[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 581 Discussion and 582 Predictions

[The God]

To the thick people trying to say Izanagi doesn't need both senju and uchiha dna

YES YOU BLOODY DO

It is stated in both Manga and Anime

So stop trying to pretend you do not need freaking Senju blood aswell you stupid fool

It is a power of the sage of the six paths because he had senju and uchiha blood, that where it originally came from

Konan vs Tobi, she clearly states that the power of the sage of the six paths and Tobi informs her you need both uchiha and senju dna to be ABLE TO USE Izanagi


So for the idiotic trolls that keep saying you don't need both dna

YES YOU DO AND I've just proven it.

Thank you i think hes jus saying it to annoy me

[MrMax2012]

Thank you i think hes jus saying it to annoy me

I think he is, the idiot succeeded with annoying me with his stupid embarrassing comments, his only making himself look more and more of a complete tool.

[The God]

and it probably would work on most senju as it worked for pain who is an uzamaki and of close relations to the senju just throwing that out there!!

(Im talkin about gathering senju blood and uchiha blood and getting sage powers for people saying it only relates to hashirama not the rest of the senju this is not the case as it also works on uzamakis seen with pain who was a known as the 3rd coming of the sage)

[Yoshi Hoshi]

Sasuke-kun really cute in his childhood flashback...nice chapter..

[alexu9696]

for izanagi you need hashirama dna..... but for izanami i dont think so ..

[iknowwhotobiis]

SOOO itachi has hashi DNA k bros!

[The God]

no1 knows if u need it for izanami though..

[gotacigo]

The translations leave out context and details which help define the context. A perfect example is the fight with Konan.

Konan: 'You can only remain intangible for 5 minutes at a time.'

Tobi: 'Almost all of these are explosive tags!!'

Konan: 'I prepared all of these, all six billion explosive tags, to kill you! Enough for 10 minutes of nonstop explosions!'

Right there they are setting up the context by which the next discussion will take place. 10 minutes of explosions later....

Konan: 'Madara must be....'

Tobi: 'Dead?'

Konan: 'How? You should be dead. I went over this plan, did countless simulations, it should have worked, it should have killed you'

Right here Konan is asking why 10 minutes of explosions didn't kill him when he could only go intangible for 5 minutes, tops. So the context of the discussion is in regards to the other 5 minutes. How was he able to survive for 10 minutes when he should have been dead after 5?

Tobi: 'Izanagi. The forbidden Uchiha technique that has the power to connect illusion and reality, at the cost of the eye losing the light, permanently.'

Right there Tobi states that the reason why he didn't die after 5 minutes and his intangibility ran out, was because for the other 5 minutes, he used Izanagi. BUT WAIT!!! We know that Izanagi doesn't last for 5 minutes!

So how the hell did he make it last for 5 minutes?

Tobi: 'A technique that can only be used by someone, who possesses both the powers of the Uchiha and the senju.'

Notice how he doesn't say DNA? Notice that he only says 'powers?' The context of this statement is under the scrutiny of 'how does Izanagi, a technique that lasts for a few seconds, last for 5 minutes?' The answer is 'by having both the powers of the Senju and the Uchiha.

BUT WAIT!!!!! Does that mean I can just take the DNA of any old Senju? NOPE. It's also a context thing to know that he's actually referring to Hashirama Senju, and not just any old Senju.

BUT THE PEOPLE TRANSLATING THE MANGA/ANIME TO ENGLISH DON'T INCLUDE ANY OF THIS STUFF. It's contextual, assumed that the reader knows this stuff by just putting the conversations into the context of the story.


So my question for you is this:

- If the manga and the anime are so infallible, how is it that Tobi stated Izanagi was an UCHIHA technique? If it requires Senju DNA, it would be a Senju technique, would it not?

- How is it that chapter 575 was so butchered in it's translation?

- I'm fine knowing that people make mistakes, especially these people who are doing FAN SUBS AND TRANSLATIONS. I'm a smart enough individual to understand what's really going on, even if the context and details are being left out.

- Also, you know that Naruto says 'Dattebayo' after everything he says. You can hear it in the anime. How come every sentence that's translated and subbed in the anime doesn't include 'you better believe it?'

BECAUSE THEY MISTRANSLATE THINGS ACCIDENTALLY/ON PURPOSE.


You're a ****ing idiot if you think you're getting the entire accurate story from these fan translations. And you can take your 'Imma God' complex and shove it in your ass.


PCE NERD

Tobi didnt have to use izanagi for 5 minutes...
he just needed it for a shor period, when he solidified himself for a moment, and then he could be intangible for other 5 minutes...thats all

[gotacigo]

somebody please.
i can not find the page, where its written, that for izanagi is needed senju, and uchiha powers...
would you post that page for me?
thanks

[chakrawizard555]

somebody please.
i can not find the page, where its written, that for izanagi is needed senju, and uchiha powers...
would you post that page for me?
thanks

This should be it:

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/510/10

[QuickSilver2388]

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/577/6

i think that he was only implying in jest saying madara could not really rise from the dead there for he could not teach the first to rise from the dead

[Nicksterz]

3 stars..
I'm tired of this fight already. Itachi wins using HAX ability, Sasuke gets more emo, blah blah. Hey. Kishi. lets go back to Epic fights like the Kage and Madara, or, idk call me crazy but NARUTO. Lets stop hunting for rapist snakes and go kick so Madara/Tobi ass.

[baah]

why would danzo risk his life controlling hashirama's power?... because he needs it to perform izanagi....

[baah]

i guess in the next chapter...... we will see the kages getting owned by madara.... before the final blow/s is struck.... itachi's izanami forces kabuto to release edo... itachi says everything he needs to say.... and then his soul is sucked back to the dead realm.... kabuto is not yet dead and have another trick on his sleeves..... but sasuke having no reason to hold back his power... finally kills kabuto using amaterasu magatamas.......

[GIVEUPONME]

hi ppl, this is my first post im new here.
i rated this chapter 5, it was just AWESOME!!!
cant wait for the next chap, it will be in couple of hours!!!
and i dont see why r u ppl arguing about uchiha and senju DNA, u just wait and see what happens in the manga.

[Biju Hunter]

I can't w8 to read the next chapter :D