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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by bam06005 View Post
    Just to clarify - Kabuto (Oro) wants Sasuke for the Uchiha DNA, correct? There's gotta be more to it but I'm pretty confident that's the basic reason. The translation read "compensation" so that could be a number of things really. Maybe the scroll Suigetsu found has more details on Sasuke specifically. Anyway, other predictions have said it was purely out of avenging Orochimaru's death but I think it's more complicated than that...Orochimaru was a crafty mofo.
    Here is the answer to my own question. Found this rereading manga since the start of the war. Amazing how much people argue about on here and all the theories can be answered by reading back. But certainly the story is chopped up from weekly installments, easy to forget details. Anyway, yeah it's all about the So6P like someone else mentioned.

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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    People appear to have selective memory.. Itachi sealed Oro with the Totsuka sword.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyoga View Post
    Tobi makes a quick attack and takes BEE then says he will leave Naruto for now and decides to retreat to reassess his plan.
    If you are talking about those spirit weapons the gold and silver brothers were using and that pot they got trapped in, I had a nasty feeling Naruto and Bee would be screwed the second I saw them. :sy: Bee with his yay! and Naruto with his dattebayo - or even da, datte, datte ba, tte ba, or even yo. Instant KO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyoga View Post
    Sasuke and itachi vs Kabuto: They start fighting and its an awesome fight but even as powerful as Kabuto is he is over whelmed by the Uchiha brothers
    He wasn't at least not in the "big guns blazing - BOOM" sense. He certainly seemed more like an actually ninja than the rest (too showy). Didn't seem to have much chakra, but he was clearly very clever, very skilled, very talented and highly dangerous to approach. Also smart enough to not take on Kakashi when he didn't have to since he had a sharingan. (Also an earth element user, they seem to be really dangerous in stealth mode. Wonder how that will work against a sharingan.) I suppose he never thought he'd have to take on the infamous Itachi let alone one that can't die. But since he's smart he probably has some really nasty technique up his sleeves. If he can't be killed since he'd regenerate then perhaps something that traps and does persistent damage ... or a sealing technique like the other shinobi were utilising.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hyoga View Post
    Kabuto is killed but at the same time Itachi is killed sacrificing his life once more to protect his brother and the future. But not before telling sasuke something very important to him that will change Sasuke for ever. As Madara moves to finish sasuke, Sasuke's new EMS skill reveals it self and he is teleported away and is saved by this skill. He teleports to an orochimaru Hideout in the area and meets with his team and that Specific scroll.
    Sasuke Gains the power in that scroll its probably activates some sort of power probably the rinnegan.
    How would that work?! :shrug: If Kabuto dies then Itachi and Madara would just be stuck there. What brotherly self sacrifice? Itachi is dead and an Edo Tensei. True he may need to absorb some would-be fatal blows for his very young and very much alive brother but he won't die. It may give Kabuto the opportunity to seal him if that's his strategy especially if he does recall Madara from the kage fight.
    According to the information provided so far, it seems Tobi wants Naruto and Sasuke to have a knock-down, drag-out fight because a seriously pressing life and death battle is what appears to cause EMS to upgrade itself into rinnegan (I think that's what happened with the real Madara - still didn't save him). Besides Tobi doesn't want Sasuke dead - neither would Madara (especially after as you speculate Kabuto bites it) if the two are in league with each other.
    Itachi wouldn't have anything to say that could do so much as make someone's toe twitch in such a brief time span and under such circumstances.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hyoga View Post
    Ending Fight Sasuke goes to talk to Naruto and tells him he will defeat tobi and madara because he promised it to Itachi, but as soon as they defeat them he will fight Naruto like he promise. Naruto Decides he will help him and fight him.
    The idea of Sasuke trying to take on Edo Tensei Madara and Tobi (didn't you just say he ran away from him?) is just so ... :flaw:
    The Edo Tensei corps don't seem to have a problem with running out of chakra and Tobi doesn't look like he would die even if was killed. Sasuke doesn't fall into either of these categories.
    What exactly would be the point of Sasuke and Naruto fighting to the death after everything you see happening?


    Quote Originally Posted by Hyoga View Post
    Thats as far as i can see. Maybe Kabuto doesnt die but it seems to me that in the final battle Sasuke and Naruto will join forces to defeat Tobi and Madara. Sasuke will probably sacrifice his life in the end to defeat the Evil..In that way redeem himself and his clan and become a hero on konoha like Itachi always wanted naruto will become inturn the Hokage and Join all the villages in peace...THE END
    Well it looks like everyone is set to join in that 'final battle', really .. I see any ending in which Sasuke goes the redemption through death as a cheap ending. Quite frankly, considering the many different themes and the standard at which the story has been handled at I can't see Kishimoto-sensei doing that.
    Besides Naruto will never let Sasuke die, at the very least let him die alone. He's already said under that bridge after he killed Danzo - "Fine. You hit me with all your hatred and we can die together." Also Itachi does not want his brother dead for any reason whatsoever. (He could do that much himself, seeing as how he genjutsued himself into protecting Konoha) He wanted him to live as a hero protecting Konoha. And bringing Sasuke back to Konoha alive, without issue, to be a part of team 7 again, is arguably the theme that has (temporarily) superseded the main "become Hokage" theme. And that one should not come soon. Naruto is too immature, naive and stupid to be Hokage. I realise people his age and younger have taken higher positions than their ages would normally allow but none of them are like Naruto.
    (I think at least one theme that requires resolution for Sasuke is the idea of true strength.)


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    What do you guys think?? Maybe give me ideas of what might happen between the madaras and tobi or if they will become one again or something crazy like that. It would be like DBZ and fussions and super power type stuff haha
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    the ga yyy brother dont got a chace kabuto will eat then is time for kishi to show the way of kabuto....... sorry for uchiha fan sasuke will be capture againd
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    Good chapter.. I LOL'd when Madara said ''Would you like the clones to use susanoo?''
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Zurita210 View Post
    I can obviously see what's going on in the 3 main battles.

    Naruto and company vs Tobi: Tobi has the tailed beast so obviously he needs help, besides the fact that he just acquired the 9 tails full power and does not know how to use it and being young himself doesnt have the experience that someone like Kakashi might have. So, I can see why Bee, Kakashi and Gai would be helping.

    But to have Itachi and Sasuke team up against Kabuto, come on. Yea, like I stated before its harder to catch somone rather than to kill them. But you have Sasuke who says that the Uchia are the best shinobi, blah blah blah. Needless to say, you have two Uchia (aka: best shinobi ever) vs Kabuto.

    Then you have Madara vs 5 Kages. Yea, Madara is pretty much immortal, but you have the 5 KAGES who cant even slow him down. Like I said before, even without the 1st Hokage's power, Madara would still wreck on them.

    Which leads me to say, that the younger generations have failed to surpass the old generations. Madara has the stated multiple times, that the 1st Hokage left a weak generation... Madara states that if he could bring back the 1st, he would so that he could show him how weak the new generations are.

    PS- Tsunade is weak. I dont care if she has survived an attack my Madara. So she can regenerate, we have seen this before already, when she fought Oro along with Jiraiya. Obviously we havent seen her jutsu at this level but you would have figured that out. Besides regeneration and having super strengh, thats all, no special ninjutsu of any kind.

    But to have Itachi and Sasuke team up against Kabuto, come on.

    I agree. This is why I think Edo Madara will get summoned back to Kabuto to fight the brothers. Edo Madara will leave his Clones (with Susanoo) to rip through the Kages while he attends to more important business... his family.


    that the younger generations have failed to surpass the old generations.

    I disagree. The new Kages all defeated their precurser Kages... mostly beaten by the people they trained. With easy, might I add. Comparing them to Edo Madara though is unfair b/c he is extremely overpowered with Hashi's cells at the current moment. All of the Konoha youth have surpassed their elders and this has been shown in the war.

    no special ninjutsu of any kind

    Uh... Edo Madara already told us that the ability to heal yourself without the need of signs is very "special" and originally unique to only him... so why wouldnt you call that a special Jutsu? She will show you why she is Hokage during this war kind sir...



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    Quote Originally Posted by YoItsJo View Post
    I understand Sasuke getting a bit angry here. But what got me was what he said. "He's the same as Orochimaru... so he's also my enemy!" Since when, during their time together, was Orochimaru actually an enemy? Sasuke was studying under him... Didn't like him, sure, but enemy? I can only think he was talking about Orochimaru trying to take his body. I really don't know here.[/B]
    If that flashback before he tells Orochimaru he makes him sick was in the manga then I guess he saw Orochimaru the same way he saw Itachi before he knew the truth. But given that Orochimaru undermined him with that cursed seal, then had the sound 4 beat him up, plus his general unforgiving attitude he probably went to him with murder in mind.
    A few things get me though. Something comes off to me about Sasuke that, even though he probably didn't initially know what Orochimaru intended to do to him, by the time we get to post time-skip I have a nasty feeling the little brat intended to take over Oro for quite a while - at least was willing to try. He could also have simply escaped instead.
    He instantly tore through one hideouts ceiling with enough raw power to break through Sai's technique. And he could fly. Orochimaru in that condition could not have stopped him.


    Quote Originally Posted by YoItsJo View Post
    I like Sasuke's face when Itachi says something about talking to him later, though. You know Sasuke wants that horribly.[/B]
    LOL. He's so cute in kid brother mode I've been a consistent Sasuke fan since the beginning of the time-skip. I wasn't in part one because I didn't actually notice him. I'm not always good with taciturn characters, who don't try to sell themselves to the reader a little. (Eg. Byakuya - Bleach, can't quite get into him yet)

    Quote Originally Posted by YoItsJo View Post
    Kabuto also looks like some Orochimort hybrid on Page 15; a cross between Orochimaru and Voldemort from Harry Potter. I mean, really, does he not?[/B]
    I love that you said that. It really cracked me up.

    Quote Originally Posted by YoItsJo View Post
    Kabuto on Page 16, aside from the fact it gives me an eerie image of Orochimaru, I dislike. I'm fairly sure no one has left anyone alone. Itachi has branched himself off from everyone right now, yes, because of his mission. But you can definitely say he has allies. And Sasuke... he has Naruto out there, does he not? That's a friend; I don't care what anyone says. Hell, I'm betting you that, on the inside, for the sake of not having an emotional encumbrance, although now he kind of has Itachi. Kabuto's a fool.[/B]
    I agree. Even Oro himself commented that Kabuto had a very nasty personality. Sasuke has always had friends - he may not have been theirs, but they were certainly his.

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    My Rating for Chapter 578: 5/5.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tobirama the Wise View Post
    Just my guess ( and I'm not reading 20 pages right now) but I think that Madara's power has been split in 21..
    The original, and 20 clones. Just like naruto's Kage bunshin I think that the clones of madara also have a part of his chakra in them. That means that the 20 clones, 5 for each kage, are not that hard to beat as the original on his own..
    good theory but it only works on live ninja. Edo madara is dead and he has a ridiculous power boost now so I doubt that + only if kishi wants to contradict himself Edo madara would not finish this fight, he just has to go away and cine back another day. Maybe Naruto or sasuke could fight him but not these guys, ooniki's ultimate jutsu is useless, A's is not good enough without oonikis help, tsunade has surprised me but without her having any effective jutsu besides going she hulk all the time, no good. Then there is 5th mizukage and gaara the 2 weaklings, one defensive + countering the other(gaara) is just not at there level .
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by lion fang master View Post
    good theory but it only works on live ninja. Edo madara is dead and he has a ridiculous power boost now so I doubt that + only if kishi wants to contradict himself Edo madara would not finish this fight, he just has to go away and cine back another day. Maybe Naruto or sasuke could fight him but not these guys, ooniki's ultimate jutsu is useless, A's is not good enough without oonikis help, tsunade has surprised me but without her having any effective jutsu besides going she hulk all the time, no good. Then there is 5th mizukage and gaara the 2 weaklings, one defensive + countering the other(gaara) is just not at there level .
    mmm gaara is definitely at their level. and we haven't seen much of the mizukage. i wouldn't count them out so quickly
     
         

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    Marvelous
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    why does madara constantly complain about how the 5 kages are weaker than hashirama, when he couldn't beat him even with the 9-tails?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    ..Good actualy....Cant wait to see wat kabuto got up his sleeves....cos the bad ass guy doesnt seem to be worried wit the team up.....And hell yeah madara just show that he got big class and the five kages r just to low for him to match up wif....Cant wait for next wk .....Up kishi
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by apple pie of doom View Post
    I'm probably the only one who suspects Sasuke will kill Kabuto just so Itachi can stay.
    No, you're actually not. I said the same thing on a YouTube video reviewing that chapter! They're making a big deal out of not killing Kabuto, so I'm guessing that it'll happen, and they'll have to find another way to stop the Edo. But trying to find another way to stop it will take some time, so I suppose Kishi is trying to delay Itachi's departure.

    Either way, the Edo Tensei has to be stopped, else Madara will continue "living". I just believe that there's another way to stop it besides Kabuto. Oh well, I guess we'll find out. :D
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbird31468 View Post
    why does madara constantly complain about how the 5 kages are weaker than hashirama, when he couldn't beat him even with the 9-tails?
    I suppose he just wants the Kage's to feel weak and to mess with their emotions. Maybe he wants to give them a sense of impending doom?

    Either way, he's trying to make himself feel better by his words and actions--it's probably why he won't shut up about being weak.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbird31468 View Post
    why does madara constantly complain about how the 5 kages are weaker than hashirama, when he couldn't beat him even with the 9-tails?
    Because he is arrogant and is also trying to use it as a psychological tactic. He's baiting them into giving up but...he's failing miserably. I think his badgering will be his demise, if not Itachi's ending the jutsu.

    One comment I saw looked interesting...Sasuke killing Kabuto to keep the edo tensei Itachi around. Interesting theory.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    Cool chapter cant wait to see the battle between the uchiha brothers and kabuto :D
     
         

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    It's always nice to see Itachi having to fight other characters.
    Can't wait for the next chapter.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 578 Discussion and 579 Predictions

    Edo Madara's badgering on and on about how weak the kages are is probably just his way of taunting Hashirama. Like, "you're not around anymore and the world you left behind is no match for me."
    Madara's theme song is Time is On My Side by The Rolling Stones. What dumb luck to have been born in Hashirama's time. So he stole what powers he could and waited him out.
    Who knows...maybe Hashirama also set a contingency plan in place. Naah he just appointed his bro hokage and left it at that as far as I can tell
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    i liked it 5 stars
     
         

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