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    Re: Naruto Manga 577 Discussion and 578 Predictions

    Nice chapter but Gaara needs to show off more!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 577 Discussion and 578 Predictions

    I Think Kabuto is going to Resurrect the first Hokage and Itachi is going to say "Oh Shit" then end of that chapter
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 577 Discussion and 578 Predictions

    Kabuto can't resurrect the first hokage, second hokage, third hokage, or fourth hokage. All of them were sealed using the Death Reaper seal. Orochimaru can't be resurrected because he was sealed by Itachi using the sword of Tatsuka from his Susanoo.

    I guess it's possible that one of the snakes that fled from the battle could have had Orochimaru's soul in it. However, I don't think Kabuto would be boasting Madara as his ultimate trump card if he were able to revive Orochimaru.

    It would be funny, though, if Kabuto summons Orochimaru to fight both Sasuke and Itachi. I would enjoy watching them kill Orochimaru again.
     
         

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    epic beyond belif. i give it a 100/5...if i could that is. really hopin they switch to the Tobi VS. Naruto, B, Kakashi, and Guy battle soon. and as for Kabuto, if Itachi uses Tusukuyomi on him, then Itachi can torture him until he releases the Edo Tensei. i believe the Kage will whoop Madara and good. and as for weather or not Sasuke will be handed over to Kabuto by Itachi...i doubt it...HIGHLY doubt it.:scorps:
     
         

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    I'm sorry, but I don't think Kabuto can get taken over by Oro, Oro is dead, he is gone, his cells can't just magically take over his body and turn Kabuto into Oro. It is basically the same exact thing as Danzo having Hashirama's cells in him and him having to control his cells. If Danzo didn't control Hashi's cells, he wouldn't magically turn into Hashi and have Hashi's personality and stuff, and Hashi wouldn't be self aware. It's cells, it's not Oro himself. Even if it did take over Kabuto, it would just be like a reaction something along the lines of Danzo's arm turning into a tree. It wouldn't make Oro come back to life in Kabuto's body and be self aware and everything. That is just dumb. The only reason Oro took over Sasuke in the Itachi battle is because Oro put himself in Sasuke's body, his actual consciousness, not just his cells. Everyone should just get over it, Orochimaru is DEAD, GONE FOREVER. Just accept it, god damn.
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    Ok. Answer this question, then I'll accept that he isnt coming back.


    So... are you trying to tell me that someone that was regarded as a genius in Konoha really put his one and only hope in Sauske without having a backup plan? If he was so easily able to hide his presence in someone with fantastic occular powers like Sauske, you dont think he prepared other vessells like Kabuto as a fail-safe? Even if it wasn't done knowingly, you dont think that Oro could have also hid parts of his consciousness into kabuto? Think about this. Kabuto worships the ground he walks on, to the point of implanting his cells. Earlier in the series, Kabuto even tried to encourage Oro to find another "vessell" in case Sauske's body didnt work out, and secretly wanted to be used as his vessell.

    Call me a fan boy, its all good. It just seems hard for me to believe that of all the people's bodies that Oro experimented on, and his complex knowledge about body transfers, that he put his only hope in Sauske? Hell... from what we know he could STILL have a part of himself in Sauske! He was shown to be sealed by Itachi yes... but previously he was "killed" by Sauske, and his white snake was also "killed" by Amaretsu (forgive spelling). But with Oro's cells taking over Kabuto's body... and the Scroll that has the power to change the outcome of the war... mixed with the fact that Kabuto is STILL looking for Sauske's body to obviously continue whatever plans he and Oro had for Sauske from day one... if Lord Orochimaru has no chance of coming back to life, then why is Oro's personal medic still wanting Sauske's body, if it isn't to resurrect his master...?

    ...all the attention Kishi is currently giving to Oro's history, you think Kishi wouldn't/couldn't bring him back to the main storyline...?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theleader View Post
    Could be however I think Madara sounded like that his brother is not of this world and is gone for good since he said thats the only thing he left him.I now think that Tobi is the older son of the sage or a clone of Madara with his Memory intact.
    Does anyone else think that Tobi is a part of the 10 tails or something ..
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yondaime Namikaze View Post
    Nah tsunade hasnt showed what her new techinque does as yet , we might all be in for a surprise
    Yeah, and since they are ninja anyway, might be a bunshin ..
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by bam06005 View Post
    I really liked this chapter. I was afraid Kishi was going to focus it singularly on the Kage v Madara fight, but they threw in a bit of Dan and the all-important Kabuto confrontation. No new, surprising information but good development. Sure, Madara mentioned his brother being dead (as someone pointed out the Tobi-Izuna link), but we pretty much already knew that since the Tobi-Zetsu connection was made.

    I am not quite convinced it will be a straight-forward Itachi/Sasuke v Kabuto fight. Sasuke is too unpredictable at this point and I'm not really sure if he is going to help or interfere. I wouldn't be surprised if Suigetsu and Jugo arrived with that info scroll. Kabuto's "I'm lucky" is a bit odd considering the ease at which sharingan manipulation can be done to undo Edo Tensei. I guess we shall see what happens next week.

    Well done Tsunade (well, setting aside the whole impalement...). One of the most shocking things was Madara's comment that she is stronger than Raikage.
    I just loved Itachi's expression at the end, and Sasuke seems to have backtracked into baby brotherdom.
    I'm worried though. It doesn't really seem likely given the plot so far, that Kabuto can scrap just one of his edo tenseis without undoing the whole thing. But what if he actually can and proximity was the only problem which has now been solved.
    By the way since Kabuchimaru has in a way ventured into the same territory as Bee and the Hachibi in that he's really two in one will a genjutsu really take. Since the other part of him might be able to jack him out of it?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 577 Discussion and 578 Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by tracytracy22 View Post
    OMFG tsunade had to get ****ing stabbed. If she could survive being stabbed through the chest by orochimaru using mitonic regeneration, she might survive being stabbed this time through what appears to be an upgraded version of mitonic regeneration (if I understood correctly). Tsunade being physically stronger than raikage - I'm impressed. I was also happy to see mei do something - 2 suitons yay!
    Didn't he just mean she can hit harder? :shrug:
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watatsumi View Post
    One word: Epic


    So, What did Kabuto mean by saying that his luck has changed when Sasuke arrived at the scene?

    Does Itachi mean that it's going to be him vs. Sasuke when he says that it's much worse than he expected?

    My hunch is that Itachi will battle Sasuke, and don't ask me why......:scorps:
    Might he not have meant the changes in Kabuto suggested by his new appearance (Kabuchimaru)? Or how troublesome dispelling Edo Tensei is going to be especially after telling Naruto every jutsu has a weakness and from what Kabuto has said (not that you can actually trust him ..) there does not seem to be one. As a matter of fact the best advice seems to be - do not under any circumstances let the user get killed.
    I know he wanted Sasuke and the deal with Tobi was - after the war - not before, then you can have him.
    He also seems like he wants to screw Tobi really badly.
    But since Sasuke has shown up right on his doorstep, does that not mean he can pull the rug out from under Tobi by cancelling Edo Tensei loosing him his supposed advantage of immortal army and getting rid of Itachi all in just one move? :shrug:
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by N9NETAILSSAGENARUTO View Post
    Ps. I hope none of the kages die especially slug princess
    I'm with you on this.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 577 Discussion and 578 Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mavisthepanda View Post
    Might he not have meant the changes in Kabuto suggested by his new appearance (Kabuchimaru)? Or how troublesome dispelling Edo Tensei is going to be especially after telling Naruto every jutsu has a weakness and from what Kabuto has said (not that you can actually trust him ..) there does not seem to be one. As a matter of fact the best advice seems to be - do not under any circumstances let the user get killed.
    I know he wanted Sasuke and the deal with Tobi was - after the war - not before, then you can have him.
    He also seems like he wants to screw Tobi really badly.
    But since Sasuke has shown up right on his doorstep, does that not mean he can pull the rug out from under Tobi by cancelling Edo Tensei loosing him his supposed advantage of immortal army and getting rid of Itachi all in just one move? :shrug:
    Yes, it seems like this would be the perfect moment for Kabuto to betray Tobi, since it would mean everyone vs. tobi (since most of the zetsu clones are gone), Itachi disappears (possibly), and Sasuke is right where he wanted him.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 577 Discussion and 578 Predictions

    This is unrelated but how do you make a thread step by step please
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilwaukeegHost View Post
    I'm sorry, but I don't think Kabuto can get taken over by Oro, Oro is dead, he is gone, his cells can't just magically take over his body and turn Kabuto into Oro. It is basically the same exact thing as Danzo having Hashirama's cells in him and him having to control his cells. If Danzo didn't control Hashi's cells, he wouldn't magically turn into Hashi and have Hashi's personality and stuff, and Hashi wouldn't be self aware. It's cells, it's not Oro himself. Even if it did take over Kabuto, it would just be like a reaction something along the lines of Danzo's arm turning into a tree. It wouldn't make Oro come back to life in Kabuto's body and be self aware and everything. That is just dumb. The only reason Oro took over Sasuke in the Itachi battle is because Oro put himself in Sasuke's body, his actual consciousness, not just his cells. Everyone should just get over it, Orochimaru is DEAD, GONE FOREVER. Just accept it, god damn.




    Ok. Answer this question, then I'll accept that he isnt coming back.


    So... are you trying to tell me that someone that was regarded as a genius in Konoha really put his one and only hope in Sauske without having a backup plan? If he was so easily able to hide his presence in someone with fantastic occular powers like Sauske, you dont think he prepared other vessells like Kabuto as a fail-safe? Even if it wasn't done knowingly, you dont think that Oro could have also hid parts of his consciousness into kabuto? Think about this. Kabuto worships the ground he walks on, to the point of implanting his cells. Earlier in the series, Kabuto even tried to encourage Oro to find another "vessell" in case Sauske's body didnt work out, and secretly wanted to be used as his vessell.

    Call me a fan boy, its all good. It just seems hard for me to believe that of all the people's bodies that Oro experimented on, and his complex knowledge about body transfers, that he put his only hope in Sauske? Hell... from what we know he could STILL have a part of himself in Sauske! He was shown to be sealed by Itachi yes... but previously he was "killed" by Sauske, and his white snake was also "killed" by Amaretsu (forgive spelling). But with Oro's cells taking over Kabuto's body... and the Scroll that has the power to change the outcome of the war... mixed with the fact that Kabuto is STILL looking for Sauske's body to obviously continue whatever plans he and Oro had for Sauske from day one... if Lord Orochimaru has no chance of coming back to life, then why is Oro's personal medic still wanting Sauske's body, if it isn't to resurrect his master...?

    ...all the attention Kishi is currently giving to Oro's history, you think Kishi wouldn't/couldn't bring him back to the main storyline...?

    Well technically since Oro never died I expect to see him back in the picture sometime before the end.
    In that fight with Sasuke, he wasn't killed or anything just failed to take over Sasuke and got taken over instead. That jutsu of his is supposed to keep his mind in the world for ever, right?
    Apart from whatever Kabuto's snake tail is, isn't he just trapped in Itachi's Susanoo gourd?
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 577 Discussion and 578 Predictions

    Ah, . You know, I never actually reviewed this chapter the day it came out. I guess now, while there isn't a serious discussion going on — back and forth with constant replies, I mean — is the time to squeeze in my post without disrupting anyone's discussion with someone else. At first, I didn't have enough energy to post about this chapter when it came out on Wednesday. Thursday, Friday, and all day today, I just didn't do it, but now I will. It was a good chapter.

    The first thing that caught my attention wholeheartedly was Madara's second sentence. "Power has nothing to do with will." I suppose someone like Uchiha Madara would think like that, as it just seems like that is part of his character, but I strongly disagree. True, you have a set amount of power to being with, a base amount, but your will and determination can help to amplify that power and help it go from a small spark to a blazing fire. Through experiencing desperate times and acquiring comrades and precious people to protect, a person becomes stronger. Haku said this a very long time ago, in different words, but I believe this is what Kishi was trying to restate with Tsunade, just with very little words on her part. She seems to understand where true power and strength come from and it would seem that the will her grandfather left her, that she inherited as both his granddaughter and the Fifth Hokage, is something she has a lot of faith in, as she herself says after Madara's statement.

    The next thing I liked, although the fourth rule didn't really dazzle me like I suppose it was supposed to, were the rules Tsunade stated that she'd made for medical ninjas to follow. I thought the rules themselves were sort of noble and my favorite of the first three was, personally, the third — that medical ninjas are to be the last ones to die on a team. I feel like it references the first rule, which was that medical ninjas shall never give up on treating their teammates so long as they still have a chance of survival. It means a medical ninja will support their comrades until the end.

    Side Note: I like Madara's facial expression and last statements in the last panel on Page 2. I can't tell, really, if he's curious about the Byakugou or, because he doesn't know about it, feels unimpressed. . Perhaps a little bit of both? I think that panel gave off mixed signals.

    Tsunade, Page 3. "I'm not just a medical ninja!" No, Tsunade, I don't believe you are, either.

    I liked seeing Madara go with Katon and Mei counter with Suiton. It was a clash of the natural elements, if you will. And then A, Onoki, and Tsunade went at Madara with their own attacks. Oh, and it wasn't until Page 6 that I, really, remembered Gaara was still there. . Glad he is, though. Glad he is.

    Madara, Page 6. "They're nothing compared to you..." I feel like Madara has some deep respect for Hashirama, durr. He, obviously, only feels like the First would meet his standards.

    Page 7, first panel: I guess this means Izuna cannot be the face behind the mystery that is Tobi?

    Madara, Page 7. "Anything that can be passed down to you... is hatred." I suppose he thinks hatred never dies and it's the only thing that will survive through humanity, from one legacy to the next, forever. That was how I saw it, although I don't quite think that's right. That's the fun of having an opinion.

    Oh, dear. I just rediscovered Pages 7-8. Now, look, I got really psyched about this chapter when I first read J PREVIEW Wednesday morning when the spoilers for Naruto Chapter 577 came out. I read something about two of Tsunade's old teammates and thought, "Jiraiya?! Orochimaru?!" I was thinking that somehow, someway, Kishi was going to add the two of them in, if he had to have them doing something cheesy like watching from whatever afterlife there is. Seeing Dan and Chouji's father... I was both shocked and somewhat disappointed, I'll admit. But now, I'm thinking that I'm glad it wasn't Jiraiya and Orochimaru, regardless of who it actually ended up being that the spoilers were referring to. I do hope Orochimaru and Jiraiya somehow manage to come back and fit into the storyline one day, though. Somehow. Just a side note.

    Page 10. Oh, nope. It's Uchiha Madara, people. He won't be sealed so easily. Good effort, Gaara. Good effort. Page 11. Oh, ow. No, no, OK. So, when I first read about Tsunade getting stabbed in the spoilers I pictured the scene from Final Fantasy VII when Sephiroth kills Aerith. I pictured her being stabbed with something thin and pointy, a katana, at a spot in the center of her chest, where the attack would be concentrated and percise. Then I saw Page 11, seriously, and was just like... well... "Ow." I didn't expect her to be stabbed like that — through the stomach with something thick like that.

    I have nothing to say, really, about Page 13 or the first row of panels for Page 14.

    Now Itachi's Crow Summoning... I kind of laughed. Not only because I didn't see the point in him summoning those, aside from stalling Sasuke for, like, five seconds, but also because of what he said as he sent the crows for Sasuke. It just seemed like a big brother line and I must admit I loved it.

    Page 16. So... Even if someone sends Kabuto's weird ass to his grave, the jutsu won't end, eh? He has to release it... Well, well. I wonder what Kishi is planning? What will Itachi do? How could Sasuke look so "Whoa!" in the background of the last panel, just as a shadow? Well, he's not so great there, because he is just a shadow, but we all know that we're glad Kishi put him in the background like that, somewhere deep in our hearts. But Itachi...

    Itachi, Page 16. "Geez..." Is that just a translation deal or has Itachi gotten a little more laid back? I didn't know that word was in the vocabulary of the Uchiha, except maybe Sasuke during his genin days. Hmm.. Well then! I like a Uchiha Itachi that says "Geez..." every once and a while. Just let that be the only new word Kishi introduces into his vocabulary, please and thank you.

    So, overall... I really liked this chapter. Sure, not enough to be so motivated as to review it right away, but... well... that doesn't mean anything! Hee~ No, but really. And as for the next chapter, Chapter 578, which I am very much looking forward to... I don't have any specific predictions, as I never do, but I think we'll either be staying with Kabuto or going back to Naruto's fight. I'm not sure which of those, but I don't think we'll get much of, if any, of the Kage fight next chapter. That's only a thought of mine, though.

    Some quotes I liked from this chapter — may have been mentioned above:

    "One can become stronger by inheriting the will of the deceased!" Tsunade, Page 1.

    "Those are the rules I made for my students." Tsunade, Page 1.

    "Byakugou...? Never heard of it..." Madara, Page 2.

    "Hashirama... I don't know what exactly you have left them... but look at them! They're nothing compared to you..." Madara, Page 6.

    "After my brother died, he only left me his eyes and their power." Madara, Page 7.

    "Tsunade is Hokage...?!" Dan, Page 8.

    "You're a dead man... so don't spread the hatred anymore." Tsunade, Page 9.

    "I'm afraid nobody but the deceased First Hokage... can defeat Madara." Dan, Page 13.

    "...You stay here." Itachi, Page 14.

    "The jutsu can never be stopped if I'm killed." Kabuto, Page 16.

    "...It turns out to be much worse than I expected." Itachi, Page 16.

    My Rating for Naruto Chapter 577: 5/5. Kukapow.
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by alakai200 View Post
    Very cool chapter, hopefully her mitotic regeneration can help her out, really interesting to see how many people want her to die, I think she makes a great Hokage. Also, impressed with Itachi and his will of fire, to bad he didn't live long or be allowed the opportunity to be the Hokage himself.
    Or to reproduce .. complete waste if you ask me .. :scorps:
    At least Minato managed to ..
     
         

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    Mmmmm. Such a good chapter. There are two possibilities for who the shadow could be. Its probably Sasuke but this anime is definitely unpredictable in many ways, so it could also be Izuna Uchiha who looks ridiculously alike to Sasuke. If it ends up being Izuna, its either one of Kabuto's summons and he's dead, or he was alive all of this time and I have NO idea what he'll do next. Its possible that if its Izuna we would have a 2 on 2 when Sasuke arrived, perhaps with Izuna and Sasuke trying to kill Kabuto to preserve Itachi and Madera. idk. Izuna is unlikely but worth mentioning.

    If its Sasuke, I think he will try to kill Kabuto in order to preserve the jutsu and keep Itachi "alive." There will be some dialogue as Itachi defends Kabuto and he'll end up saying something predictable like "I will protect the leaf village no matter what, even if I have to kill you." Maybe even throw in a "thats my ninja way" to make him think of Naruto. That will be Sasuke's turning point and they'll team up and overcome Kabuto/the jutsu. I think its clear that Itachi will somehow have to sacrifice himself to make all of this work, and Sasuke will go off and eventually encounter Naruto/Tobi's fight.

    Tsunade is not dead. I think that's very clear. I think she WILL die in this fight, but I believe she has a reason to have been hit by that attack. Dan or w/e her husband's name is might play a big role in the fight at some point, since they've had a few scenes with him.

    Naruto will obviously win his fight eventually. Not sure how Sasuke will be involved though. I think its obvious he will be. I am almost certain that by the end of the show Sasuke will have turned again, but I'm not sure how it will be done, and I think he'll end up dying. We may get a classic darth vadar sacrifice to save Naruto and Konoha. I think this is the last or second to last arc, so its coming soon.

    I also don't think we've seen the end of Black Zetsu. EVERYONE wants to know whats up with Zetsu cuz he's so weird. It would be very disappointing if we didn't get to see him fight. He wasn't dead when we last saw him, he was just unable to move.

    idk those are my predictions. tell me what you think
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 577 Discussion and 578 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Dimetri View Post
    So what if she can regenrate? That doesn't mean the ***** is immortal. I'm sure that if madara had stabbed in the heart she wouldn't have the time to heal that wound with the sword still lodged in her!! Better yet, i'm sure that jutsu will be ineffective if madara had simply cut her head off.

    That jutsu is so cliche its not impressive :scorps:
    Do you try to douche it out, or does that come naturally to you?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by squigles View Post
    Kabuto can't resurrect the first hokage, second hokage, third hokage, or fourth hokage. All of them were sealed using the Death Reaper seal. Orochimaru can't be resurrected because he was sealed by Itachi using the sword of Tatsuka from his Susanoo.

    I guess it's possible that one of the snakes that fled from the battle could have had Orochimaru's soul in it. However, I don't think Kabuto would be boasting Madara as his ultimate trump card if he were able to revive Orochimaru.

    It would be funny, though, if Kabuto summons Orochimaru to fight both Sasuke and Itachi. I would enjoy watching them kill Orochimaru again.
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    Re: Naruto Manga 577 Discussion and 578 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by mytime2shine69 View Post
    and does everyone seem to forget that the rikage uses lightning for his speed and power were as tsunade uses pin point charkra control like sakura boring lol. was good to see her finally do something after gettin bum raped in the pain saga(epic fail).

    so the first was real tough huh i want to see some flash backs to see him fight we know sweet fa about him really apart from people telling legends.
    Okay hold on there, Tsunade was not bum raped, She freaking held off and repelled an attack from one of the strongest villains in Naruto. You have to be 1) A troll or 2) You must have overlooked the fact that if not for her healing, There would be nothing left. She went through almost a whole day and was able to keep major ninjas and fighters afloat. You know if your going to say she epic failed, why don't you go back to the time when Garaa got his bum torn a new one in a few moments to Deidara, who is a joke in terms of power when compared to pain. Also Garaa was still a Jinchurikki at the time.
     
         

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