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    The Truth About the Kyuubi's Sealed Chakra and Naruto's "That" Jutsu

    The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chakra



    We all know that although the seals that were made by the Shinigami variation that Sarutobi used, and the Shinigami variation that Minato used.. are still the SAME jutsu.. they involve the same process... but DIFFERENT ways on how it was performed by Minato and Sarutobi, respectively. In a sense, the jutsu is a Kami Fuujin Jutsu [God Sealing Jutsu] a level of Fuujin jutsu so powerful, that it requires a GOD to perform and a sacrifice. I am pretty sure its clearly stated, that Sarutobi just about uses the same jutsu. Take a look into the scenarios... I will start with Sarutobi's...

    Sarutobi Faced off against an opposition he cannot defeat, and wanting to end the idea of having Nidaime and Shodaime ever hurt Konoha again along with Orochimaru. He uses the ultimate sealing jutsu that he knows. This jutsu, causes the user to go into the belly of the Death God and any other souls that are ingested in the process. The Nidaime and Shodaime souls were pulled out, and placed into Kage Bunshin. That being apart of his chakra now, they were both eaten in the process along with Orochimaru's arms. Sarutobi died, and had a new seal upon his body that was similar to Naruto's.


    Minato
    Faced off against an opponent, nobody could ever dream of defeating he figured of using the most powerful Fuuin jutsu he could harness. A jutsu that was developed in case this kind of scenario would happen. Instead of, the Shinigami reaching through a clone of Minato... it reached through Naruto. But, for this sealing it was a variation of the first seal. The combination of seals... the Double 4-Symbol Sealing Technique seals the Kyuubi into Naruto's system and prevents it to escape. The seal forms the 8-Trigram Hakke Sealing Style allows Naruto to tap into the Kyuubi Chakra making Naruto's body an ultimate chakra machine. However, there is a weakness with this seal as it can be weakened eventually. Its a possibility that the Kyuubi could break the seal over time, and manage to find his way back into the world.


    The Final Sealing:


    Minato used the SAME jutsu that the 3rd used against Oro, the Dead Demon Consuming Seal. The 3rd himself CONFIRMS it.


    The Kyuubi is to be killed ONE WAY, by sealing it in a newborn and that jinchuuriki (human sacrifice) dying. Now, when we say the SAME jutsu it doesnt necessarily mean that Minato and Sarutobi did the same STYLE of sealing. So the question is, HOW did the Kyuubi ended up being sealed INSIDE Naruto instead of being consumed by the Death God?


    How did Minato do it? What exactly happened ?



    Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang

    Here's how Minato did it:

    1. He summons the Death God invoking it's power

    2. The arm of the Death God reaches through Naruto's body

    3. Death God pulls the Kyuubi towards Naruto's body.



    4. Minato divides the chakra into Yin and Yang, sealing the Yin chakra inside the Death God, and the Yang chakra inside Naruto. He uses the Double 4-Symbol sealing jutsu to seal the Kyuubi inside Naruto, forming the 8-trigram Hakke sealing style, allowing some of the Kyuubi's chakra to mix with the kid's chakra.

    Minato splitted the Kyuubi chakra into Yin and Yang so that the Death God would have the 'shadow' (Yin), and Naruto would have the 'light' (Yang). He did this for two reasons: (1) to seal the Yin chakra of the Kyuubi inside the Death God's belly, leaving the Yang chakra to be sealed inside Naruto, AND (2) to leave his son and his village a powerful weapon. Minato's "that" jutsu follows the principles of Yin and Yang; since the jutsu cannot be done with both the Yin and Yang chakra of the Kyuubi sealed inside Naruto, he sealed half of it inside the Death God (Yin) and sealed the other half inside Naruto (Yang), to serve as a potential weapon.


    5. Death God pulls his arm out of Naruto, leaving a spiral symbol on Naruto's stomach, which looks exactly the same as the spiral which appeared on the Third's stomach after performing the technique



    6. Since the jutsu requires the soul of the user, the Death God consumes Minato's soul in the process. Minato's soul and the Kyuubi's yin chakra is sealed inside the belly of death, battling each other for eternity.

    7. Kyuubi is sealed and Minato dies.



    The Mystery of Minato's Death: What Really Happened

    This is the mystery surrounding Minato's death. We all know how Sarutobi did it, but didn't saw Minato do it. Since Sarutobi says Minato used the SAME technique in sealing the Kyuubi, i have came up with this detailed explanation on how he performed the Shiki Fuujin no jutsu.

    Simply said, Minato probably was FIGHTING MADARA and Naruto was being born when Kyuubi attacked. Konoha ninjas tried desperately to stand their ground, until Minato comes.

    Namikaze Minato DEFEATED Uchiha Madara


    Minato defeats Madara but Madara escaped. Minato heads out to Kyuubi, summons Gamabunta, and takes his chakra-filled ass for a ride. Now, knowing his son was soon to be born, and knowing he had no time and that he had to seal Kyuubi in a child that was just born or not born yet, he has Gamabunta or some one else take his child. He puts Kyuubi in his kid just after the cord was cut, and then places the Double 4-Symbol seal forming the 8-Trigram Hakke seal on him with the last of his life and chakra. He dies after sealing the Kyuubi, as did the woman who died through grief of her loss and the stress all at once. The baby has no name, but a swirl on his stomach. Naruto, if im not wrong, means spiral, or swirl. And theres also an ingredient in Ramen named that? Jiraiya's main character in his book is named Naruto, and before the child was born his parents agreed to name him after Jiraiya's main character in his novel. Maybe Minato liked Ramen a lot too, and in honor of Minato's will, and the things Minato loved, they named him Naruto.


    Minato's Power and His Legacy

    Now, people may get iffy about... how did Minato have that much chakra to spare... as Sarutobi didn't. Minato, we dunno how much chakra he had. However, at this point the only thing he knew with that battle is... he summoned Gamabunta. That does take an enormous amount of chakra, but that is a lot more chakra than Sarutobi had during his point he used his jutsu. I mean, Sarutobi had been battling and using up his chakra against Oro [Shuriken Kage Bunshin, Katon: Karyuu Endan (Fire Dragon Napalm), Doton: Doryuu-Heki (Mudslide Barrier), Ninpou: Kuchiyose No Jutsu] And after all that, he split his chakra into thirds. Him, and his two kage bunshin each having a third of his current chakra. And that was enough of a sacrifice, to get the souls of the Shodaime and Nidaime out with no problem.. but he did not have the power to subdue Orochimaru entirely... now, if one third of Sarutobi's chakra after all of that was enough to seal Two Kage Level individuals whom have a great deal of chakra.. and the arms of a Sannin... Think how much chakra would be needed to extract the Kyuubi? Minato himself could.. hold back the Kyuubi's power, thats a great wealth of power in itself.


    The Shiki Fuujin Jutsu, the one that both Sarutobi and Minato used is a God Sealing Jutsu. Just like how there are individuals whom have specific jutsu relating to their summons. We have seen jutsus that are involve with the summons already, I dont see why it would be far fetched to have a jutsu that is pretty much already explained. Dealing with the Shinigami extracting a soul, and sealing the soul, at the cost of the users life. How do they knew it will work? Cause they can summon that creature, they have a pact with that creature. When you have a pact with that creature, you most likely have some form of communication with them at some point whether it be spiritually or physically. Like selling your soul to the devil to get the one thing you desire, this thing being.. the sealing of the Kyuubi to create a potential tool that will be Konoha's greatest asset.
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    dont prove me wrong........
     
         

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    Madara wasnt defeated by him
    Thtas just a prediction

    Madara owns Shodiame
     
         

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    m, i think if i try to read anymor eof this my brain will go into melt down....
     
         

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    See what u do shodaime i didnt even try to read it so im OK i just clicked ont the spoiler
    Obito u will liveeeee!!!
    TOBI!: (Comes in and says is trained in C.P.R.)
     
         

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    ya dont get it at all c mon guys this is about naruto

    going by the conversationand looking back. the charka mixed with naruto's is kyuubi yang charka, yup to the tail forms the tail form the kyuubi charka is mostly yang but yin is being mixed with it. once naruto hits 4 tails the yang is pushed aside to the yin which kyuubi controls. so kyuubi at four tails takes over the body. thats why the feeling on naruto's charka is different from his other forms and his 4 tail form.
     
         

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    *gasp* tobi it's hard to brethe with you ontop of me, *cough*
     
         

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    TOBI!: sorry(blushes)

    Madara:..................
     
         

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    c mon guys this is not a chatt thread

    if you go by this it would also explain why the kyuubi charka doesnt affect naruto, but it does others. naruto was made into kyuubi yang. minato split the charka yes but that doesnt mean it was in half. yang and yin if you replace with good and evil. some things has more evil in them then good, vise versa.
    i hate to use star wars but its like how vader was evil but still has some good in him.
     
         
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    Obito:"heh*cough* thats ok TOBI! thanks for savin me
     
         

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    the 4th was the best as u can see is the only kage who would do that for is village sacrifie itself and put a kyuubi inside is son.guess what sarutobi the 3rd was ther he didnt even do no shit . sorry for my language
     
         

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    My thoughts... let me know if I'm way out there.

    Going back to what the 3rd said, "You are truly strong only if you fight to protect what you care for the most."
    With the Yin and Yang chakaras (blue and red), being in harmony require equal amounts of both... correct? If the nine-tails chakara is enormous, Naruto's chakara needs to be at an even level with it, for there to be a balance. Thus, the 3 Year training for the giant rasengan, and the "Kakashi training method" to increase Naruto's own chakara level. Fear of hurting Sakura again motivates him to control the fox. Yamato is present because when Naruto goes all out, he has no chakara to hold back the fox's. I look at the Naruto's 5-tails stage as being his limit at mixing his own chakara with the fox's.
    What if Naruto's chakara level was higher than and able to over power the nine-tails' chakara??? Would he in a sense be able to domesticate the fox?
    Naruto could then use his energy to attack, and let the fox heal him consistently during battle. (when fighting sharringan) I believe that Naruto will lose every time he fights the sharringan, unless he can fight without using the fox... at all...
     
         

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    copied and pasted!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by shodaime View Post
    The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chakra



    We all know that although the seals that were made by the Shinigami variation that Sarutobi used, and the Shinigami variation that Minato used.. are still the SAME jutsu.. they involve the same process... but DIFFERENT ways on how it was performed by Minato and Sarutobi, respectively. In a sense, the jutsu is a Kami Fuujin Jutsu [God Sealing Jutsu] a level of Fuujin jutsu so powerful, that it requires a GOD to perform and a sacrifice. I am pretty sure its clearly stated, that Sarutobi just about uses the same jutsu. Take a look into the scenarios... I will start with Sarutobi's...

    Sarutobi Faced off against an opposition he cannot defeat, and wanting to end the idea of having Nidaime and Shodaime ever hurt Konoha again along with Orochimaru. He uses the ultimate sealing jutsu that he knows. This jutsu, causes the user to go into the belly of the Death God and any other souls that are ingested in the process. The Nidaime and Shodaime souls were pulled out, and placed into Kage Bunshin. That being apart of his chakra now, they were both eaten in the process along with Orochimaru's arms. Sarutobi died, and had a new seal upon his body that was similar to Naruto's.


    Minato
    Faced off against an opponent, nobody could ever dream of defeating he figured of using the most powerful Fuuin jutsu he could harness. A jutsu that was developed in case this kind of scenario would happen. Instead of, the Shinigami reaching through a clone of Minato... it reached through Naruto. But, for this sealing it was a variation of the first seal. The combination of seals... the Double 4-Symbol Sealing Technique seals the Kyuubi into Naruto's system and prevents it to escape. The seal forms the 8-Trigram Hakke Sealing Style allows Naruto to tap into the Kyuubi Chakra making Naruto's body an ultimate chakra machine. However, there is a weakness with this seal as it can be weakened eventually. Its a possibility that the Kyuubi could break the seal over time, and manage to find his way back into the world.


    The Final Sealing:


    Minato used the SAME jutsu that the 3rd used against Oro, the Dead Demon Consuming Seal. The 3rd himself CONFIRMS it.


    The Kyuubi is to be killed ONE WAY, by sealing it in a newborn and that jinchuuriki (human sacrifice) dying. Now, when we say the SAME jutsu it doesnt necessarily mean that Minato and Sarutobi did the same STYLE of sealing. So the question is, HOW did the Kyuubi ended up being sealed INSIDE Naruto instead of being consumed by the Death God?


    How did Minato do it? What exactly happened ?



    Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang

    Here's how Minato did it:

    1. He summons the Death God invoking it's power

    2. The arm of the Death God reaches through Naruto's body

    3. Death God pulls the Kyuubi towards Naruto's body.



    4. Minato divides the chakra into Yin and Yang, sealing the Yin chakra inside the Death God, and the Yang chakra inside Naruto. He uses the Double 4-Symbol sealing jutsu to seal the Kyuubi inside Naruto, forming the 8-trigram Hakke sealing style, allowing some of the Kyuubi's chakra to mix with the kid's chakra.

    Minato splitted the Kyuubi chakra into Yin and Yang so that the Death God would have the 'shadow' (Yin), and Naruto would have the 'light' (Yang). He did this for two reasons: (1) to seal the Yin chakra of the Kyuubi inside the Death God's belly, leaving the Yang chakra to be sealed inside Naruto, AND (2) to leave his son and his village a powerful weapon. Minato's "that" jutsu follows the principles of Yin and Yang; since the jutsu cannot be done with both the Yin and Yang chakra of the Kyuubi sealed inside Naruto, he sealed half of it inside the Death God (Yin) and sealed the other half inside Naruto (Yang), to serve as a potential weapon.


    5. Death God pulls his arm out of Naruto, leaving a spiral symbol on Naruto's stomach, which looks exactly the same as the spiral which appeared on the Third's stomach after performing the technique



    6. Since the jutsu requires the soul of the user, the Death God consumes Minato's soul in the process. Minato's soul and the Kyuubi's yin chakra is sealed inside the belly of death, battling each other for eternity.

    7. Kyuubi is sealed and Minato dies.



    The Mystery of Minato's Death: What Really Happened

    This is the mystery surrounding Minato's death. We all know how Sarutobi did it, but didn't saw Minato do it. Since Sarutobi says Minato used the SAME technique in sealing the Kyuubi, i have came up with this detailed explanation on how he performed the Shiki Fuujin no jutsu.

    Simply said, Minato probably was FIGHTING MADARA and Naruto was being born when Kyuubi attacked. Konoha ninjas tried desperately to stand their ground, until Minato comes.

    Namikaze Minato DEFEATED Uchiha Madara


    Minato defeats Madara but Madara escaped. Minato heads out to Kyuubi, summons Gamabunta, and takes his chakra-filled ass for a ride. Now, knowing his son was soon to be born, and knowing he had no time and that he had to seal Kyuubi in a child that was just born or not born yet, he has Gamabunta or some one else take his child. He puts Kyuubi in his kid just after the cord was cut, and then places the Double 4-Symbol seal forming the 8-Trigram Hakke seal on him with the last of his life and chakra. He dies after sealing the Kyuubi, as did the woman who died through grief of her loss and the stress all at once. The baby has no name, but a swirl on his stomach. Naruto, if im not wrong, means spiral, or swirl. And theres also an ingredient in Ramen named that? Jiraiya's main character in his book is named Naruto, and before the child was born his parents agreed to name him after Jiraiya's main character in his novel. Maybe Minato liked Ramen a lot too, and in honor of Minato's will, and the things Minato loved, they named him Naruto.


    Minato's Power and His Legacy

    Now, people may get iffy about... how did Minato have that much chakra to spare... as Sarutobi didn't. Minato, we dunno how much chakra he had. However, at this point the only thing he knew with that battle is... he summoned Gamabunta. That does take an enormous amount of chakra, but that is a lot more chakra than Sarutobi had during his point he used his jutsu. I mean, Sarutobi had been battling and using up his chakra against Oro [Shuriken Kage Bunshin, Katon: Karyuu Endan (Fire Dragon Napalm), Doton: Doryuu-Heki (Mudslide Barrier), Ninpou: Kuchiyose No Jutsu] And after all that, he split his chakra into thirds. Him, and his two kage bunshin each having a third of his current chakra. And that was enough of a sacrifice, to get the souls of the Shodaime and Nidaime out with no problem.. but he did not have the power to subdue Orochimaru entirely... now, if one third of Sarutobi's chakra after all of that was enough to seal Two Kage Level individuals whom have a great deal of chakra.. and the arms of a Sannin... Think how much chakra would be needed to extract the Kyuubi? Minato himself could.. hold back the Kyuubi's power, thats a great wealth of power in itself.


    The Shiki Fuujin Jutsu, the one that both Sarutobi and Minato used is a God Sealing Jutsu. Just like how there are individuals whom have specific jutsu relating to their summons. We have seen jutsus that are involve with the summons already, I dont see why it would be far fetched to have a jutsu that is pretty much already explained. Dealing with the Shinigami extracting a soul, and sealing the soul, at the cost of the users life. How do they knew it will work? Cause they can summon that creature, they have a pact with that creature. When you have a pact with that creature, you most likely have some form of communication with them at some point whether it be spiritually or physically. Like selling your soul to the devil to get the one thing you desire, this thing being.. the sealing of the Kyuubi to create a potential tool that will be Konoha's greatest asset.
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    no yodaime u wrong i explain to u later
     
         

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    The 4th sealed the kyuubi's yin chakra into naruto using shiki fujin, locking it away, and also sealed the yang chakra into Naruto using two Four-Symbol Seals, allowing Naruto to gain access to the yang chakra.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by yondaime View Post
    THIS IS COPIED AND PASTED FROM THE ORIGINAL NARUTOFORUM.COM SITE!!!!! THIS IS NOT SHODAIME'S OWN PREDICTION!!!!! I WILL GET YOU THE LINK GUYS BECAUSE I AM A MEMBER AT THAT SITE!!!!!
    i knew it was too good to be true.:mad:

    another BIG give away is the grammar shodaime. UR grammar is horrible. infact all of ur long predictions arent really urs.:mad:
     
         
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    Hey, he's posting other people's predictions, so what??

    They're still valuable and relevent predictions/info that's valuable to the people who haven't seen them yet.
     
         

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    you 2 shodaime and yondaime are going to other naruto forums
    this is bad
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by BishamonSama View Post
    Hey, he's posting other people's predictions, so what??

    They're still valuable and relevent predictions/info that's valuable to the people who haven't seen them yet.
    but he should atleast say there other ppls work and not his.
     
         

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    and it makes little reclame for naruto forum so quit this crap
     
         

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    i can prove it
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by shodaime View Post
    i can prove it
    okay do it
     
         

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    acctually is my cousin i was there when he was doing this thread he did it
     
         

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    those guys from naruto forum copied it
     
         

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    Yeah this Two Shodaime and shinbu are at home all day i bet
     
         

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