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    Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    I found this thread on another forum and wanted to share it with you all because I found it very well researched and convincing. I'm not taking credit for this, it is not my research, just sharing You can view the original thread here.

    In Naruto Chapter 403 Tears, it is revealed that Itachi gave Naruto a gift, a special power to help him in the future (with a crow in his mouth). I believe I have discovered the inspiration for that power.

    Some History:
    "The Kogarasu Maru or "Little Crow", is a unique Japanese tachi sword rumored to have been created by legendary Japanese smith Amakuni during 8th century CE."

    "The Kogarasu Maru is sometimes referred to as a Kogarasu Zukuri as the blade of the Kogarasu Maru was forged in the Kissaki Moro Ha Zukuri design. The Kogarasu Maru is unique as a bridge between the old double-edged Japanese Ken (based on the traditional Chinese straight sword) and the traditional Japanese tachi and eventual katana.

    The Kogarasu Maru "Little Crow" is the most famous of the known Kogarasu Zukuri blades and currently in the Japanese Imperial Collection. The tang of the Kogarasu Maru is not signed but the blade is believed to have been made during the either the early Heian period or late Nara period, by the famous Japanese swordsmith Amakuni, who is said to have created the first curved Japanese sword and is believed to have lived during this period.

    "There is an ancient legend that attribute this revolution in sword making to Amakuni, traditionally belived to be the maker of Kogarasumaru or ‘Little Crow’, the first curved NipponTo, now in the Imperial Household Collection. According to this legend Amakuni was the Emperor’s swordsmith. One day he saw his lord’s army returning from a battle and the Emperor ignored him instead to give the usual cheers for the good work made with the blades. Then he noticed that many soldiers had broken swords. They where chokuto or straight swords. He was so disappointed of this that he avoid to eat food and drink water for a week, studying a better way to make swords. According to the legend Inari (fox spirit), the Kami of swordsmakers, appeared in a dream to Amakuni, teaching him how to wrap a soft steel core in an harder one, and how a curved edge is more suitable to cuts and more resistant to shocks than the previous straight one. The day after Amakuni made Kogarasu Maru, the ancestor of all NihonTo."

    "Ama-kuni of Yamato, who lived about A. D. 700, was a celebrated maker. One of his blades is said to have been carried off by a crow during the reign of Kuwammu-Tenno, A. D. 782, and has since been known by the name of the Kogarasu maru * (little crow). In A. D. 940 Taira Sadamori became the possessor of this sword, which was drawn by him in the wars with Masakado, who was until lately deified at Kanda, Yeddo. "

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    These are the covers for Naruto Chapter 3 and Chapter 185 (they're the same covers). We see a "Little Crow" just over Naruto's shoulder. Also, this is the only known chapter cover(at least to my knowledge) that has ever been repeated. (notice the significance of having the image of a little crow when Kishi introduces Sasuke into the manga and when Sasuke leaves Konoha to go to Orochimaru)

    Ch. 3 & 185 cover pages:


    Then there's the cover for Naruto Chapter 11, on this chapter cover we see a crow carrying a sword in it's beak and it appears to be presenting it to Naruto:
    Ch. 11 Cover:


    all the kunais almost suggest Hiraishin (Flying Thunder God Technique)


    Notice in the backgrounds of each cover is the full moon, a clear symbol of Itachi. Naruto Chapter 142 Cover, this is a cover of Itachi with the full moon in the bottom lefthand corner. Naruto chapter 145 page 10 and page 11.

    Also, one of the sources Itachi get's his name from is the Kamaitachi. The source of the name kamaitachi is kamaetachi, which means "attacking tachi". It was later changed to the name kamaitachi as a naming pun for "sickle weasel", by Toriyama Sekien. It's also of note that the kamaitachi itself is a wind demon. The Kamaitachi also makes an appearance in the Naruto series as one of Temari's summoning techniques.

    Temari's sickle weasel summoning:


    Well, there you have it. This is what I believe Itachi gave Naruto. Itachi gave Naruto a legendary sword named the Kogarasu Maru. The sword is most likely a chakra blade, which would allow Naruto to use his wind elemental affinity along with it to cut opponents at a distance - WraithX959
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    my own additions to this theory:
    I was searching the internet for Cover Page pictures and here's what I found

    notice anything?:


    I wonder... if it really is a sword... how and when will it come to Naruto?
     
         
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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    amazing, whoever wrote this deserves their props, but how will naruto actually get the sword? will it come out of his mouth?
     
         
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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    interesting theory, the only thing which is a bit strange is that kishi seemed to have thrown that idea away for a long time (all pics are with the young naruto) and now comes back to it.
    im not completely confirmed, but its the only thing which makes sence we've heard so far. maybe a chakra blade to counter susanos special sword, because itachi said that he hopes that naruto never has to use it.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    isnt that theory
    FROm one mangan forums

    & u already said that damn i need 2 be more like u oh well



    [Theory] Kogarasu Maru: Itachi's Gift (Part 2) - OneManga.com Forums

    [Theory] Kogarasu Maru: Itachi's Gift (Part 2) - 10-15-2008, 08:58 AM
    The opening post from the original thread.

    ORIGINALLY POSTED BY WRAITHX959

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    Originally Posted by WraithX959 View Post
    In Naruto Chapter 403 Tears, it is revealed that Itachi gave Naruto a gift, a special power to help him in the future. I believe I have discovered the inspiration for that power.

    (Note: Items marked in Red are either links or items of importance)


    "The Kogarasu Maru or "Little Crow", is a unique Japanese tachi sword rumored to have been created by legendary Japanese smith Amakuni during 8th century CE."

    "The Kogarasu Maru is sometimes referred to as a Kogarasu Zukuri as the blade of the Kogarasu Maru was forged in the Kissaki Moro Ha Zukuri design. The Kogarasu Maru is unique as a bridge between the old double-edged Japanese Ken (based on the traditional Chinese straight sword) and the traditional Japanese tachi and eventual katana.

    The Kogarasu Maru was designed with a curved double-edged blade approximately 62.8 cm long. One edge of the blade is sharped in normal tachi fashion, but as the edge comes to a point the blade continues in the reverse direction back towards the hilt of the sword, similar to a European sword or a Japanese yari spear, but stopping midway. A single bo-hi style groove runs down both sides of the blade to the hilt. The forging process yielded a sugaha "straight" style temper line on both sides of the blade.

    The Kogarasu Maru "Little Crow" is the most famous of the known Kogarasu Zukuri blades and currently in the Japanese Imperial Collection. The tang of the Kogarasu Maru is not signed but the blade is believed to have been made during the either the early Heian period or late Nara period, by the famous Japanese swordsmith Amakuni, who is said to have created the first curved Japanese sword and is believed to have lived during this period. Two other Kogarasu Zukuri blades exist from this era, but many other blades of this type have been created throughout Japanese history."

    "There is an ancient legend that attribute this revolution in sword making to Amakuni, traditionally belived to be the maker of Kogarasumaru or ‘Little Crow’, the first curved NipponTo, now in the Imperial Household Collection. According to this legend Amakuni was the Emperor’s swordsmith. One day he saw his lord’s army returning from a battle and the Emperor ignored him instead to give the usual cheers for the good work made with the blades. Then he noticed that many soldiers had broken swords. They where chokuto or straight swords. He was so disappointed of this that he avoid to eat food and drink water for a week, studying a better way to make swords. According to the legend Inari, the Kami of swordsmakers, appeared in a dream to Amakuni, teaching him how to wrap a soft steel core in an harder one, and how a curved edge is more suitable to cuts and more resistant to shocks than the previous straight one. The day after Amakuni made Kogarasu Maru, the ancestor of all NihonTo."

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    "Ama-kuni of Yamato, who lived about A. D. 700, was a celebrated maker. One of his blades is said to have been carried off by a crow during the reign of Kuwammu-Tenno, A. D. 782, and has since been known by the name of the Kogarasu maru * (little crow). In A. D. 940 Taira Sadamori became the possessor of this sword, which was drawn by him in the wars with Masakado, who was until lately deified at Kanda, Yeddo. "

    link

    These are the covers for Naruto Chapter 3 and Chapter 185. We see a "Little Crow" just over Naruto's shoulder. Also, this is the only known chapter cover(at least to my knowledge) that has ever been repeated.

    Then there's the cover for Naruto Chapter 11, on this chapter cover we see a crow carrying a sword in it's beak and it appears to be presenting it to Naruto.

    Notice in the backgrounds of each cover is the full moon, a clear symbol of Itachi. Naruto Chapter 142 Cover, this is a cover of Itachi with the full moon in the bottom lefthand corner. Naruto chapter 145 page 10 and page 11.

    Also, one of the sources Itachi get's his name from is the Kamaitachi. The source of the name kamaitachi is kamaetachi, which means "attacking tachi". It was later changed to the name kamaitachi as a naming pun for "sickle weasel", by Toriyama Sekien. It's also of note that the kamaitachi itself is a wind demon. The Kamaitachi also makes an appearance in the Naruto series as one of Temari's summoning techniques.

    Well, there you have it. This is what I believe Itachi gave Naruto. Itachi gave Naruto a legendary sword named the Kogarasu Maru. The sword is most likely a chakra blade, which would allow Naruto to use his wind elemental affinity along with it to cut opponents at a distance.

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    wow ... this theory is awesome
    all the things about japanase mythologie
    i love it
    but theres one thing bothering me
    if the wraiths clues are right - the covers
    it means kishi has planned everything since the very beginning
    and that was 9 years ago
    if thats true i think he didnt thought his manga will be that great
    so it became longer and now the storys gonna show up

    because if you look at naruto manga its like the story begins now and not
    9 years ago
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    there is nothing that proves hes making things up as he goes, for all we know he has a master plot set, and he just add little things, but its very possible he has planned everything ever since he realized that it was that good...George lucus wrote the entire star plot before the first movie was released
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    Ive skipped a bunch of pages in this thread, so am not sure if it's been noticed yet.... probably has, knowing how deeply most of you seem to read between the lines.

    http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/000...0082131/05.jpg

    The little crow ("Kogarasu Maru"?) is chillin' on Naruto's shoulder as he soaks up the senjutsu chakra. I'd swear ive seen that little crow in another chapter aswell.

    I can't find the links that someone else provided (Wraith?) for pics of Naruto with lil' crows. I've found the two below though

    http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/000..._ch003_085.jpg
    http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/000..._ch011_071.jpg
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WOTG View Post
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but those are not crows.
    Pic 1 is just a random bird.
    Pic 2 is too cartoony to even determine.
    Pic 3 is actually a Hawk.
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    I think Itachi gave Naruto the ability to break a Tsukiomi made from Sasuke. I believe somewhere in the manga it said that only a brother of the user of Tsukiomi. If this is true then Kishi would still be following the lines that Sasuke is naruto's brother through their bonds.
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    lol isnt that the bird that always randomly flies across the sky...screaming IDIOT or sumthing like that.
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    Originally Posted by Dragon3443 View Post
    dude that would be awesome!!!

    your good
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    it's not something that will break tsukiomi cause *** we saw, kb used the hatchibi to break the tsukiomi, so if naruto uses the kuubi chakara he will rid himselfe of that problem. therfore, no it's not something that will break the tsukiomi

    OH MY OG I AM TURNINGI NTo renegade
    ...pshh o h well
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    I thought about the same that Itachi gave Naruto a sword but the one he used on Orochimaru when he traped him in a infinite genyutsu and he had a shield and Sasuke couldnt break trough it but i dont remember the name
    That sword is the best it is invisible and 1 hit you are gone
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Hello evryone........I liked the theory..Thanx Chakra-san to post dat theory...But when i was looking up one onemanga forums I came across this theory which seems better to me. Here is the link:-

    [Theory] Itachi's gift - Samjoko, three legged bird - OneManga.com Forums

    Please reply.............
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    nice dude......nice theroy....
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    wow nice find. lots of proof to back it up.

    it sure beats that theory about frogs doing genjutsu on naruto making him think they were itachi. LOL!!!!!!!

    I still don't really like the idea of Naruto getting a sword. reps for u man!
     
         
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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    but he was never tought to fight with a sword.he is noob in that!
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Nice theory, imagine Naruto with a sword..... LOL :D.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Dude... AWESOME theory with perfect sense ! Great indeed ! :P

    Regards o/
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Very well done. It's a well known fact that Kishi likes to forshadow things in cover pages.
    (an example is Kishi assosiating Naruto with frogs, Sasuke with snakes, and Sakura with slugs)
    I give props to you for finding it and whoever made it. It is very well done.
    Oh and something I noticed. Thrid pic down in your little additiion. (the one with Sasuke and Naruto fighting) you can see a little jug hanging from Sasuke's belt. A jug like the one Susannoo used to summon his sword?
     
         
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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Quote Originally Posted by konoha s beautiful beast View Post
    but he was never tought to fight with a sword.he is noob in that!
    He may be "noob" in that atm... But don't forget about Killer Bee! He's a master swordsman, and could train naruto in both swords and the ability to control the kyuubi. Could you imagine 9 tailed naruto with a mythical sword? After reading this, I don't think that the fact Killer Bee is a Swordsman was coincidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Revan View Post
    interesting theory, the only thing which is a bit strange is that kishi seemed to have thrown that idea away for a long time (all pics are with the young naruto) and now comes back to it.
    I don't believe he necessarily "threw the idea away", but gave us clues of his future intentions. Then after we've completely forgot about it, he brings the idea back. I believe that this theory is completely viable...

    As for needing something to counter Amaterasu, (going out on a limb here) maybe the sword can put it out somehow.
     
         
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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Cool , it may be this ... we will see
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Well there are some fillers in the anime (around ep 217) where some very special weapons make their appearce. Takumi is village and a clan which makes shinoby weapons for the other countries. In these fillers there are also the Fujaku Hishou Souken: Soaring Short Swords which amplify the users chakra. When i found later in the episodes that Naruto is a wind affinity guy i instantly thought that these would be perferct fot Naruto. But in the anime they are destroed in the end...I don't know about the manga but i thought i would share these facts with u...Also a kunai is like a dagger. Naruto won't have any problem learning to use a sword when he already knows how to use a kunai perfectly. Just my opinion though...
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    niiicee
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    naruto would cut himself if he used a sword ><
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    This is one of the best theories I have ever read. It's definitely possible.

    Props to the guy who made this, and to you for bring this amazing theory to us.

    Thank you.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Well i'm convinced. Even though you didn't come up with the theory, I'll give you *rep* for providing this information to us. I still wonder, how and when will he use this sword? It also makes sense for it to be a sword because he can do seriouse damage when combined with his wind attacks.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    We`ll just have to wait and see ^_^
     
         

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