Orochimaru vs Itachi

[USSJ Future Trunks]

since they have little feats, edo hashirama will be like super yamato (yamato with bijuu level chakra and bringer of darkness) and tobirama is like super kisame (kisame with minato's teleportation but obviously not samehada).

orochimaru has absolutely no restrictions and in his prime.
itachi has absolutely no restrictions and fully healthy.

full intel for oro
full intel on oro for itachi but manga intel on the hokages.

prep: oro has his edos out, and itachi knows hes coming.
location: an open field.
they are going for the kill.

[Itachi Namikaze]

I don't think Tobirama's ST is on Minato's level.

That being said Itachi uses a genjutsu on Oro and makes him release Edo tensei. Game over. Orochimaru has already lost to Itachi's genjutsu.

[AlexRG23]

This thread is pretty much useless, considering itachi already beat oro in the manga!

But you get an A for enthusiasm anyway

[blazekev90]

I don't think Tobirama's ST is on Minato's level.

That being said Itachi uses a genjutsu on Oro and makes him release Edo tensei. Game over. Orochimaru has already lost to Itachi's genjutsu.

wouldnt it depend on the distance between Itachi and Oro? Also, Minato seems to think the 2nd's S/T was parred to his own, at least it seems that way when mentioning it during his fight against Tobi.


Anyway, with intel I give it to Oro regardless

[USSJ Future Trunks]

I don't think Tobirama's ST is on Minato's level

why would minato bring it up at all if it wasnt? thats like naruto saying "wow tobi's genjutsu is on the level of itachi's! oh and sasuke's pretty good at it too.." its like pointless. he wouldnt have said "second lord's AND my own" if he really meant "better my own and way better than the second lord's".

That being said Itachi uses a genjutsu on Oro and makes him release Edo tensei. Game over. Orochimaru has already lost to Itachi's genjutsu.

no he just couldnt regenerate his arm and kai himself out of it. he was about to cancel it. he just was amazed he could even be caught at all. like when danzo commended sasuke for catching him. doesnt mean sasuke >>>danzo. also that was ****ing 10 ****ing years ago. do you really think oro has stayed at the same power and knowledge all this time? hes smarter than that. plus itachi knows about hydra technique. meaning hes fought against it before or at least seen it in action during his time in akatsuki.

and why would he genjutsu oro at the very start of the fight? how? with full intel, oro isnt even letting himself be visible let alone looking into itachi's eyes.

This thread is pretty much useless, considering itachi already beat oro in the manga!

but he didn't. their first fight was ****in years ago and therefore not an accurate way of telling their current powers. their second fight was oro all alone and weakened from being trapped inside sasuke (he wasnt even whole. kabuto took half his power) against itachi's susano sword which oro didnt know he had and thought he could just tank it and laugh it off like he does most physical damage.

[sVPunisher]

Yata's mirror and Totsuka sword=no edo.

[Ambriel]

Cant itachi just seal them all, not sayin it would b easy

[Allan Hoshigaki]

wouldnt it depend on the distance between Itachi and Oro? Also, Minato seems to think the 2nd's S/T was parred to his own, at least it seems that way when mentioning it during his fight against Tobi.


Anyway, with intel I give it to Oro regardless

its been proven that orochimaru jutsu loses to the sharingan every time. once he get caught in genjutsu it is over for orochimaru. itachi beat him in real naruto that kishi wrote it makes no difference what u say or believe cuz he will lose everytime

[AlexRG23]

Yea ok it was years ago, still oro doesn't have a chance against itachi's tsukoyomi. Even with full knowledge oro can't win, he might have a good chance, but itachi is healthy. Therefore he can actually fight, or use his susanoo properly.

[USSJ Future Trunks]

still oro doesn't have a chance against itachi's tsukoyomi. Even with full knowledge oro can't win,

with full knowledge he wont be looking itachi in the eye so tsukiyomi is automatically useless. unless itachi can grab hold of him and make him look him in the eye. unlikely with two hokages gunning for him and oro having an ability to phase into the ground.

its been proven that orochimaru jutsu loses to the sharingan every time

nothing just "loses" to the sharingan every time. oro just went up against uchiha prodigies who were ready for him. and he was never in his prime whenever he fought an uchiha.

once he get caught in genjutsu it is over for orochimaru.

IT..IS..FULL..INTEL! how in the hell can he be "caught" when he can just kai it away? and how can he be controlled if he knows not to look itachi in the eye?

itachi beat him in real naruto that kishi wrote it makes no difference what u say or believe cuz he will lose everytime

wrong. it does make a difference because itachi did not fight through this scenario ive set up. he only ever beat a weakened oro trying to take over someones body ie not bloodlust and trying to kill him.

Yata's mirror and Totsuka sword=no edo.

susano slowly kills you/makes you blind when you use it. if he gets one kage, i dont think oro is stupid enough to let them get close after that. itachi is too immobile. hashirama would just rain down jutsus from a distance. tobirama can just teleport around so totsuka will never land. and when itachis distracted with him, oro can attack itachi himself with a thousand snakes and manda (susanos weakness is that you can be attacked from underground and guess who can tunnel? manda.

[defg]

itachi is naturally stronger than oro but with edo tensei oro has a chance

[Hyuuga Neji 18]

Itachi will win But oro has a good chance(Edo tensei)

[Genduko]

Its already basically happened Itachi just has to point at you and your in a genjutsu , and if itachi is in his prime and healthy his MS want have as much of a draw back as it did when he was ill and weakened . Your a fan boy so you wont reason with logic , i like orochimaru but he hasnt got this 1 , Besides orochimaru cant fully control them if he is in combat they will act like they did against the 3rd but they wont really know not to look into itachis eyes for his tsukiyomi so itachi will have them , even if he doesn't use tsukiyomi he can still put the 1st and 2nd under a genjutsu and then go take out orochimaru , Itachi has got this

[Vin Thora]

no he just couldnt regenerate his arm and kai himself out of it. he was about to cancel it. he just was amazed he could even be caught at all. like when danzo commended sasuke for catching him. doesnt mean sasuke >>>danzo. also that was ****ing 10 ****ing years ago. do you really think oro has stayed at the same power and knowledge all this time? hes smarter than that. plus itachi knows about hydra technique. meaning hes fought against it before or at least seen it in action during his time in akatsuki.

Well, do you think Itachi's stayed at the same level as well? Itachi was 13/14 at the time. Orochimaru was defeated by a kid barely in his teens. Itachi has yet to go through his teens and twenties and still owns a Sannin in a matter of seconds. No way can Oro beat this guy: hes on a whole different level. If hes fully healthy, then hes likely to have much more chakra than shown in the manga as he was sick and "taking medicine to prolong his life"- Zetsu.

A healthy Itachi can hold his Susanoo for longer, and just seal everything up. His Yata Mirror makes him virtually invulnerable. Im not a fanboy, but I can tell when one character is way ahead of another. Oro's regeneration wont exactly work if hes sealed away. Against sealing techniques/weapons, Oro's immortality doesnt really make a difference.

Oro will be well aware of Itachi's plan: genjutsu, then Amaterasu/Susanoo. But the poor man has nothing in his arsenal to defend against such an overpowered (imo) jutsu. Itachi has been waaaaaaaayyy overpowered by Kishi imo. His Susanoo and Amaterasu was incredible by itself, add on Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror takes him into the Hashirama/Hiruzen/Madara level.

On top of all this, Itachi's shown to be one of the most intelligent characters so far (placing Shisui's eye in crow, activating Amaterasu against Tobi, figuring out weakness against Chibaku Tensei etc.) His intelligence will ensure his victory, with him outwitting Oro even if he cannot overpower him.

P.S To all those saying Oro wont look into Itachi's eyes, he doesnt need eyes to get someone into a genjutsu. A person disguised as Itachi used a finger to get Naruto into a genjutsu. Unless Oro can fight Itachi looking at his feet (only Might Guy can do this), he cant stop himself from getting caught in a genjutsu. Also, Oro needs to be looking up to control his Edo warriors. Oro's Edo Tensei is not at Kabuto's level, where he can control from far away, and look through Edo fighters' eyes.

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Well, do you think Itachi's stayed at the same level as well?

yes. actually he got weaker. sickness remember?

Orochimaru was defeated by a kid barely in his teens.

it was hardly a fight.

A healthy Itachi can hold his Susanoo for longer, and just seal everything up. His Yata Mirror makes him virtually invulnerable

no it doesnt. thats just bullshit hype. and countered by manda's ability to burrow under itachis feet.

Oro's regeneration wont exactly work if hes sealed away. Against sealing techniques/weapons, Oro's immortality doesnt really make a difference.

its a death match. sealing doesnt kill you and is ergo useless

But the poor man has nothing in his arsenal to defend against such an overpowered (imo) jutsu.

hashirama tobirama manda?

His intelligence will ensure his victory, with him outwitting Oro even if he cannot overpower him.

how can he outwit oro? that is virtually impossible. not even tobi kept ahead of that man.

To all those saying Oro wont look into Itachi's eyes, he doesnt need eyes to get someone into a genjutsu. A person disguised as Itachi used a finger to get Naruto into a genjutsu

and? that genjutsu isnt that strong, and oro can kai out of it, and wont be caught effectively since he has full knowledge.

Unless Oro can fight Itachi looking at his feet (only Might Guy can do this), he cant stop himself from getting caught in a genjutsu.

since when can only gai do it? and genjutsu isnt that strong. its illusions and illusions dont kill you. if itachs genjutsu was so strong, he'd have dealt with akatsuki long ago. plus you can fool it with clones and oro knows kage bunshin.

Also, Oro needs to be looking up to control his Edo warriors.

since when?

Oro's Edo Tensei is not at Kabuto's level, where he can control from far away, and look through Edo fighters' eyes.

actually it is at kabuto's level. kabuto said he perfected it but kabuto made alterations like enabling them to keep some of their personalities. kabuto ****ed himself over by trying to control too many at once

Its already basically happened Itachi just has to point at you and your in a genjutsu

and? you act like the fight ends there. oro isnt base naruto. he can break that shit. otherwise if genjutsu was that strong, itachi should never have lost that skirmish. couldnt he just trap them all?

orochimaru cant fully control them if he is in combat they will act like they did against the 3rd but they wont really know not to look into itachis eyes for his tsukiyomi

so waht if they are? tsukiyomi is instant but it seems liek 3 days to the victim. meaningless for an edo tensei zombie.

even if he doesn't use tsukiyomi he can still put the 1st and 2nd under a genjutsu and then go take out orochimaru ,

they kai out of it and stomp itachi.

[Funnyg0]

Itachi wins, but if he hadnt the sharingan he would lose..

[Joki]

Wow, really. Itachi fans taking it way too far ITT. Orochimaru w/ these 2 Upgraded Edos is way too much for him, he gets crushed here. FFS man. FFS.

[LeEvilTongue]

I don't think Tobirama's ST is on Minato's level.

That being said Itachi uses a genjutsu on Oro and makes him release Edo tensei. Game over. Orochimaru has already lost to Itachi's genjutsu.

So? Itachi lost to Kabuto in a Genjutsu battle but that didn't stop the tards saying Itachi>Kabuto.

[Memoria]

Orochimaru with Edo Tensei and full knowledge > Itachi imo.

[yuan of cruxis]

I don't think Tobirama's ST is on Minato's level.

That being said Itachi uses a genjutsu on Oro and makes him release Edo tensei. Game over. Orochimaru has already lost to Itachi's genjutsu.

lol
Yep

[yuan of cruxis]

So this battle is Hashirama, Tobirama and Orochimaru vs Itachi
3vs 1 isnt really fair
Put Madara on his team or something or Gaara

[DevonV]

Orochimaru would win considering he is still not dead.

[Unbiased]

Itachi wins. Genjutsu and releases the edo tensei.

[★T Bogard]

Orochimaru, since he is still alive, meaning Itachi didn't managed to kill him even with totsuka. This guy is immortal. He can't be killed

[IllusionRamen]

Itachi very high diff.