[Discussion] That Jutsu

[Odd One]

It's something connected to Kurama. all work from Minato and Jiraiya left to Naruto is connected to his Biju's power.

[htmwall]

it might be FTG,i think that ftg requires someone who has an enourmous chakra that's why it took the three guards together to be able to use it,minato wanted a jutsu capable of countring obito's powers,which is ftg,sealing kurama in naruto is on purpose of giving him a lot of chakra to perform it,well i think he assumed that naruto will take time and train to use it,but like you see naruto didn't have any time after obtaining kurama's chakra

[shofneb]

I think that jutsu could refes to the tailed beast ball inspired by the rasengan. It was stated that the rasengan was based on the tailed beast ball. Remember how Naruto constructed a makeshift tailed beast ball by using his rasengan? He would need the nine-tail's chakra to do that. However, I also like the idea that it would have something to do with getting the other half of the nine tail's chakra out of the Death God. Kurama only being at half power right now is something that will have to be addressed and "that jutsu" would provide a means to do it.

[Floydical]

That jutsu is just referring to controlling the Kyuubi. That is the reason during training Jiraiya loosened the seal. Trying to teach Naruto to control the Kyuubi chakra. Jiraiya saying, "Don't use that Jutsu". Was just saying don't attempt to use the Kyuubi chakra. Cause at that point he couldn't control it

This.

Everything about "that jutsu" is a slight mistranslation. From discussions I have had in the past, most agree that its more-so referring to "that power" as opposed to "that jutsu".

Therefore, from all the evidence in the manga, namely when it has been mentioned and from which Jutsu's it cannot be, it is only logical to assume that "that power" is strictly referring to Naruto's control of Kurama's chakra for his own use without giving in to its will. Therefore, Naruto has been perfecting "that jutsu" this whole time by successfully going into Beast mode.

[ANewLight]

I think this fit's here:

The Origin of "That Jutsu"

"Dear brother,

During my many adventures in inventing jutsu I discovered one that is most interesting. Whenever you use it it makes your 'junk' smaller. I'm sure you're asking why I'd want to make my junk smaller & the answer is I don't. This jutsu specifically makes your junk smaller (Technically it works on whoever is the current Hokage) & if I use shadow clones I can increase the effect.

Your loving brother ~Senju Tobirama"

"Note to self make shadow clones & this jutsu forbidden, then put them in a scroll." ~ Hashirama

[superfuzzyllama]

This.

Everything about "that jutsu" is a slight mistranslation. From discussions I have had in the past, most agree that its more-so referring to "that power" as opposed to "that jutsu".

Therefore, from all the evidence in the manga, namely when it has been mentioned and from which Jutsu's it cannot be, it is only logical to assume that "that power" is strictly referring to Naruto's control of Kurama's chakra for his own use without giving in to its will. Therefore, Naruto has been perfecting "that jutsu" this whole time by successfully going into Beast mode.

Agree with this, partially any way.

When Naruto was having discussions with the toads after the Pain fight, ch. 490 specifically, all evidence seems to prove that it's in relation to controlling it. In saying this though, there is a possibility it could be something we haven't seen. I thought this for sometime but the fact we haven't seen anything mentioned about 'that jutsu' since Naruto controlled Kurama's power, means that it was just this most probably.

It could have also been the new seal which Naruto used on Kurama right after he took his power or this could be completely unrelated.

[Booty Sage1914]

They were talking about the tailed beast bomb. The rasengan is a copied tbb on a much smaller scale with tailed beast chakra mixed in. Naruto just learned to do the regular rasengan without using a clone. The rasenshuriken was just an adaptation of the rasengan.The TBB is the jinchuriki's ultimate move... If he can't do that might as well hand over the 9 tails. Why would killer bee help him with a rasengan when he can't do it. The rasenshuriken was made in naturo's attempt to stop using the Fox's chakra. Naruto doesn't have a need for the FTG, his speed is pure speed not a space time justu

[Xaviour]

You should show pics of the chapters with your post. Then we could have a better shot in deducing what it is rather then going off of "that jitsu"

[NarutoLuffy313]

This.

Everything about "that jutsu" is a slight mistranslation. From discussions I have had in the past, most agree that its more-so referring to "that power" as opposed to "that jutsu".

Therefore, from all the evidence in the manga, namely when it has been mentioned and from which Jutsu's it cannot be, it is only logical to assume that "that power" is strictly referring to Naruto's control of Kurama's chakra for his own use without giving in to its will. Therefore, Naruto has been perfecting "that jutsu" this whole time by successfully going into Beast mode.

Wrong.. It specifically said that Naruto needed to take control of the kyuubi so that he can complete the jutsu..

[Floydical]

Wrong.. It specifically said that Naruto needed to take control of the kyuubi so that he can complete the jutsu..

Exactly, Naruto needs to take control of the Kyuubi in order to properly utilize the Kyuubi's chakra......obviously. I think its clear at this point that its simply the general control of the Kyuubi's power that 'that jutsu' is referring to. I could refer you to my old thread if you want, where I was convinced by others that this is the proper answer, not the TBB or anything else.

[Booty Sage1914]

I'm pretty sure if they wanted naruto to master the kyuubi's chakra and that's it they would have been trying to help him use the kyuubi's chakra the whole time. Minato knew he would eventually control the fox, but no one would teach him to mold the chakras together to do the tbb. Jaraiya couldn't teach him that because he's not able to do it. Naruto mastering the kyuubi's chakra alone won't help him find the proper mixtures of chakras for the tbb. The transformation is one thing... But mastering the tbb is another.

[NarutoLuffy313]

Exactly, Naruto needs to take control of the Kyuubi in order to properly utilize the Kyuubi's chakra......obviously. I think its clear at this point that its simply the general control of the Kyuubi's power that 'that jutsu' is referring to. I could refer you to my old thread if you want, where I was convinced by others that this is the proper answer, not the TBB or anything else.

Sure :D
This whole thing is confusing.

[TheWillofFire]

Pretty sure it's the Bijuu Dama, an upgraded version of rasengan with kurama's chakra

[dhaoracle]

Pretty sure they were talking of the evolution of rasengan (rasenshuriken)
because Minato and J. were both trying to make it even stronger.

How could that be when he was trained by Kakashi to make the Rasenshuriken and not with Jiraiya. And to someone who said that he created it after Jiraiya's death is wrong. He created the ability to throw it and that was on his own.


Also from what I remember Jiraiya told Naruto not to use it on any Akatsuki Members so he did not use it on Nagato.

[dhaoracle]

Pretty sure it's the Bijuu Dama, an upgraded version of rasengan with kurama's chakra

How could it be that when he learned how to do that with Bee without Jiraiya, the toad, or Kakashi.

So that meas that "THAT JUTSU" is something that we have not seen yet and will blow our minds away. IMO I think that it is an upgraded Flying Thunder God Jutsu so that Naruto would be able to keep up with Obito and his Space Time Jutsu..

[★Saiya-Jin Prince]

I don't know. I really don't think it's the TBB cause how could Jariya and Minato be working on it if they have no tailed beast? Perhaps 'That jutsu' is like someone else said, his ability to go into Kurama mode but that also goes against why it's an incomplete jutsu that Jariya and the 4th were working to complete. It may be something that Kishi intended on using, but in the midst of the mess he's made with the story got swept under the rug. We may never find out

[Frikid]

well it said "naruto needs to complete that jutsu"

ït doesn't say learn that jutsu or anything like that,
if he says complete, it means that "that jutsu" is incomplete.

at that point of time, what incomplete jutsu naruto had which involved the kyuubi and a seal?
It is the Bijuu Dama.

RDS doesn't involve kyuubi, nor do FRS/RS .

And if you remember, naruto had to break a seal before getting kyuubi chakra.

well all these key points makes me think it is bijju dama.

[lion fang master]

That jutsu is just naruto been able to take 9 nine tails chakra without taking the hate that that come with it that's why the altimate uzumaki sealing jutsu was placed on naruto so would be anle to adjust to it and whe he was ready he open the gate , battle the fox and take his chakra thru the kushina love. why it was regarded has THAT jutsu was the passing the 9 tails to naruto was not planed, minato & kushina whole instruction how to completely control the fox was properly not passed down cos the died on duty and finally naruto been the jinchuuriki wasnt a village planned thing so giving the key and hoping that naruto doesnt go rouge like ala sasuke and figure out what how to take full control 9nine tails. And the kurama situation is an after + to naruto for completing "THAT" jutsu not a result u can chuck that up to itachi for telling u need people around u not do everything for everybody

[Floydical]

Sure :D
This whole thing is confusing.

Here's the link. Its an old thread, so please don't bump it. I may edit later though and bump it myself.... but a lot has been revealed since then lol. My convos with Pssukar is the primary factor in this, I think he did most of the convincing for me.

http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=187284

The bottom line is that Naruto knew exactly what Jiraya was talking about when he told him not to use 'that jutsu' early in part two. Considering Naruto's level of training back then, 'that jutsu' could only be Omada Rasengan or just the use of Kyuubi chakra in general. Considering what Naruto has done to his friends and master when giving in to the Kyuubi's will, it is almost certain that 'that jutsu' refers to Naruto giving into the Kyuubi's will and simply using its chakra.

Let me repeat, from all we have to learn, 'that jutsu' does not refer to a particular jutsu, but the general use of the Kyuubi chakra, the very thing that wounded Jiraya and knocked Sakura unconscious. If this is still at all unclear, let me know.

well it said "naruto needs to complete that jutsu"

ït doesn't say learn that jutsu or anything like that,
if he says complete, it means that "that jutsu" is incomplete.

at that point of time, what incomplete jutsu naruto had which involved the kyuubi and a seal?
It is the Bijuu Dama.

RDS doesn't involve kyuubi, nor do FRS/RS .

And if you remember, naruto had to break a seal before getting kyuubi chakra.

well all these key points makes me think it is bijju dama.

But Naruto did not know about the existence of TBB early in part two and had no way of being introduced to it back then. As I just explained, there is a 0% chance that 'that jutsu' can be TBB based on this fact alone. It can only be referring to the general use of the chakra and thus the act of giving in to the Kyuubi's will, THAT IS ALL.

[TheWillofFire]

How could it be that when he learned how to do that with Bee without Jiraiya, the toad, or Kakashi.

So that meas that "THAT JUTSU" is something that we have not seen yet and will blow our minds away. IMO I think that it is an upgraded Flying Thunder God Jutsu so that Naruto would be able to keep up with Obito and his Space Time Jutsu..

Of course he learned Bijuu Dama with Bee which was what Jiraiya, the toad, and Kakashi was all hoping for.

You are assuming he should learn with jiraiya, toad or kakashi, which I dont get why, someone had to show him, and that someone was Bee