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    Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    Naruto 439 page 08 | One Manga

    Now from my understanding of chakra, and jutsus, the person has to be alive for the jutsu to continue its actual effect am i correct?
    The only example i can think of right now is filler with that chick looking after that 3 tail kid thing, whatever the names are, she said that crystallised flower will break if she dies, ergo, the jutsu ceases to be in death.

    Im pretty sure death nullifies a jutsu (though the 4th showed thats not always true, thats thats a seal...so it is different)

    Well if the sage of siz paths created the moon, and the moon is in fact still there as we can see, does this mean the sage of six paths (not pain, the original sage) is still alive?

    While there is no actual proof, i would love if tobis existence was backward to what weve been guessing.

    we keep guessing madara is using bodies.

    Nobody guessed someones using madaras body, we always assumed madara is the one in control.

    Maybe, and this is pure speculation, i just think itd be cool, considering the sage of six paths knows every jutsu, he must know orochimarus jutsu, maybe the sage has been taking over bodies of great power, e.g. madaras (tobis), and the reason he wears a mask is because his other eye has the rinnegan.

    This may also explain how madara can rule over nagato/pain.


    Another thing i noticed is this, and 9tails fans wont be pleased.

    Naruto 439 page 17 | One Manga

    Through this i dont think naruto will ever fully control the 9tails, it appears minato will never allow more than 8 tails, and he appears on the 8th tail too, so 7 may be the likely number, minatos talking to the fox also shows he detests it.

    Though there is one thing that must be discussed........Is minato dead?

    The coffin didnt work for orochimaru against the 3rd, and we all know that orochimarus technique for immortal life is to put his conscious into people, maybe minato gave his soul away to the demon god to seal the fox, but at the same time sealed his mental capacity into narutos conciousness, in other words, minato literally lives in naruto, like orochimaru would have lived in sasuke.

    I reckon the 4th may still be alive.

    Please remember when orochimaru wanted to become 4th hokage, minato challenged him, either orochimaru lost or orochimaru decided against fighting him.

    We know orochimarus character, hes sickly displeased of itachi being stronger than he waaaay back in the series and he shows no backing off against 4tails or any opponent, so for him to fear the 4th, thats a lot, i think the 4th had many more tricks up his sleeve than rasengan and FTG and that sealing demon, he mustve had way more techniques, this is the man who surpassed jiraiya, the 3rd, orochimaru, pretty near every shinobi we know, and without cheap eye techniques.

    I hope minato is alive, thatd be so freakin awesome
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    I dont think he is alive he said that him self that he would apear when the tails reach to 8 or 9
    And about Madara having 1 rinegan and 1 Sharingan thats imposible
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    Just because he appears only at 8 tails doesnt mean hes dead, i just reckon minato lives in narutos body as a mentality only, please do remember this is also true with orochimaru, he stated he transfers everything into the bodies mind, and acts as a parasite and takes over there actions.

    well guess what, minato appeared and took over narutos actions and stopped him from ripping the seal off.

    I see no difference between orochimarus transfer and the possibility of minatos transfer to naruto.

    Why is madara/tobi having 1 sharingan 1 rinnegan impossible?

    I agree it is highly unlikely as what i mentioed was just pure speculation and what would be cool.

    But to say impossible is a little ignorant to say the least
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    minato is not alive he died performing the sealing jutsu on nine tails
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by caseygaming View Post
    minato is not alive he died performing the sealing jutsu on nine tails
    YEAH that true, he only shows up because the kyubii turns to 8 tails,,
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by caseygaming View Post
    minato is not alive he died performing the sealing jutsu on nine tails
    its called reaper death seal
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ebony Death View Post
    its called reaper death seal
    ohrite well i never new what the seal is called as it doen't have any real information about

    that
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    I like it! i think it's possible. how else would the Minato in Naruto's consciousness have any memories or knowledge to pass on to Naruto? I guess we'll wait to see. If the image of Minato is able to react to it's environment then there must be some intelligence to it and to me that would mean that there's at least a sliver of Minato's consciousness within Naruto. If it were just a recorded message type of thing then it would just say and do the same thing over and over again.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    minato is not alive
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    I don't think Minato in Naruto's consciousness is similar to that of Oro living in Sasuke. Oro wanted complete control of Sasuke's body. And we can see in Kabuto, Oro is taking over his body. That is not the case with Naruto.

    I think when it comes to seals, whether the maker of the seal is alive or dead has no effect. When written on paper and infused with chakra to make a seal, I think the jutsu will remain to exist. You're relating seals to jutsu, and I don't think they're the same. I think a seal is a way for a jutsu to be stored, like a file on a USB storage device.

    As for the 4th's coffin not summoning, Sarutobi wouldn't have been afraid for it to come up and try with all his might to stop the 4th's coffin from coming up if he didn't think Minato was dead. Sarutobi of all people in Konoha would have ordered people to put Minato's body in the coffin and bury him.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    i like how ur thinking outside the box here twistedlink. the whole madara thing you brought up, although i too kinda think its unlikely, but its very different from anything we've thought up of til now. the ONLY reason we all assume that madara is transferring bodies is because we know that its something thats possible in the naruto universe. i mean, before orochimaru introduced us to that concept, i think we would have thought that was rediculous, and that it would give one character too much power or something like that. i do wonder what exactly makes a washed up uchiha more dominant than a rinnegan user. we'll just have to wait and see.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    WOW... what a kick ass thread... Very intelligent on all your views...

    We all know the 4th Dead by sealing the Kyuubi into Naruto... But that dose not mean that when he created his seal on/in Naruto... that he could have fused part of his life energy + chakra to create a barrier type of effect... so if ever the 8tials of the Kyuubi was ever released he would indeed appear as an image in Naruto’s consciousness to help stop Naruto from being overwhelmed... WOW what a father...


    Also jutsu don’t dispel after death... Sasuke and Itachi... how Itachi made a barrier with Amaterasu to attack Madara at first sight of his Sharingan... but maybe these aren’t normal Jutsu’s but Sealing/ barrier like jutsus where a certain part of your chakra is sealed in someone to be trigged by an event... even after death... same thing as Brother ssanimo said about the 3rd and Orochimarus Arms... which was also sealed.

    NORMAL JUTSU (non sealing and barrier Jutsu) will dispel as soon as the creator is dead or out of chakra... which is the same thing...


    What this all means is that Kakashi will be the Next White Fang of Kohona after he and his dad have there chat and the White Fang will releases his seal in Kakashi to make him the new White fang... MUHhahahahahahahhahahaaa

    Self promotion; Read I’m fanfic to learn more....:D:D:D:D but not this overpowered...


    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...hite-fang.html

    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...hite-fang.html


    Also I cant come around the fact Naruto might not be able to master the kyuubis Chakra... if you know me you will know this is a big thing for me...



    Truly an awesome thread cant remember when last my post was this long...


     
         
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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by platinum69 View Post
    WOW... what a kick ass thread... Very intelligent on all your views...

    We all know the 4th Dead by sealing the Kyuubi into Naruto... But that dose not mean that when he created his seal on/in Naruto... that he could have fused part of his life energy + chakra to create a barrier type of effect... so if ever the 8tials of the Kyuubi was ever released he would indeed appear as an image in Naruto’s consciousness to help stop Naruto from being overwhelmed... WOW what a father...


    Also jutsu don’t dispel after death... Sasuke and Itachi... how Itachi made a barrier with Amaterasu to attack Madara at first sight of his Sharingan... but maybe these aren’t normal Jutsu’s but Sealing/ barrier like jutsus where a certain part of your chakra is sealed in someone to be trigged by an event... even after death... same thing as Brother ssanimo said about the 3rd and Orochimarus Arms... which was also sealed.

    NORMAL JUTSU (non sealing and barrier Jutsu) will dispel as soon as the creator is dead or out of chakra... which is the same thing...


    What this all means is that Kakashi will be the Next White Fang of Kohona after he and his dad have there chat and the White Fang will releases his seal in Kakashi to make him the new White fang... MUHhahahahahahahhahahaaa

    Self promotion; Read I’m fanfic to learn more....:D:D:D:D but not this overpowered...


    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...hite-fang.html

    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...hite-fang.html


    Also I cant come around the fact Naruto might not be able to master the kyuubis Chakra... if you know me you will know this is a big thing for me...



    Truly an awesome thread cant remember when last my post was this long...


    Very True bro; Now we know that Naruto has not 1 but 2 residents living inside him, The Kyuubi, and the Yondaime when the 8 tails come out.

    This all means that Naruto can Never go 9 tails; The Yondaime will always be there to stop him.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    Naruto 439 page 08 | One Manga

    Now from my understanding of chakra, and jutsus, the person has to be alive for the jutsu to continue its actual effect am i correct?
    The only example i can think of right now is filler with that chick looking after that 3 tail kid thing, whatever the names are, she said that crystallised flower will break if she dies, ergo, the jutsu ceases to be in death.

    Im pretty sure death nullifies a jutsu (though the 4th showed thats not always true, thats thats a seal...so it is different)

    Well if the sage of siz paths created the moon, and the moon is in fact still there as we can see, does this mean the sage of six paths (not pain, the original sage) is still alive?

    While there is no actual proof, i would love if tobis existence was backward to what weve been guessing.

    we keep guessing madara is using bodies.

    Nobody guessed someones using madaras body, we always assumed madara is the one in control.

    Maybe, and this is pure speculation, i just think itd be cool, considering the sage of six paths knows every jutsu, he must know orochimarus jutsu, maybe the sage has been taking over bodies of great power, e.g. madaras (tobis), and the reason he wears a mask is because his other eye has the rinnegan.

    This may also explain how madara can rule over nagato/pain.


    Another thing i noticed is this, and 9tails fans wont be pleased.

    Naruto 439 page 17 | One Manga

    Through this i dont think naruto will ever fully control the 9tails, it appears minato will never allow more than 8 tails, and he appears on the 8th tail too, so 7 may be the likely number, minatos talking to the fox also shows he detests it.

    Though there is one thing that must be discussed........Is minato dead?

    The coffin didnt work for orochimaru against the 3rd, and we all know that orochimarus technique for immortal life is to put his conscious into people, maybe minato gave his soul away to the demon god to seal the fox, but at the same time sealed his mental capacity into narutos conciousness, in other words, minato literally lives in naruto, like orochimaru would have lived in sasuke.

    I reckon the 4th may still be alive.

    Please remember when orochimaru wanted to become 4th hokage, minato challenged him, either orochimaru lost or orochimaru decided against fighting him.

    We know orochimarus character, hes sickly displeased of itachi being stronger than he waaaay back in the series and he shows no backing off against 4tails or any opponent, so for him to fear the 4th, thats a lot, i think the 4th had many more tricks up his sleeve than rasengan and FTG and that sealing demon, he mustve had way more techniques, this is the man who surpassed jiraiya, the 3rd, orochimaru, pretty near every shinobi we know, and without cheap eye techniques.

    I hope minato is alive, thatd be so freakin awesome
    This is not necessary!!!!!!1st hokage created forst around konoha with his wood jutsu................1st is dead. So konoha should have become desert. But it is not........4th knowing more jutsu.......Come one he was a hokage...Isn't it said in manga hokage knows thousands of jutsus..............So 4th must have other techciques.........
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ4Naruto View Post
    This is not necessary!!!!!!1st hokage created forst around konoha with his wood jutsu................1st is dead. So konoha should have become desert. But it is not........4th knowing more jutsu.......Come one he was a hokage...Isn't it said in manga hokage knows thousands of jutsus..............So 4th must have other techciques.........
    SUp bro?

    What I think is when you use an element chakra which is alive like trees are... then your just giving life to them using your own chakra... and then they grow on there own will and energy... as trees (wood) a alive they breath, mate and so on... so well after the creator is dead Im sure they still will be able to grow and reproduce at there own will...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    Naruto 439 page 08 | One Manga

    Now from my understanding of chakra, and jutsus, the person has to be alive for the jutsu to continue its actual effect am i correct?
    The only example i can think of right now is filler with that chick looking after that 3 tail kid thing, whatever the names are, she said that crystallised flower will break if she dies, ergo, the jutsu ceases to be in death.

    Im pretty sure death nullifies a jutsu (though the 4th showed thats not always true, thats thats a seal...so it is different)

    Well if the sage of siz paths created the moon, and the moon is in fact still there as we can see, does this mean the sage of six paths (not pain, the original sage) is still alive?

    While there is no actual proof, i would love if tobis existence was backward to what weve been guessing.

    we keep guessing madara is using bodies.

    Nobody guessed someones using madaras body, we always assumed madara is the one in control.

    Maybe, and this is pure speculation, i just think itd be cool, considering the sage of six paths knows every jutsu, he must know orochimarus jutsu, maybe the sage has been taking over bodies of great power, e.g. madaras (tobis), and the reason he wears a mask is because his other eye has the rinnegan.

    This may also explain how madara can rule over nagato/pain.


    Another thing i noticed is this, and 9tails fans wont be pleased.

    Naruto 439 page 17 | One Manga

    Through this i dont think naruto will ever fully control the 9tails, it appears minato will never allow more than 8 tails, and he appears on the 8th tail too, so 7 may be the likely number, minatos talking to the fox also shows he detests it.

    Though there is one thing that must be discussed........Is minato dead?

    The coffin didnt work for orochimaru against the 3rd, and we all know that orochimarus technique for immortal life is to put his conscious into people, maybe minato gave his soul away to the demon god to seal the fox, but at the same time sealed his mental capacity into narutos conciousness, in other words, minato literally lives in naruto, like orochimaru would have lived in sasuke.

    I reckon the 4th may still be alive.

    Please remember when orochimaru wanted to become 4th hokage, minato challenged him, either orochimaru lost or orochimaru decided against fighting him.

    We know orochimarus character, hes sickly displeased of itachi being stronger than he waaaay back in the series and he shows no backing off against 4tails or any opponent, so for him to fear the 4th, thats a lot, i think the 4th had many more tricks up his sleeve than rasengan and FTG and that sealing demon, he mustve had way more techniques, this is the man who surpassed jiraiya, the 3rd, orochimaru, pretty near every shinobi we know, and without cheap eye techniques.

    I hope minato is alive, thatd be so freakin awesome
    ii dont think he is quite dead yet alive either he mite have a part of him to remain in naruto as a sub conquience to stop the seal breaking
     
         

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    Re: Naruto 339, some things i noticed, minato alive?

    dead vato
     
         

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