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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by culinaryg View Post
    i wonder how madara found out his secret without killing him or how would he know he had a secret body without fighting him
    maybe madara put him into a situation where he could see being evil achieving peace isnt all bad
    I dont think that Madara wants to fight Pein because they both have their own interests on Naruto. And in the eyes of Madara, there's no point of fighting Pein, vice versa unless it's dangerous for Madara to let Pein live or Pein will ruin Madara's interest on Naruto.

    Yes, i agree with some of you who thinks that the great villain in Naruto world is Madara and he's such a strong shinobi because he's been living from the day Konoha was built (can you imagine his age? We should call him great great great great grand father) and also i agree that Naruto and Sasuke will fight Madara together in the end.

    I like Kishi's imaginations in the manga as well as the tv serial. Let's see how far his imaginations work
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    [QUOTE=Shakuntala;889619]I dont think that Madara wants to fight Pein because they both have their own interests on Naruto. And in the eyes of Madara, there's no point of fighting Pein, vice versa unless it's dangerous for Madara to let Pein live or Pein will ruin Madara's interest on Naruto.

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    i mean how would they meet no 2 badddddddasss mutha******* would just walk n agree they have the same dreams , i also asked if they never fought how ould madara have already known his secret n not control him like a lil toy(maybe madara has a secret weakness pein also knows)

    n yes i mentioned madara is 6th generation all star villian n pein is living as a god who will die lasting 1 generation with the most powerful eye (my 16th time mentioning this , wat a waste of rinnnnnnnnnneeeegan) i had such higher hopes,but he has to die somehow withouy making naruto having a too strong advantage over sasuke kishi's real love,no offence just speaking truthfully
     
         
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    [QUOTE=culinaryg;889623][QUOTE=Shakuntala;889619]I dont think that Madara wants to fight Pein because they both have their own interests on Naruto. And in the eyes of Madara, there's no point of fighting Pein, vice versa unless it's dangerous for Madara to let Pein live or Pein will ruin Madara's interest on Naruto.


    i mean how would they meet no 2 badddddddasss mutha******* would just walk n agree they have the same dreams , i also asked if they never fought how ould madara have already known his secret n not control him like a lil toy(maybe madara has a secret weakness pein also knows)

    n yes i mentioned madara is 6th generation all star villian n pein is living as a god who will die lasting 1 generation with the most powerful eye (my 16th time mentioning this , wat a waste of rinnnnnnnnnneeeegan) i had such higher hopes,but he has to die somehow withouy making naruto having a too strong advantage over sasuke kishi's real love,no offence just speaking truthfully
    haha yes..my mistake....But bad words u said...uneducated? ...
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero01 View Post
    ...Wow ok so dont you remember the jiryia vs pein fight? Where at the end Pein said something like if he knew my secret i could not have won...check it if you want. But that being said...and even what Itachi said about jiryia (if i fought him it would be a draw or worse) we know he is a Bad Ass Mother....so why would Pein give him any clues as to who he is or what he could do if there was a small chance he wouldnt win???
    may be because pein knows to read the mind and predict (not exactly) whats goin to happen, so he know by the time jiryia realizes pein would be ready to kill him.

    in the end of fight animal realm caught in the his trap, animal realm is not a fighter for close range attack, pein could have chosen some other realm, this makes sense that pein wanted jiryia to know what he is up to?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero01 View Post
    ...Wow ok so dont you remember the jiryia vs pein fight? Where at the end Pein said something like if he knew my secret i could not have won...check it if you want. But that being said...and even what Itachi said about jiryia (if i fought him it would be a draw or worse) we know he is a Bad Ass Mother....so why would Pein give him any clues as to who he is or what he could do if there was a small chance he wouldnt win???
    welcome to the forum u made a good point made me to think more thank you.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakuntala View Post
    I dont think that Madara wants to fight Pein because they both have their own interests on Naruto. And in the eyes of Madara, there's no point of fighting Pein, vice versa unless it's dangerous for Madara to let Pein live or Pein will ruin Madara's interest on Naruto.


    haha yes..my mistake....But bad words u said...uneducated? ...
    what did i do? lol id like to work on my problem . wat bad words did i use n how am i uneducated?
    i know im drunk n high everytime but i think i can come up with full sentences with grammar
    CORRECTION my glrammar was pretty bad on the last post no commas n period can make it confusing
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by tristan View Post
    my friend, im so sorry but i have to contradict your first statement, madara had the ability to control the fox thru genjutsu / hypnotism...and that was because the fox was alone...how many times does the story need to tell us that genjutsu or hypnotism doesnt work if you have a partner to wake you up...? did you remember what 8 tails said about genjutsu? please re-read the manga...

    and my answer to your question is:

    1. first and foremost madara knows his secret, (maybe the weak body that nagato has) even he has the most powerful eye technique, the user is still weak which becomes very submissive to attacks...maybe even an explosive tag would pawn his true body...

    just take note of this:

    eye technique vs eye technique = nagato wins
    physical abilities vs physical abilities = madara wins

    just how do you think nagato will hit madara in his present condition? maybe he would maybe he wouldn't right? its because madara can move freely on his own body...unlike nagato strapped in a chair, eventho he uses strong jutsus the likeability of hitting him is big, because his immobile...or maybe has poor mobility...

    yes you are strong but if you are not good at dodging even weak attacks you'll certainly fall...

    2. summoning technique relies on the body who has a blood pact with the creatures, that time it was animal realm's body who summoned the creatures, logically speaking if you knock the summoner out, the creatures would disappear as well...play magic cards :D

    overall i still agree with what you said especially the last one wherein naruto + sasuke vs madara or whoever the ultimate villain is...of course, its naruto's heroism in the end cuz he's the main character afterall...
    + vs :akatsuki: <---- by the way what happened with this leaf guy?
    I agree with you to some extent. About your points still there are few things i like to say
    1. I know very well about KB and 8 tails, i don't have to re-read. Even I know that madara used genjutsu to control the nine tails. About Nagato and Madara, i agree with you. May be Nagato is having some sickness like itachi. Even so, i think madara is stronger only due to his space/time jutsu. In addition to this, i still find it quite lame bcos we have seen Sharingan extraordinary abilities like Amaterasu, Susano, etc. But we haven't seen any extraordinary techniques from nagato. can it be shinra tensei and attract/repel technique from god realm be the rinnegan techniques Or nagato still have something up his sleeve?
    2. I totally have to disagre with this one. Is there any page where animal realm use his blood to summon animals. Remember different realms are just puppets. They are already dead and they do not have any blood. They are just being controlled by nagato chakra(one rinnegan ability i suppose). So the one who use blood to summon is nagato and not animal realm. What do you think?
    Feel free to express you ideas
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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Konoha Rokudaime View Post
    Even so, i think madara is stronger only due to his space/time jutsu.

    I wonder if Naruto will learn his father's yellow flash. That may make him capable to deal with Madara's space time jutsu.




    In addition to this, i still find it quite lame bcos we have seen Sharingan extraordinary abilities like Amaterasu, Susano, etc. But we haven't seen any extraordinary techniques from nagato. can it be shinra tensei and attract/repel technique from god realm be the rinnegan techniques Or nagato still have something up his sleeve?
    Well shinra Tensi's distructive power is still highest. Apparantly black flames were controllable- Jiraiya sealed it. Yamato was also able to fight with it when Madara threw bacl flames on Team following Sasuke.

    And pain has disposed of the whole village alone. Konan didn't do much damage. Kakashi and Tsunade are no ordinary shinobis - but they were not able to avoid the damage. I doubt if Sasuke could do that much harm, without his team.

    Pain was able to defeat Jiraiya, while Itachi coupled with Kisame thought they would be equal at the most and probably die themselves.

    And we may possibly see some more Jutsu from him yet. We will find out when he comes face to face with Naruto ( though I wonder if the game will be over for Pain be over as soon as that happens. )


    . I totally have to disagre with this one. Is there any page where animal realm use his blood to summon animals. Remember different realms are just puppets. They are already dead and they do not have any blood. They are just being controlled by nagato chakra(one rinnegan ability i suppose). So the one who use blood to summon is nagato and not animal realm. What do you think?
    Feel free to express you ideas
    Peace!!!

    I agree. Dead bodies were dead. Summoner was Nagato.( Rest is upto Kishi.)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Hero01 View Post
    ...Wow ok so dont you remember the jiryia vs pein fight? Where at the end Pein said something like if he knew my secret i could not have won...check it if you want. But that being said...and even what Itachi said about jiryia (if i fought him it would be a draw or worse) we know he is a Bad Ass Mother....so why would Pein give him any clues as to who he is or what he could do if there was a small chance he wouldnt win???
    i think itachi could beat jiraiya.but didnt because he was an ally of konoha. the spy within akatsuki. killing jiraiya was bad for konoha so he didnt kill him. same reason he didnt kill kakashi with his tsukuyomi. or take naruto as his prisonner. naruto was his target so he could protect him.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuubi sasto View Post
    i think itachi could beat jiraiya.but didnt because he was an ally of konoha. the spy within akatsuki. killing jiraiya was bad for konoha so he didnt kill him. same reason he didnt kill kakashi with his tsukuyomi. or take naruto as his prisonner. naruto was his target so he could protect him.

    I doubt that. Pain was able to defeat Jiraiya because he had got an element of surprise. Jiraiya didn't expect to find Nagato there. Six people with rinnegan at that. first only three came out. Jiraiya defeated them . When he tried to retreat, six more came( including the three he had just killed) out and all that jazz...

    With Itachi Jiraiya was more confident; remember? I don't think that a sanin of Jiraiya's experience in combat ( The third secret world war) would over estimate himself to that degree.

    I don't think Itachi was much inclined to fight with Jiraiya because what he said about a draw or worse was the truth. He didn't want to harm Konoha but he didn't think much about individuals.

    Don't get me wrong. I like Itachi very much. Still, Asuma and Kurenai both would have been toast if Kakshi hadn't intervened. Kakashi would have been dead if Tsunade would have not been there. These casualitites were just buisness for him.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    i hope pain dies as people have said before i dont want him to be changed by narutos words i just want him to die
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    that's impossible,he has killed to many people to change.plus naruto won't forgive him killing fuka and jiraya!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by cjoe7 View Post
    Naruto's Goal: Originally it was to gain respect by everyone by becoming Hokage. It has developed to using his gift of "changing others" to helping the village that way.

    Naruto, too, doesn't not want suffering. He suffered. He lost his parents and became the ridicule of an entire village.

    PREDICTION:

    Naruto will convert Negato through Konan's help. I think that after confronting Negato, Shikimaru and the others will send word back to Kohona while facing off against Konan. Meanwhile Naruto will finish Yahito-Pain using "that Jutsu". I don't think the nine tails will be coming out at this point. I think Kishi is saving that for Madara (the ultimate villian) with Naruto's gift from Itachi as the ability to control the fox.

    After defeating God-Pain, naruto will travel to the Amegakure where they'll be an ultimate showdown between Naruto and the real Nagato. Nagato will show his 3 elements (he does not posses six by himself) and a NEW power of the rinnegan.

    After coming to a massive stand-off, Konan will become at risk somehow and Naruto will sacrifice himself to save her. Nagato seeing this, will come to revisit his view of everything while having an opportunity to KILL NARUTO.

    THE END.
    You will be veeery Bad Wrong, if you meant Naruto dies by "sacrificing". This story is about Naruto, and he always wins and never dies in the story.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    P.S.
    he is too ugly to live :D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Hero01 View Post
    ...Wow ok so dont you remember the jiryia vs pein fight? Where at the end Pein said something like if he knew my secret i could not have won...check it if you want. But that being said...and even what Itachi said about jiryia (if i fought him it would be a draw or worse) we know he is a Bad Ass Mother....so why would Pein give him any clues as to who he is or what he could do if there was a small chance he wouldnt win???
    have u forgot that itachi was a good guy not on the peins side he said that so he didnt have to fight them he had plans for naruto he could probably take jariah on by himself if he wanted to
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    For chapter 437, i think that there going to catch nagato fo sho, but first naruto's going to snap out of 8 eventually and realise that pain's just a crazy mother f who suffered all is life a person who wants to get is revenge is going to use the last kagebushin that he has left back in Myobokuzan mountain for sage mode beat down yahiko
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    I am still wondering why naruto's second kagebunshin is not disappearing. Naruto himself is pretty damaged, and he looses when it happens.

    I think, the battle is not finished yet, Kishi is gonna use it in further chapters.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    naruto needs to learn "flying thunder god". imagine.......flying thunder god--->rasenshuriken
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

    Hey guys, anyone saw what happened to gamakichi???
    He came together with the other toads, or not??
     
         

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