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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    I agree with isthatnecessary.

    The ages don't match up, and I recall Jiraiya saying he never had kids. I'm sure he said this right before he left for the Rain Village.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    just a question, but why does everyone keep saying that tsunade is like 49 or 48, she is called granny for a reason guys, and to back this up, her sensei the third was ancient when he fought orochimaru, ancient!! probably around 70, which means he was probably like in his 20's when he trained jman, oro, and tsunade, which would put them in the 55-60 range now(so lets see 56-36=20! i think jman was old enough to be sleepin around by then), not sayin tsunade is minato's mother, but it is plausible to think that jman had a son that he didnt know about, or maybe he did know but, like with naruto, jman had enemies and he didnt want the going after his son, just like how the village treats the naruto-minato connection. not saying its true but i am
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    I got a lot of posts I wanna reply to, but will probably forget some.
    *First, the King of Snakes, or Madra, or whatever his name is, is dead. Chpt 363 Pg 13. Yeah, Bun could die here, following my original prediction of all 3 big summons of the leafs dying, but we haven't seen Sakura summon or ride the slug yet, so I don't know.
    *Next, I'm the one who brought up the whole Naruto's lineage thing. I don't think Tsunade's his g-ma. I think J-man's his g-pa. Tsunade's roughly 53. Chpt 149 pg 17. Add 3 years onto that. Meaning J-man's 53. By my math, if he was 18, when Minato came illegitimately, then he'd be about 36 when Minato was 18 (which I think COULD be old enought to father Naruto) which would mean when Naruto's 16, like now (right?) he'd be 52. One year to spare, no?
    *Next, I don't think Minato was a sage. Even though Minato's name was supposedly on the contract, it's illegible (maybe 'cause he's dead?), there's nothing that says you need to be a sage to work with the frogs (or sign the contract) or wear that cloak. Nothing and no one has called the 4th a sage either. We haven't seen any visualizations of him in any kind of sage mode, which since the frogs compare Naruto's rendition to Jiraiya's, you can assume he'd look even more like a frog. The frogs didn't say, "do you want to train like Minato," instead of Jiraiya, at least not where we saw. Minato WAS damn good, though, even though he wasn't a sage (imo).
    *I haven't read the Tengu theory. What is it? Where is it?
    *Something about 'Tobi.' We all know we haven't seen his left eye yet, so there's gotta be something relevant going on there. In Itachi's story, you see Madara pluck his brother's left eye... It doesn't show the right, or his brother without both (that's the weakest part of this statement, though). Start forming hypothesises (sp?) here.
    *I still think Konan will turn good or help the Leaf village or shinobi in some way.
    *I still agree Kakashi has to do something BIG before going out.
    *I'm scared to look at that "super spoiler." I don't wanna spoil it.
    *I don't really care about Naruto finding out about his lineage just yet, as long as he can/has learned more of the 4th's techniques.
    *Roclee, bad-ass signature animation.
    *Lastly, anybody think there MIGHT be SOME link between the Sage of 6 Path having 6 tadpole shaped thingys on his necklace, and the Sharingan has 6 total after combining 2 eyes?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    We all know Madara's this super strong guy, now, even though he might be just a 'shell of his former self' (I wonder why this is), but why didn't he kill ANY of the leaf ninja when he was blocking them from getting to Sasuke's fight with Itachi? Also, Zetsu was suprised by Sasuke 'winning,' and since he's Madara's right hand man (I'm assuming), maybe Madara though Itachi was gonna win... I wonder what his plan for Itachi was, if this was the case. (Nevermind that last part. Madara wasn't suprised by the outcome.)
     
         
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    Oh, and whoever had the idea of a giant bug of the Abarame clan, I applaude you. I can only imagine. Cool idea. Shino's the one that I wonder why we don't see more of. I like him... In a totally non-gay way.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    One more addition to my observations. When Itachi was explaining about Madara, he said that getting the second pair of eyes from another was only half the secret, or something along those lines... What's the other half? I haven't gotten to Madara's side of the story again, yet, so I might answer my own question when I do. Oh yeah, and the 'secret' or 'objective' to the Uchiha clan was something like to 'control the 9-tails fox demon, no?' It didn't say anything about other bijuus, did it? Kind of on the subject, but weighing in on the summoning debate some of you were having. I think it was stated that Madara was behind the 9-tails' attack. I'm not sure exactly why, but I think he summoned it. I don't think this follows the rules of the animals, though.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    Observation: In Madara's story, he 'opposed' the 1st. In that frame, you see the fox starting to be restrained by the 1st's forest jutsu. I don't know where I'm going with this, something seems relevant. I'm just giving some of you all a refresher, just in case you don't have the time to go back and re-read the manga for yourself. (added on following with 'edit')Madara also says, "The Uchiha's powers are the ONLY thing that can CONTROL the kyuubi."
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Japhrimu View Post
    One more addition to my observations. When Itachi was explaining about Madara, he said that getting the second pair of eyes from another was only half the secret, or something along those lines... What's the other half? I haven't gotten to Madara's side of the story again, yet, so I might answer my own question when I do. Oh yeah, and the 'secret' or 'objective' to the Uchiha clan was something like to 'control the 9-tails fox demon, no?' It didn't say anything about other bijuus, did it? Kind of on the subject, but weighing in on the summoning debate some of you were having. I think it was stated that Madara was behind the 9-tails' attack. I'm not sure exactly why, but I think he summoned it. I don't think this follows the rules of the animals, though.
    Right now now, I've been sleeping. Its about as good asbeing drunk on my ability to write, so I apologize now if anything in this post is illegable or ununderstandable. If need be I will try tp deciper my own post later.
    Anywho, I will only quote your last post but I will respond to them all. Here we go!

    1. Snakes - Just because that snakes dead doesn't mean there's no other snake to take his place. Just because the older generation of Animal Summons might pass away does not mean the new generation won't surpass them. ( Trying to tie it into Narto's theme. ) What do you think, can Sauske summon snakes still?

    2. Lineage - I think most of us will put this theory in our Probable Not Probable category as I have. and wait for the manga to tell us.

    3. You are right. Theres nothing, besides the fact that right now the only ones weve seen with sage mode are frogs, so why get frogs if not to learn sageiness? Also, Im not sure how ANYONE can control Gaabunta without sage-mode. Even Jiraya couodnt control him and he's aSanin.

    4. Please don't make me say the Tengu thery. Im too tired. Theres a thread around here, or a forum, labled theories or something. I would wander around that and see if I can find it. It might be under 'The Real Purpose Of Akatsuki' or something. I only stumbled upon it do to link clicking in signatures. It might be the guy who created 'The Golden Sharingan' mockarie. That's in the trash bin. Have a look, sorry I can't be more specific.

    5. I agree, there is something significant here. This is the main foot upon which the Obito = Tobi theorisits stand on. Most people say he's not Obito because Itachi corroborated the Madara Story, but until I see the Eternal Magekenyo Sharingan, I will be skeptic.

    6. This is possible. I like Konan personally. Her outfit is 'paper' thin. Paper. Haha. Get it? ...sorry...

    6. Kakashis goes boom?

    7. Urm... hold on, lemmie read again. Super spoiler is fake. Feel free to read.

    8. It would be nice to have confirmation and peace of mind.

    9. I keep pics off to make web pages load faster on my phone so I don't know.

    10. There might be. If you think aout it, The byakugan might be a lesser form of the Rinnegan, it has a 'ring'. And if the Sharingan hasanything to say about the Rinnegan, perhaps Rinnegan complete is with tomoes. By the way, we might not even know what the Rinnegan REALLY looks like. The verson the 6 use may not be the version Nagato uses.

    11.Poor shino. I don't think hell ever get a girlfriend. Who wants bugs? ( this was supposed to be a crabs joke. )

    12. The objective of the clan has yet to be mentioned. For the 'secret' read tengu theory, but were still not 100% sure.

    13. Lucky number.

    14. Madara fought the first controlling Kyuubi. That is why the first created the jutsu to cjontrol the bijuu in the first place. Madara came back after the first was dead to attack the again when the first was gone, but failed again.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    Yodamine was def a sage, gama and pa frog said that naruto reminded him of those two, and even had there images around naruto to show the previous sages.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    Maybe this one will be clickable*
    Tengu Theory

    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...-ultimate.html
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Japhrimu View Post
    *Next, I'm the one who brought up the whole Naruto's lineage thing. I don't think Tsunade's his g-ma. I think J-man's his g-pa. Tsunade's roughly 53. Chpt 149 pg 17. Add 3 years onto that. Meaning J-man's 53. By my math, if he was 18, when Minato came illegitimately, then he'd be about 36 when Minato was 18 (which I think COULD be old enought to father Naruto) which would mean when Naruto's 16, like now (right?) he'd be 52. One year to spare, no?
    If he was 18? Minato came illegitimately? ... Factual based assumptions or not? lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Japhrimu View Post
    *Next, I don't think Minato was a sage. Even though Minato's name was supposedly on the contract, it's illegible (maybe 'cause he's dead?), there's nothing that says you need to be a sage to work with the frogs (or sign the contract) or wear that cloak. Nothing and no one has called the 4th a sage either. We haven't seen any visualizations of him in any kind of sage mode, which since the frogs compare Naruto's rendition to Jiraiya's, you can assume he'd look even more like a frog. The frogs didn't say, "do you want to train like Minato," instead of Jiraiya, at least not where we saw. Minato WAS damn good, though, even though he wasn't a sage (imo).
    I agree. But his name was certainly on the contract. No doubt about that!
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    *I haven't read the Tengu theory. What is it? Where is it?
    An extremely old, completely wild theory. It even goes so far as to invent totally new key characters...
    Quote Originally Posted by Japhrimu View Post
    *Something about 'Tobi.' We all know we haven't seen his left eye yet, so there's gotta be something relevant going on there. In Itachi's story, you see Madara pluck his brother's left eye... It doesn't show the right, or his brother without both (that's the weakest part of this statement, though). Start forming hypothesises (sp?) here.
    No plural for hypothesis, I think. It's not that we haven't seen his left eye, it's that was haven't seen his entire face. I believe that we'd be all WTF if we saw his entire face. If we saw just the pupil of his left eye, I doubt we'd learn anything worthwhile. (I think it's Salamander Hanzo's face btw )
    Quote Originally Posted by Japhrimu View Post
    *Lastly, anybody think there MIGHT be SOME link between the Sage of 6 Path having 6 tadpole shaped thingys on his necklace, and the Sharingan has 6 total after combining 2 eyes?
    Anybody? Yes, nearly everybody!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by NineTailedSage View Post
    Yodamine was def a sage, gama and pa frog said that naruto reminded him of those two, and even had there images around naruto to show the previous sages.
    It showed the previous summoners, nowhere does it say anything about Yondaime being a sage!
     
         

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    Oh, and whoever had the idea of a giant bug of the Abarame clan, I applaude you. I can only imagine. Cool idea. Shino's the one that I wonder why we don't see more of. I like him... In a totally non-gay way.
    that would be me japhrimu, and thank you for the recognition
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    Im pretty sure its real cause i saw alot more of this during the gara arc(anime). not sure where thou I thought it was fake then but it still lurks in the back of my mind from time to time
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by NineTailedSage View Post
    Im pretty sure its real cause i saw alot more of this during the gara arc(anime). not sure where thou I thought it was fake then but it still lurks in the back of my mind from time to time
    What are you reffering to?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    why? when a picture is worth a thousand words. but i think its 430 page 19. sorry cant post links yet.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    I was refering to the posible naruto spoiler being real. its not the first time i've seen it, but it was at least 2 years ago, i'm sure. just as sure as yodamine being a sage.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    #Thank you for clarifying yourself. Much appreciated.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    Xero, Im afraid I can't so readily dismiss this theory. There are many corrilations between Uchiha and tengu, and I don't think this was done on accident.

    At any rate, the Tengu Theory is just that, a theory. You see, the thing is, just because a piece or two of the theory is proven wrong, to me, doesn't mean the thery is wrong. It just means it requires rethinking and perhaps bit of reworking. However, if the core of the message hasn't been disproven, in my mind, the theory itself hasn't been disproven.

    Just like the Minato Sage theory. There are some factors that don't add up with this theory, however, there are some that do. Just because Fukusaku has never mentioned Minato doesn't mean he wasn't a sage, kind of a thing.

    So until someone in the manga says Minato was or wasn't a sage, we don't know for sure and each side of the theory, both for and against, must update to support their argument.

    This, for me, is the essence of theory creation. Update with the manga, roll with the punches, and include new information that supports your theory.

    Until the maga itself has weighed in, every theory is open and livin, even if the breath it draws this week is araspy gasp, tommorow Chiyosama may grant it life.

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    whr is da manga???
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    The Manga should come out tonight. If not then the worst scenario is next week. Hopefully the spoilers are fake because I don't like the script.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Xero View Post
    If he was 18? Minato came illegitimately? ... Factual based assumptions or not? lol
    I agree. But his name was certainly on the contract. No doubt about that!
    An extremely old, completely wild theory. It even goes so far as to invent totally new key characters...
    No plural for hypothesis, I think. It's not that we haven't seen his left eye, it's that was haven't seen his entire face. I believe that we'd be all WTF if we saw his entire face. If we saw just the pupil of his left eye, I doubt we'd learn anything worthwhile. (I think it's Salamander Hanzo's face btw ) Anybody? Yes, nearly everybody!
    I don't know how quoting you will show up, so anybody's who's lost by my replys, just follow the trail back. *Certainly, I agree. *Good story. I don't know what I can believe about it, since I'm no history buff. I can wait until it's revealed. *"Hypothesises" shows as correct on my browser spell check. *I think it's gotta be worthwhile since Kishi purposefully stayed away from showing it when he was with Sasuke and when he revealed himself to Kisame. *I didn't realize anybody realized any connection with the necklace of the Sage of 6 paths and the Sharingan. Other than you, who thought of this? I'm not calling you out. I'm just wondering why you'd say that.
     
         

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