while Rei's talked about Pepe mostly. I wrote wallies almost each time in my Debate thread, it's not now that a double post will cause a disaster.

    As I said, they do dominate possession each time to me.
    I've been tired analyzing if there can be other options. I know there are set-pieces but these are basic tactics. I meant specific strategy against Barca. If there are really other options, then i'll be glad to hear about it.
     
         
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    Re: Real Madrid Vs Barcelona [Result]

    Quote Originally Posted by Escorpiius View Post
    There's no team in recent years who beat Barca in possession for a whole 90 minutes. I'm pretty sure of it.
    United did it for 15 minutes in both finals, Arsenal did it for 15 minutes at a point of a match and Madrid must have done the same thing perhaps (not sure) in one match for some minutes. But none in a whole match.

    Yeah, double posted. I thought I multi-quoted your post and Rei but didn't...
    Oh well, never mind. Both my reply were diverse after all. You asked about Barca's play style while Rei's talked about Pepe mostly. I wrote wallies almost each time in my Debate thread, it's not now that a double post will cause a disaster.
    wait wat about Inter Milan didnt they beat barca 3-1 and hav the same possession like 52 to 48 and so did AC Milan against Barca;; cya dude gonna go u can post though i like reading them
     
         

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    Re: Real Madrid Vs Barcelona [Result]

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    wait wat about Inter Milan didnt they beat barca 3-1 and hav the same possession like 52 to 48 and so did AC Milan against Barca;; cya dude gonna go u can post though i like reading them
    Wait, you mean that match where all Interists remain in defense? I think you should re-check your stats or bring me links as proofs. Cause by seeing the match only, you can see that Barca kept the ball for almost all the time. And Inter won 3-1 on Total Aggregate in a 2-leg match; not on one match.

    And I have the stats for AC Milan v/s Barca match. Though Milan did well and the scoreline was tight, the stats (It's 40-60; see by yourself) are still comfortably in favor of Barcelona.

    Also, continue this discussion in my Debates thread now. This thread is going haywire since it's no more on the Classico but more on Barcelona's play style and records. We should not make a mess of this thread.
     
         

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    Re: Real Madrid Vs Barcelona [Result]

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    Wait, you mean that match where all Interists remain in defense? I think you should re-check your stats or bring me links as proofs. Cause by seeing the match only, you can see that Barca kept the ball for almost all the time. And Inter won 3-1 on Total Aggregate in a 2-leg match; not on one match.

    And I have the stats for AC Milan v/s Barca match. Though Milan did well and the scoreline was tight, the stats (It's 40-60; see by yourself) are still comfortably in favor of Barcelona.

    Also, continue this discussion in my Debates thread now. This thread is going haywire since it's no more on the Classico but more on Barcelona's play style and records. We should not make a mess of this thread.
    ok then Barca deserved the win
     
         

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    Re: Real Madrid Vs Barcelona [Result]

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    Go ahead. After that, there are few who are thinking that Pepe deserves to be a football player.

    Ah yeah, found that one for you. It brings up 'Sweeet' memories.
    Very interesting. I hadn't seen the Alvaro Negredo incident. What a butcher!
     
         

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